absolute beginner: help request about drum machine

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by red3718, Aug 21, 2003.

  1. red3718

    red3718 Guest

    First of all I must apologize for the fact that I am an absolute
    neewbie in the field of drum machines or percussion. But asking for
    suggestions to shopdealers is very difficult as often they just want
    to sell you, mainly if they understand you are not an expert (and for
    sure I am not) what they have in store, and possibly outdated and
    difficult to sell to informed customers.

    I am a good level amateur piano player. My major interest is classical
    and jazz music. However, given the fact that music is a pleasure to do
    togheter, sometimes we organize some shows between friends where I
    play the piano and somebody sings. We mainly feature standards, pop
    hits and some bossanova. The quality is not pristine, but we have a
    lot of fun and I do believe this is the most important part of the
    music together. Very often we use just the piano but for some songs a
    drum background is needed. During the years I used firstly an old Korg
    drum machine (I can't recall now the model bit it is the one with a
    lot of coloured buttons on the front) and then a Roland CR-80 that
    recently died after many years of good work. I must say that the
    latter did a good job, as the preset patterns were good and this
    machine was really user friendly.

    As it is impossible to fix I need a new drum machine. I obviously will
    choose with my ears but I have no idea where to start from. What would
    you suggest to begin with considering that I absolutely do not know
    how to program a drum pattern (and I do not have time to learn it!)?

    Furthermore, I have a very powerful laptop computer (that I use for my
    work). Is there a software I could use for turning it into a drum
    machine?

    I really look forward for your suggestions. Please excuse me once
    again for my very naive question.

    I apologize for intruding with such a low level problem but I really
    see no other place where to ask....

    Thank you in advance

    Giorgio
  2. Hairy Pants

    Hairy Pants Guest

    Have a look at Cakewalk Home Studio;

    http://www.cakewalk.com/homemusicians.asp

    and Steinburg Cubase;

    http://www.steinberg.net/products/cubasevst24pc.html

    These are very excellent PC programs that let you create all kinds of music
    (including percussion). You can plug in midi devices and use that to create
    realtime music on a staff. It's alot of fun.

    I prefer Cakewalk myself, but it is a bit daunting to get into, there are a
    million and one buttons. The tutorial is very informative.

    In terms of drum machines, Roland's TD-10 is one of the best, but there are
    many other companies. I owned a Yamaha DTX-2 before and thought it was
    pretty cool. I hear DDRUM is pretty nice as well.

    Doug.

    "red3718" <red3718@jumpy.it> wrote in message
    news:3e37ec12.0308210949.52c932da@posting.google.com...
    > First of all I must apologize for the fact that I am an absolute
    > neewbie in the field of drum machines or percussion. But asking for
    > suggestions to shopdealers is very difficult as often they just want
    > to sell you, mainly if they understand you are not an expert (and for
    > sure I am not) what they have in store, and possibly outdated and
    > difficult to sell to informed customers.
    >
    > I am a good level amateur piano player. My major interest is classical
    > and jazz music. However, given the fact that music is a pleasure to do
    > togheter, sometimes we organize some shows between friends where I
    > play the piano and somebody sings. We mainly feature standards, pop
    > hits and some bossanova. The quality is not pristine, but we have a
    > lot of fun and I do believe this is the most important part of the
    > music together. Very often we use just the piano but for some songs a
    > drum background is needed. During the years I used firstly an old Korg
    > drum machine (I can't recall now the model bit it is the one with a
    > lot of coloured buttons on the front) and then a Roland CR-80 that
    > recently died after many years of good work. I must say that the
    > latter did a good job, as the preset patterns were good and this
    > machine was really user friendly.
    >
    > As it is impossible to fix I need a new drum machine. I obviously will
    > choose with my ears but I have no idea where to start from. What would
    > you suggest to begin with considering that I absolutely do not know
    > how to program a drum pattern (and I do not have time to learn it!)?
    >
    > Furthermore, I have a very powerful laptop computer (that I use for my
    > work). Is there a software I could use for turning it into a drum
    > machine?
    >
    > I really look forward for your suggestions. Please excuse me once
    > again for my very naive question.
    >
    > I apologize for intruding with such a low level problem but I really
    > see no other place where to ask....
    >
    > Thank you in advance
    >
    > Giorgio
  3. Have a look at the Boss Dr-670 (or machines of a similar ilk)
    Very easy to program new beats/patterns into, and includes drums, percussion
    and bass voices. It also comes with 199(?) preset drum and bass patterns (of
    which you can choose to mute either voice on playback, as well as do the
    usual like set tempo, time sig etc). There are an additional 101 spaces to
    program your own patterns as well as play additional drum/bass voices over
    the pattern upon playback. So you can end up with something simple, or
    something complex - it's nice and flexible that way. I think Boss were
    trying to sell this as a unit for use with musicians and songwriters who
    want a drum machine backing. Have a look and see if it's what you're after.
    Hope this helps,
    Jon

    "red3718" <red3718@jumpy.it> wrote in message
    news:3e37ec12.0308210949.52c932da@posting.google.com...
    > First of all I must apologize for the fact that I am an absolute
    > neewbie in the field of drum machines or percussion. But asking for
    > suggestions to shopdealers is very difficult as often they just want
    > to sell you, mainly if they understand you are not an expert (and for
    > sure I am not) what they have in store, and possibly outdated and
    > difficult to sell to informed customers.
    >
    > I am a good level amateur piano player. My major interest is classical
    > and jazz music. However, given the fact that music is a pleasure to do
    > togheter, sometimes we organize some shows between friends where I
    > play the piano and somebody sings. We mainly feature standards, pop
    > hits and some bossanova. The quality is not pristine, but we have a
    > lot of fun and I do believe this is the most important part of the
    > music together. Very often we use just the piano but for some songs a
    > drum background is needed. During the years I used firstly an old Korg
    > drum machine (I can't recall now the model bit it is the one with a
    > lot of coloured buttons on the front) and then a Roland CR-80 that
    > recently died after many years of good work. I must say that the
    > latter did a good job, as the preset patterns were good and this
    > machine was really user friendly.
    >
    > As it is impossible to fix I need a new drum machine. I obviously will
    > choose with my ears but I have no idea where to start from. What would
    > you suggest to begin with considering that I absolutely do not know
    > how to program a drum pattern (and I do not have time to learn it!)?
    >
    > Furthermore, I have a very powerful laptop computer (that I use for my
    > work). Is there a software I could use for turning it into a drum
    > machine?
    >
    > I really look forward for your suggestions. Please excuse me once
    > again for my very naive question.
    >
    > I apologize for intruding with such a low level problem but I really
    > see no other place where to ask....
    >
    > Thank you in advance
    >
    > Giorgio
  4. pottedmeat42

    pottedmeat42 Guest

    > lot of fun and I do believe this is the most important part of the
    > music together. Very often we use just the piano but for some songs a
    > drum background is needed.


    Have you tried Homo sapiens? Not as reliable, accurate, consistent,
    submissive, predictible or portable as a drum machine, but a lot more
    fun.

    Jason
  5. red3718

    red3718 Guest

    pottedmeat42@yahoo.com (pottedmeat42) wrote in message news:<17470c7a.0308220614.1ef413b1@posting.google.com>...
    > > lot of fun and I do believe this is the most important part of the
    > > music together. Very often we use just the piano but for some songs a
    > > drum background is needed.

    >
    > Have you tried Homo sapiens? Not as reliable, accurate, consistent,
    > submissive, predictible or portable as a drum machine, but a lot more
    > fun.
    >
    > Jason


    Homo sapiens is by far the best drum machine, as it is the only one
    featured with the "drink together" function that I find the most
    attracting one expecially in a party, particularly if the drummer is
    of the opposite sex.

    But unfortunately if you do not have it available (to rent a
    functioning one is very expensive and not always easy) the only
    alternatives you have are or not to play or a drum machine of the
    electronic type. I like better the drum machine.

    Thanks for your precious help. I never had such an original idea.

    G.

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