Anything to replace my Roland SCC-1?

Discussion in 'comp.music.midi' started by Alain Stucki, Sep 2, 2003.

  1. Alain Stucki

    Alain Stucki Guest

    Hello

    I'm still using an ISA card from Roland named SCC-1. It works great, even
    under XP, as you only have to install the standard MPU-401 driver that comes
    with Windows. I really love its sound. The instruments sound very realistic.

    Now the new computers don't have ISA slots anymore and I'm trying to find a
    sound card that has the same (or even better of course) quality of Midi
    sounds so that I can buy a new computer (the old one is getting too slow).
    Is anyone reading this who can recommend a good sound card for PCI slot? I'm
    using MIDI. For the very few wave-stuff I need I can plug in some Sound
    Blaster card. But for me MIDI sound quality is the priority. I bought a
    Sound Blaster Live card and I loaded some soundfonts but they don't come
    close to SCC-1. Or is there a really great sound font that I could buy? Or
    maybe someone knows a solution for an external sound card, so I could even
    use it on a laptop.

    Any help, hint or idea is much appreciated!

    regards
    Alain
  2. Rob

    Rob Guest

    Alain Stucki wrote:
    >
    > Hello
    >
    > I'm still using an ISA card from Roland named SCC-1. It works great, even
    > under XP, as you only have to install the standard MPU-401 driver that comes
    > with Windows. I really love its sound. The instruments sound very realistic.
    >
    > Now the new computers don't have ISA slots anymore and I'm trying to find a
    > sound card that has the same (or even better of course) quality of Midi
    > sounds so that I can buy a new computer (the old one is getting too slow).
    > Is anyone reading this who can recommend a good sound card for PCI slot? I'm
    > using MIDI. For the very few wave-stuff I need I can plug in some Sound
    > Blaster card. But for me MIDI sound quality is the priority. I bought a
    > Sound Blaster Live card and I loaded some soundfonts but they don't come
    > close to SCC-1. Or is there a really great sound font that I could buy? Or
    > maybe someone knows a solution for an external sound card, so I could even
    > use it on a laptop.
    >
    > Any help, hint or idea is much appreciated!


    Get an USB midi interface (can swap it between Desktop and Laptop!)

    Then get an external sound module of your choice ... e.g. Roland Sound
    Canvas
    (If you like the Roland sounds, then you could pick up a 2nd hand SC55
    or SC80). You could also go for Yamaha (XG/GS things) or others.

    Alternatively you can get software versions (-ish) of the above ...

    The advantage of e.g. software midi synths is that you can find sound
    samples on the net which you really like and can of course "change" then
    sounds. You can create your own if you need. Rather depends on how much
    you wish to pay.

    If you do live playing (even at home ... eg midi kbd), then you will
    need a decent soundcard and synth to get (a) decent sound, and (b)
    reduce the latency (iei the time taken from playing a note to getting
    the sound).

    However, if you really like the SCC-1, then a cheap external module is
    quite likely a good way to go. Also, buying 2nd hand it is likely you
    can always sell it on if/when you upgrade ...

    --
    Rob Fletcher, University of York, UK
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  3. JB Seattle

    JB Seattle Guest

    Well this kind of depends on several factors. If you like the Roland sounds
    and intend on moving up to Sonar by Cakewalk, it comes with the Roland VSC
    DXi softsynth and a trial version of LiveSynth and using the WDM drivers in
    XP, there is no audible delay in recording as well as playback with a
    decently powerful machine with DDR memory and 7200rpm harddrive.
    In fact the sounds are better than in some of the Roland hardware modules.
    Roland has stopped making the Sound Canvas series--the last ones were the
    SC8850 and 8820, now they have the SD20/80 which are different sound sets
    without backward capacity, but the VSCDXi is a sound canvas based on the
    sounds of the SC88Pro--however, the GM2 sounds are just awsome and with
    LiveSynth you can use soundfonts without a soundfont card and simply get
    some awsome sounds--upgrade to LiveSynth from Sonar and you will get a nice
    discount.
    Sonar makes using DXi softsynths a cinch and converting your final to
    audio/wav is a snap--I like it better than the VST/ASIO systems.
    So with a nice new powerful XP machine and Sonar you can have a really nice
    system. There are also rather cheap USB2.0 audio input devices that work
    great with Sonar.
    You want to watch the CPU and USB controllers on the new machine--stick with
    Pentuim and Intel USB controllers and you should have no trouble.
    We beta tested Sonar on our studio machine and it seems to perform
    flawlessly--in fact the sound is so good we are transferring our midi files
    to mp3 tracks and putting them all on DVD for our live performance
    background tracks instead of using the midi modules.
    Of course we use commercial midi files that we buy and then use Sonar to
    tweak them to our tastes and the venues we play all have licenses or we
    simply will not play there. Sonar is really great if you are in the
    business. Try a good commercial midi file like something from Tune 1000 or
    Turbo and use the VSC in GM2--you will be amazed how good it sounds over the
    SCC.
    JB
    "Alain Stucki" <spam@stuckiag.ch> wrote in message
    news:3f54a29f$1@news.swissonline.ch...
    > Hello
    >
    > I'm still using an ISA card from Roland named SCC-1. It works great, even
    > under XP, as you only have to install the standard MPU-401 driver that

    comes
    > with Windows. I really love its sound. The instruments sound very

    realistic.
    >
    > Now the new computers don't have ISA slots anymore and I'm trying to find

    a
    > sound card that has the same (or even better of course) quality of Midi
    > sounds so that I can buy a new computer (the old one is getting too slow).
    > Is anyone reading this who can recommend a good sound card for PCI slot?

    I'm
    > using MIDI. For the very few wave-stuff I need I can plug in some Sound
    > Blaster card. But for me MIDI sound quality is the priority. I bought a
    > Sound Blaster Live card and I loaded some soundfonts but they don't come
    > close to SCC-1. Or is there a really great sound font that I could buy? Or
    > maybe someone knows a solution for an external sound card, so I could even
    > use it on a laptop.
    >
    > Any help, hint or idea is much appreciated!
    >
    > regards
    > Alain
    >
    >

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