Beater patch

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by JWald, Aug 30, 2003.

  1. JWald

    JWald Guest

    Regardless of what it is made of, do you use one? When do you want one? All
    styles? I'm using a Superkick 1, and the felt side of a DW beater, and
    absolutly love the sound I'm getting. I have a patch, but am afraid of
    losing the sound I have. Am I risking head damage playing without a patch?

    --
    jwald

    "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
    Clemenza - Godfather I
  2. Hairy Pants

    Hairy Pants Guest

    I installed a patch on my kit. It does make more of a slap now, at least
    from my side. I doubt it will be noticeable from the audience though. That
    dent in the bass head has stopped growing, so i'm happy.

    You can always remove it with a blowdryer if you don't like it.

    Doug.
    "JWald" <d_player@gallatinriver.net> wrote in message
    news:biqda802s1c@enews1.newsguy.com...
    > Regardless of what it is made of, do you use one? When do you want one?

    All
    > styles? I'm using a Superkick 1, and the felt side of a DW beater, and
    > absolutly love the sound I'm getting. I have a patch, but am afraid of
    > losing the sound I have. Am I risking head damage playing without a patch?
    >
    > --
    > jwald
    >
    > "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
    > Clemenza - Godfather I
    >
    >
  3. Sam Savoca

    Sam Savoca Guest

    "joem" <jmelnyk@REMOVE_THIS_PARTcs.kent.edu> wrote in message
    news:slrnbl0qvd.e2e.jmelnyk@localhost.localdomain...
    > JWald wanted everyone in rec.music.makers.percussion to know that
    > > Regardless of what it is made of, do you use one? When do you want one?

    All
    > > styles? I'm using a Superkick 1, and the felt side of a DW beater, and
    > > absolutly love the sound I'm getting. I have a patch, but am afraid of
    > > losing the sound I have. Am I risking head damage playing without a

    patch?
    >
    > it depends on how hard you play. since you're using a superkick, I'm
    > guessing that you play at least moderately hard. so there probably is a
    > risk of damaging (most likely, denting and then later on breaking) your
    > head. I generally use the smallest patch possible (surface area-wise) so
    > that it affects the sound very little (other than adding a bit more
    > attack). and since you're using a superkick, I'm guessing that attack is
    > not your enemy; so maybe try going that route.


    Even though they wear through pretty fast when hit hard, the Evans black
    patch gives the least amount of sound coloring. However, what is with all
    the white dust these things give off??!!!??

    Sam S.
  4. joem

    joem Guest

    JWald wanted everyone in rec.music.makers.percussion to know that
    > Regardless of what it is made of, do you use one? When do you want one? All
    > styles? I'm using a Superkick 1, and the felt side of a DW beater, and
    > absolutly love the sound I'm getting. I have a patch, but am afraid of
    > losing the sound I have. Am I risking head damage playing without a patch?


    it depends on how hard you play. since you're using a superkick, I'm
    guessing that you play at least moderately hard. so there probably is a
    risk of damaging (most likely, denting and then later on breaking) your
    head. I generally use the smallest patch possible (surface area-wise) so
    that it affects the sound very little (other than adding a bit more
    attack). and since you're using a superkick, I'm guessing that attack is
    not your enemy; so maybe try going that route.

    --
    Joe.

    "you're an electronic girl...i'm a rock guy...i don't think we have a
    chance." - storm&stress
  5. Dan Radin

    Dan Radin Guest

    "Sam Savoca" <maxomega@erols.com> wrote in message
    news:biqge1$bmijl$1@ID-169713.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > Even though they wear through pretty fast when hit hard, the Evans black
    > patch gives the least amount of sound coloring. However, what is with all
    > the white dust these things give off??!!!??


    Asbestos?

    I agree with you Sam. The black Evans is cordura. I have it on my 20, which
    i usually play with the felt side of the DW beater, and have tuned for a
    pretty round, full sound. For a slappier sound with a plastic or wood
    beater, I like the Aquarian Kickpad (cut down) or Remo 2" Falam Slam.
  6. nick amoroso

    nick amoroso Guest

    dan wrote:

    >Asbestos?
    >
    >I agree with you Sam. The black Evans is cordura. I have it on my 20, which
    >i usually play with the felt side of the DW beater, and have tuned for a
    >pretty round, full sound. For a slappier sound with a plastic or wood
    >beater, I like the Aquarian Kickpad (cut down) or Remo 2" Falam Slam.
    >
    >


    the slug batter badge has always been my favorite. i don't find that it colors
    the sound at all, and the head feels more natural to me than it does with a
    round patch.

    peace,
    :nick amoroso:
    professional drums and instruction
    proud endorser of silver fox drumsticks
    -----
    "punching stuff rules" ~ dan radin
    "in your face, peart" ~ my tech
  7. creux

    creux Guest

    i use a 2" round patch that i cut from a 3m slide-prevention industrial
    black tape.
    this does affect the sound providing a distinct punch when i use a wooden
    beater - and thats the reason for me to use the patch - not saving the head.
  8. Hairy Pants

    Hairy Pants Guest

    Like this nick?

    http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2001/BB-675-Glow-in-the-Dark.html

    "nick amoroso" <soulbelly@aol.comICAL> wrote in message
    news:20030830135113.23859.00000116@mb-m22.aol.com...
    > dan wrote:
    >
    > >Asbestos?
    > >
    > >I agree with you Sam. The black Evans is cordura. I have it on my 20,

    which
    > >i usually play with the felt side of the DW beater, and have tuned for a
    > >pretty round, full sound. For a slappier sound with a plastic or wood
    > >beater, I like the Aquarian Kickpad (cut down) or Remo 2" Falam Slam.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > the slug batter badge has always been my favorite. i don't find that it

    colors
    > the sound at all, and the head feels more natural to me than it does with

    a
    > round patch.
    >
    > peace,
    > :nick amoroso:
    > professional drums and instruction
    > proud endorser of silver fox drumsticks
    > -----
    > "punching stuff rules" ~ dan radin
    > "in your face, peart" ~ my tech
  9. nick amoroso

    nick amoroso Guest

    "hairy pants" wrote:

    >Like this nick?
    >
    >http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2001/BB-675-Glow-in-the-Dark.html


    basically. go to the slug website and you'll see the badge on my dunnett ti
    bass drum (in the "news" section).

    peace,
    :nick amoroso:
    professional drums and instruction
    proud endorser of silver fox drumsticks
    -----
    "punching stuff rules" ~ dan radin
    "in your face, peart" ~ my tech
  10. Joey Furr

    Joey Furr Guest

    Wow, you use a slug beater? For some reason I didn't think you would like
    that much click.

    --

    ....Joey
    "...so hold the mustard on those flames, y'all." - Aaron Draper

    "nick amoroso" <soulbelly@aol.comICAL> wrote in message
    news:20030830142841.17956.00000101@mb-m25.aol.com...
    > "hairy pants" wrote:
    >
    > >Like this nick?
    > >
    > >http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2001/BB-675-Glow-in-the-Dark.html

    >
    > basically. go to the slug website and you'll see the badge on my dunnett

    ti
    > bass drum (in the "news" section).
    >
    > peace,
    > :nick amoroso:
    > professional drums and instruction
    > proud endorser of silver fox drumsticks
    > -----
    > "punching stuff rules" ~ dan radin
    > "in your face, peart" ~ my tech
  11. in article biqda802s1c@enews1.newsguy.com, JWald at
    d_player@gallatinriver.net wrote on 8/30/03 7:45 AM:

    > Regardless of what it is made of, do you use one? When do you want one? All
    > styles? I'm using a Superkick 1, and the felt side of a DW beater, and
    > absolutly love the sound I'm getting. I have a patch, but am afraid of
    > losing the sound I have. Am I risking head damage playing without a patch?
    >
    > --
    > jwald
    >
    > "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
    > Clemenza - Godfather I
    >
    >


    I guess it depends on how hard you're playing. I rarely ever use a patch
    (read: more like never). And over the past decade(+) of playing either
    pinstripes, PS-3's or just plain coated Amb BD heads, haven't needed to
    replace BD heads any more often than any others, and have only broke, I
    think, one (about a week ago, strangely enough).

    Now I'm not what I would call a heavy-hitter, but I certainly do things
    other things than play cocktail jazz and Burt Bacharach music. So though I
    certainly see the point and need of a patch for real heavy-hitting
    situations (or players) and/or to create the sound that they help produce
    (like me, your Superkick 1 head muffles so many high and high mids out of
    the sound that I might want/need an impact pad with the use of a hard beater
    to get some "snap", for articulation's sake, back into the sound), I see
    players using them in situations that IMO certainly don't require them.

    David
  12. nick amoroso

    nick amoroso Guest

    joey wrote:

    >
    >
    >Wow, you use a slug beater? For some reason I didn't think you would like
    >that much click.


    not nearly as much click as other beaters i've used (d.w., for example).

    peace,
    :nick amoroso:
    professional drums and instruction
    proud endorser of silver fox drumsticks
    -----
    "punching stuff rules" ~ dan radin
    "in your face, peart" ~ my tech
  13. -MIKE-

    -MIKE- Guest

    >>Wow, you use a slug beater? For some reason I didn't think you would like
    >>that much click.

    >
    > not nearly as much click as other beaters i've used (d.w., for example).
    >
    > peace,
    > :nick amoroso:
    >


    Now if only moongel would make one.


    -MIKE-

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    mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
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  14. nick amoroso

    nick amoroso Guest

    >Now if only moongel would make one.
    >
    >
    >-MIKE-


    we could do one. just need a low-cost source.

    groan.

    peace,
    :nick amoroso:
    professional drums and instruction
    proud endorser of silver fox drumsticks
    -----
    "punching stuff rules" ~ dan radin
    "in your face, peart" ~ my tech
  15. I like the Evans patches. They wear, but I haven't had to replace one yet.
    And I have Emads on both my 20" kicks. Then again I'm not the hardest
    hitter, and I'm a 100% felt beater man.

    --

    --
    Anthony Giampa; Imperiai2@cox.net
    "Pity makes me strong." -- Conan O'Brien


    "Dan Radin" <dan.radin@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:x344b.8890$zL5.5928@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
    > "Sam Savoca" <maxomega@erols.com> wrote in message
    > news:biqge1$bmijl$1@ID-169713.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > > Even though they wear through pretty fast when hit hard, the Evans black
    > > patch gives the least amount of sound coloring. However, what is with

    all
    > > the white dust these things give off??!!!??

    >
    > Asbestos?
    >
    > I agree with you Sam. The black Evans is cordura. I have it on my 20,

    which
    > i usually play with the felt side of the DW beater, and have tuned for a
    > pretty round, full sound. For a slappier sound with a plastic or wood
    > beater, I like the Aquarian Kickpad (cut down) or Remo 2" Falam Slam.
    >
    >
  16. Joey Furr

    Joey Furr Guest

    Don't give Tom any new ideas for a 'Dunnet' gel beater.

    --

    ....Joey
    "...so hold the mustard on those flames, y'all." - Aaron Draper

    "nick amoroso" <soulbelly@aol.comICAL> wrote in message
    news:20030831025332.23411.00000195@mb-m19.aol.com...
    > >Now if only moongel would make one.
    > >
    > >
    > >-MIKE-

    >
    > we could do one. just need a low-cost source.
    >
    > groan.
    >
    > peace,
    > :nick amoroso:
    > professional drums and instruction
    > proud endorser of silver fox drumsticks
    > -----
    > "punching stuff rules" ~ dan radin
    > "in your face, peart" ~ my tech
  17. drumdude

    drumdude Guest

    i agree
    i use the falam slam and cut it down to fit the roundness of the beater ,
    less contact to effect the heads and drum sound but protection from denting
    your head
    "Dan Radin" <dan.radin@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:x344b.8890$zL5.5928@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
    > "Sam Savoca" <maxomega@erols.com> wrote in message
    > news:biqge1$bmijl$1@ID-169713.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > > Even though they wear through pretty fast when hit hard, the Evans black
    > > patch gives the least amount of sound coloring. However, what is with

    all
    > > the white dust these things give off??!!!??

    >
    > Asbestos?
    >
    > I agree with you Sam. The black Evans is cordura. I have it on my 20,

    which
    > i usually play with the felt side of the DW beater, and have tuned for a
    > pretty round, full sound. For a slappier sound with a plastic or wood
    > beater, I like the Aquarian Kickpad (cut down) or Remo 2" Falam Slam.
    >
    >
  18. drumdude <pa.drumdude@verizon.net> wrote:
    > i agree
    > i use the falam slam and cut it down to fit the roundness of the beater ,
    > less contact to effect the heads and drum sound but protection from denting
    > your head


    Hey, I just do that with some pieces of scrap suede leather. Glue
    on two beater sized pieces. Sounds just great (even using the plastic
    beater side) because they are only beater head big and still rather
    soft. Totally protect the head and last forever. And did I mention
    next to free? (Got scraps from the trash bin at local leather shop)

    Benj
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