Alternative to Cool Edit 2000

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by Blaktop, Aug 31, 2003.

  1. Blaktop

    Blaktop Guest

    My question is......does anyone know of a cheap program that does what
    Cool Edit 2000 does. I have downloaded 6 shareware audio editors from
    Tucows and tried them all out but none of them seem to come close to
    CE2000 in the editing and ease of use department. There are hundreds
    of rippers, converters, all-in-one suites etc etc out there but
    ripping/converting/burning is what they are about. Effects seem to be
    just added in as an after-thought. What I want is a program I can do
    simple stuff like adjust the playback level of each channel and add
    some subtle reverb and EQ effects to some .wav files I have. This is
    not studio production work, just touching up a few songs that my band
    did a few years back and I certainly don't want to spend $500 AUD to
    do it.

    I have had Cool Edit on my system for some time but haven't had time
    to play with it. I downloaded the shareware version from Tucows as it
    was rated as the best entry level audio editor. After playing around
    with one of my band .wav files I decided it could do what I needed it
    to do so I would purchase the full version for US$65. However when I
    clicked the registration button I was taken to Adobe's website.
    Apparently in May Adobe bought Syntrillium and have released Cool Edit
    2.0 rebranded as Adobe Audition and you can buy it for
    US$299.......sheesh! If you own Cool Edit 2000 you can purchase an
    upgrade to Audition for US$99, but you can't register Cool Edit 2000
    any more.
  2. Neil Gould

    Neil Gould Guest

    Recently, Blaktop <paul@chiefontour.com> posted:

    > My question is......does anyone know of a cheap program that does what
    > Cool Edit 2000 does. I have downloaded 6 shareware audio editors from
    > Tucows and tried them all out but none of them seem to come close to
    > CE2000 in the editing and ease of use department. There are hundreds
    > of rippers, converters, all-in-one suites etc etc out there but
    > ripping/converting/burning is what they are about. Effects seem to be
    > just added in as an after-thought. What I want is a program I can do
    > simple stuff like adjust the playback level of each channel and add
    > some subtle reverb and EQ effects to some .wav files I have. This is
    > not studio production work, just touching up a few songs that my band
    > did a few years back and I certainly don't want to spend $500 AUD to
    > do it.
    >
    > I have had Cool Edit on my system for some time but haven't had time
    > to play with it. I downloaded the shareware version from Tucows as it
    > was rated as the best entry level audio editor. After playing around
    > with one of my band .wav files I decided it could do what I needed it
    > to do so I would purchase the full version for US$65. However when I
    > clicked the registration button I was taken to Adobe's website.
    > Apparently in May Adobe bought Syntrillium and have released Cool Edit
    > 2.0 rebranded as Adobe Audition and you can buy it for
    > US$299.......sheesh! If you own Cool Edit 2000 you can purchase an
    > upgrade to Audition for US$99, but you can't register Cool Edit 2000
    > any more.
    >

    Unfortunately, it seems that CE 2000 is in limbo, at best. I don't think
    Adobe sees a lot of value in that program, and is thus offering upgrades
    to CE Pro for current users at a good price. But, I suspect that there are
    many folks for whom CE Pro is significant overkill, no matter how great it
    may be otherwise.

    I'd suggest that you leave a message on Adobe's audition board begging for
    the continuance of CE 2000. Perhaps they will see the light after a while.
    In the meantime, perhaps you can pick up a registered copy from someone
    who is no longer in need of it.

    Neil
  3. On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 01:31:13 GMT, "Neil Gould" <neil@terratu.com>
    wrote:

    >Unfortunately, it seems that CE 2000 is in limbo, at best. I don't think
    >Adobe sees a lot of value in that program, and is thus offering upgrades
    >to CE Pro for current users at a good price. But, I suspect that there are
    >many folks for whom CE Pro is significant overkill, no matter how great it
    >may be otherwise.


    CE2000 was *the* de-facto industry standard affordable audio editor;
    easily the market leader by a long way. Adobe axing it seems like a
    pretty daft thing to do.

    People who would have bought CE2000 are not going to buy Audition
    instead; they'll go somewhere like GoldWave, Sound Forge XP, or some
    other affordable editor I've not yet discovered. Adobe's bean counters
    would do well to reflect on this.
  4. Arny Krueger

    Arny Krueger Guest

    "Clive Backham" <clive@capita.nildram.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:3f52fe2d.2148649@news.nildram.co.uk

    > On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 01:31:13 GMT, "Neil Gould" <neil@terratu.com>
    > wrote:


    >> Unfortunately, it seems that CE 2000 is in limbo, at best. I don't
    >> think Adobe sees a lot of value in that program, and is thus
    >> offering upgrades to CE Pro for current users at a good price. But,
    >> I suspect that there are many folks for whom CE Pro is significant
    >> overkill, no matter how great it may be otherwise.


    > CE2000 was *the* de-facto industry standard affordable audio editor;
    > easily the market leader by a long way. Adobe axing it seems like a
    > pretty daft thing to do.


    It seems like there should be an "Audition LT" or somthing like it in the
    future.

    Marketing wisdom is generally that if you are going to come out with a low
    end product and a high end product in a produce line, you come out with the
    high end product first, if you can.

    > People who would have bought CE2000 are not going to buy Audition
    > instead; they'll go somewhere like GoldWave, Sound Forge XP, or some
    > other affordable editor I've not yet discovered. Adobe's bean counters
    > would do well to reflect on this.


    They seem to have figured this out, elsewhere in their product line.
  5. vaathe

    vaathe Guest

    "Neil Gould" <neil@terratu.com> wrote in message news:<Bjx4b.13486$Om1.4657@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
    > Recently, Blaktop <paul@chiefontour.com> posted:
    >
    > > My question is......does anyone know of a cheap program that does what
    > > Cool Edit 2000 does. I have downloaded 6 shareware audio editors from
    > > Tucows and tried them all out but none of them seem to come close to
    > > CE2000 in the editing and ease of use department. There are hundreds
    > > of rippers, converters, all-in-one suites etc etc out there but
    > > ripping/converting/burning is what they are about. Effects seem to be
    > > just added in as an after-thought. What I want is a program I can do
    > > simple stuff like adjust the playback level of each channel and add
    > > some subtle reverb and EQ effects to some .wav files I have. This is
    > > not studio production work, just touching up a few songs that my band
    > > did a few years back and I certainly don't want to spend $500 AUD to
    > > do it.
    > >
    > > I have had Cool Edit on my system for some time but haven't had time
    > > to play with it. I downloaded the shareware version from Tucows as it
    > > was rated as the best entry level audio editor. After playing around
    > > with one of my band .wav files I decided it could do what I needed it
    > > to do so I would purchase the full version for US$65. However when I
    > > clicked the registration button I was taken to Adobe's website.
    > > Apparently in May Adobe bought Syntrillium and have released Cool Edit
    > > 2.0 rebranded as Adobe Audition and you can buy it for
    > > US$299.......sheesh! If you own Cool Edit 2000 you can purchase an
    > > upgrade to Audition for US$99, but you can't register Cool Edit 2000
    > > any more.
    > >

    > Unfortunately, it seems that CE 2000 is in limbo, at best. I don't think
    > Adobe sees a lot of value in that program, and is thus offering upgrades
    > to CE Pro for current users at a good price. But, I suspect that there are
    > many folks for whom CE Pro is significant overkill, no matter how great it
    > may be otherwise.
    >
    > I'd suggest that you leave a message on Adobe's audition board begging for
    > the continuance of CE 2000. Perhaps they will see the light after a while.
    > In the meantime, perhaps you can pick up a registered copy from someone
    > who is no longer in need of it.
    >
    > Neil


    http://audacity.sourceforge.net/index.php?lang=en
  6. Arny Krueger

    Arny Krueger Guest

  7. "Blaktop" <paul@chiefontour.com> wrote in message
    news:aa3115d7.0308311429.3ad84506@posting.google.com...
    > My question is......does anyone know of a cheap program that does what
    > Cool Edit 2000 does. I have downloaded 6 shareware audio editors from
    > Tucows and tried them all out but none of them seem to come close to
    > CE2000 in the editing and ease of use department. There are hundreds
    > of rippers, converters, all-in-one suites etc etc out there but
    > ripping/converting/burning is what they are about. Effects seem to be
    > just added in as an after-thought. What I want is a program I can do
    > simple stuff like adjust the playback level of each channel and add
    > some subtle reverb and EQ effects to some .wav files I have. This is
    > not studio production work, just touching up a few songs that my band
    > did a few years back and I certainly don't want to spend $500 AUD to
    > do it.


    You could try Sound Forge Studio which is a lite version of Sound Forge.
    Should be able to dowload for about $US69 odd or a little over $AUD100 from
    the Sonic Foundry web site.

    http://www.sonicfoundry.com/products/showproduct.asp?PID=718
  8. Mike Rivers

    Mike Rivers Guest

    In article <3f52fe2d.2148649@news.nildram.co.uk> clive@capita.nildram.co.uk writes:

    > CE2000 was *the* de-facto industry standard affordable audio editor;
    > easily the market leader by a long way. Adobe axing it seems like a
    > pretty daft thing to do.


    This is the real world.

    There are a small number of people who are only interested in editing
    stereo audio. There are millions of people interested in editing audio
    and video together, but they didn't know where to get such programs
    until presented with one by a mainstream company in "their" world.

    If you had to staff up tech support for a whole parcel of nearly
    computer-ignorant new users, would you have the money to support
    another product too? It happens.

    > People who would have bought CE2000 are not going to buy Audition
    > instead; they'll go somewhere like GoldWave, Sound Forge XP, or some
    > other affordable editor I've not yet discovered.


    The thing is that Adobe makes it easy for people to discover their
    products. You need to look in special places to find GoldWave, Sound
    Forge, and the other editors that you haven't yet discovered (like my
    favorite, Fast Edit).



    --
    I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
  9. Allen RENY

    Allen RENY Guest

    "Blaktop" <paul@chiefontour.com> wrote in message
    news:aa3115d7.0308311429.3ad84506@posting.google.com...
    > My question is......does anyone know of a cheap program that does what
    > Cool Edit 2000 does. I have downloaded 6 shareware audio editors from
    > Tucows and tried them all out but none of them seem to come close to
    > CE2000 in the editing and ease of use department. There are hundreds
    > of rippers, converters, all-in-one suites etc etc out there but
    > ripping/converting/burning is what they are about. Effects seem to be
    > just added in as an after-thought. What I want is a program I can do
    > simple stuff like adjust the playback level of each channel and add
    > some subtle reverb and EQ effects to some .wav files I have. This is
    > not studio production work, just touching up a few songs that my band
    > did a few years back and I certainly don't want to spend $500 AUD to
    > do it.
    >
    > I have had Cool Edit on my system for some time but haven't had time
    > to play with it. I downloaded the shareware version from Tucows as it
    > was rated as the best entry level audio editor. After playing around
    > with one of my band .wav files I decided it could do what I needed it
    > to do so I would purchase the full version for US$65. However when I
    > clicked the registration button I was taken to Adobe's website.
    > Apparently in May Adobe bought Syntrillium and have released Cool Edit
    > 2.0 rebranded as Adobe Audition and you can buy it for
    > US$299.......sheesh! If you own Cool Edit 2000 you can purchase an
    > upgrade to Audition for US$99, but you can't register Cool Edit 2000
    > any more.


    ==========================================

    Well, I consider that it is a great shame that Cool Edit 2000 no longer
    exists for sale.

    It was a good complete audio editor with a reasonable price and
    was quite sufficient for many people. It was also a well programmed
    thing that never crashed.

    Others exist but :

    Some are very simple but good and can be sufficient for some people or applications.
    Others are complexe like Cool Edit 2000.
    Some are very complet like Cool Edit Pro
    Some are cheap (or free)
    Some are very expensive.
    Some are hopeless.


    Find here, a non exaustive list of such products :



    http://www.exactaudiocopy.de EXACT AUDIO COPY (Free)

    http://www.goldwave.com GOLDWAVE

    http://www.sonicfoundry.com SOUND FORGE

    http://www.steinberg.net WAVELAB

    http://www.cdwave.com CD WAVE

    http://www.waverepair.com WAVE REPAIR

    http://www.diamondcut.com DCART

    http://www.coyotes.bc.ca GROOVE MECHANIC

    http://www.algorithmix.com SOUND LAUNDRY

    http://usa.magix.com/index.php?467 MAGIX AUDIO CLEANING LAB

    http://www.wavecor.co.uk WAVE CORRECTOR

    http://www.excla.com WAVE CLEAN

    http://www.tracertek.com DART PRO

    http://www.ahead.de WAVE EDITOR ( Nero 5.5 )

    http://www.cfbsoftware.com.au LP RECORDER

    http://users.chariot.net.au/~voskulen/popfix/popfix.html#contents POPFIX

    http://www.alienconnections.com/products_ps2000.htm PRISTINE SOUNDS

    http://europe.magix.com/index.php?id=518 AUDIO CLEANIC 3

    http://audacity.sourceforge.net AUDACITY for Windows, Mac OS9/X, Unix/Linux (Free)

    http://www.droidinfo.com.br/software/depopper/index.html DEPOPPER

    http://http://www.aconas.de ACON AS

    http://www.ejay-fr.com EJAY MUSIC CLEANING STUDIO

    http://www.wieser.clara.net/ripvinyl/faq.htm RIP VINYL

    http://www.voyetra.com/site/products/audiosurgeon/producthome.asp VOYETRA AUDIOSURGEON

    http://www.glowingcoast.co.uk/audio AUDIO SUITE

    http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net AUDIOGRABBER (The Base is Free)

    http://www.blazeaudio.com BLAZE AUDIO

    http://www.virtualworlds.co.nz/AAAwave.htm AAA Wave

    http://www.polderbits.com POLDERBITS

    http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/gramofile GRAMOFILE (Linux) (Free)

    http://gwc.sourceforge.net GNOME WAVE CLEANER (Linux) (Free)

    http://audioedit.mystikmedia.com AUDIOEDIT (WaveFix)

    http://www.dak.com/reviews/2040story.cfm DAK'S CLICK, POP & HISS ASSASSIN



    --
    Allen Reny.
    http://www.a-reny.com
  10. cedric

    cedric Guest

    Malcolm Short wrote:
    > "Blaktop" <paul@chiefontour.com> wrote in message
    > news:aa3115d7.0308311429.3ad84506@posting.google.com...
    >
    >>My question is......does anyone know of a cheap program that does what
    >>Cool Edit 2000 does. I have downloaded 6 shareware audio editors from



    Have you tried audacity ? This is really a great free audio editor..
    http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

    CP
  11. Mike Rivers

    Mike Rivers Guest

    In article <bj0jqf$la3$1@panix2.panix.com> moskowit@panix.com writes:

    > Audacity is great GPLed software


    GPLed software? Whazziz?



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    I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
  12. Luke Kaven

    Luke Kaven Guest

    mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers) wrote:

    >
    >In article <bj0jqf$la3$1@panix2.panix.com> moskowit@panix.com writes:
    >
    >> Audacity is great GPLed software

    >
    >GPLed software? Whazziz?


    GPL = GNU Public License.
    GNU = Gnu Not Unix.

    GPL is kind of like a Copyleft
  13. Scott Dorsey

    Scott Dorsey Guest

    Luke Kaven <luke@smallsrecords.com> wrote:
    >mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers) wrote:
    >>In article <bj0jqf$la3$1@panix2.panix.com> moskowit@panix.com writes:
    >>
    >>> Audacity is great GPLed software

    >>
    >>GPLed software? Whazziz?

    >
    >GPL = GNU Public License.
    >GNU = Gnu Not Unix.
    >
    >GPL is kind of like a Copyleft


    I WILL IRRADIATE YOU WITH THE STALLMANIZER RAY AND MAKE ALL YOUR
    SOFTWARE FREE!
    --scott


    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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