cakewalk help for a new midi user dummy

Discussion in 'alt.music.midi' started by cj, Aug 23, 2003.

  1. cj

    cj Guest

    ok, i hooked up my sythn to my windows based pc.
    i'm using cakewalk 2002. how do i get the sound to
    come out of my speakers? i'm using a yamaha
    psr-gx76 with a yamaha cbx driver.
    TIA
  2. >ok, i hooked up my sythn to my windows based pc.
    >i'm using cakewalk 2002. how do i get the sound to
    >come out of my speakers? i'm using a yamaha
    >psr-gx76 with a yamaha cbx driver.



    The sounds will come out of the same place they would if the computer
    wasn't there at all and you were playing the keyboard normally. If
    you want to record them into the computer, make an audio connection
    between Line Out of the keyboard and Line In of your computer.

    CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
  3. cj

    cj Guest

    "Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:d2jfkv8me7dtqe0ofacro3lmg7gubiqccm@4ax.com...
    > >ok, i hooked up my sythn to my windows based pc.
    > >i'm using cakewalk 2002. how do i get the sound to
    > >come out of my speakers? i'm using a yamaha
    > >psr-gx76 with a yamaha cbx driver.

    >
    >
    > The sounds will come out of the same place they would if the computer
    > wasn't there at all and you were playing the keyboard normally. If
    > you want to record them into the computer, make an audio connection
    > between Line Out of the keyboard and Line In of your computer.
    >
    > CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm

    Thanks. I do have everything hooked up according to instructions and
    when I go to record, nothing gets recorded. I have bank and patch
    settings too. This is confusing. The help file for Cakewalk doesn't
    give you a simple explanation. Like to get C do A and B. A lot of it
    assumes you have mastery of this and I do not. I've been too lazy
    all these years with analog recorders that I guess I have a lot of
    catching up to do. The problem is that i'm getting frustrated with
    something
    that would seem "simple"...to me anyway. Maybe I'll just do all my tracks
    live, but I don't want to pass up on all the MIDI advantages.
  4. JB Seattle

    JB Seattle Guest

    Many PSR's require you to enable midi out on the keyboard, have you checked
    the PSR manual.
    JB
    "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote in message
    news:pxQ1b.11982$kF1.8551@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
    >
    > "Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:d2jfkv8me7dtqe0ofacro3lmg7gubiqccm@4ax.com...
    > > >ok, i hooked up my sythn to my windows based pc.
    > > >i'm using cakewalk 2002. how do i get the sound to
    > > >come out of my speakers? i'm using a yamaha
    > > >psr-gx76 with a yamaha cbx driver.

    > >
    > >
    > > The sounds will come out of the same place they would if the computer
    > > wasn't there at all and you were playing the keyboard normally. If
    > > you want to record them into the computer, make an audio connection
    > > between Line Out of the keyboard and Line In of your computer.
    > >
    > > CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm

    > Thanks. I do have everything hooked up according to instructions and
    > when I go to record, nothing gets recorded. I have bank and patch
    > settings too. This is confusing. The help file for Cakewalk doesn't
    > give you a simple explanation. Like to get C do A and B. A lot of it
    > assumes you have mastery of this and I do not. I've been too lazy
    > all these years with analog recorders that I guess I have a lot of
    > catching up to do. The problem is that i'm getting frustrated with
    > something
    > that would seem "simple"...to me anyway. Maybe I'll just do all my tracks
    > live, but I don't want to pass up on all the MIDI advantages.
    >
    >
  5. cj

    cj Guest

    "JB Seattle" <shnoozle8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:gCR1b.861$3E.16@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > Many PSR's require you to enable midi out on the keyboard, have you

    checked
    > the PSR manual.

    Yes. I did everything to the letter. Maybe it's because I have an external
    and internal sound card. I don't know. I've been trying to troubleshoot
    this
    all day.
  6. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Hi,

    I just got through the same frustrating experience. I read the help file
    and it solved my problem (my cables were reversed...).

    From the help file:

    "I Can't Record from My MIDI Instrument

    If you are unable to record music from your electronic keyboard,
    synthesizer, or other MIDI instrument, first test to see if you are able to
    play back a song through the keyboard. Then try the following:

    Possible problem. What to do.
    No MIDI input device is selected.
    Choose Options-MIDI Devices, and check the Input device list. Make sure that
    the MIDI input on your computer sound card is highlighted.

    Your MIDI cables are reversed.
    Make sure that the MIDI Out plug is connected to the MIDI In jack on your
    keyboard and that the MIDI In plug is connected to the MIDI Out jack on your
    keyboard.

    You have not set up Cakewalk to record
    Make sure that 1) you have chosen a source for the track; 2) you have armed
    the track for recording; and 3) you have pressed the Record button, and not
    the Play button.

    If none of these suggestions works, check our web site for additional
    suggestions or contact technical support."

    HTH



    "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> a écrit dans le message news:
    miT1b.1887$t57.952@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
    >
    > "Old Nick" <nsnfwhite@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
    > news:3f47f8a6.129365969@localhost...
    > > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:58:05 GMT, "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote
    > > something
    > > ......and in reply I say!:
    > >
    > >
    > > Post more details. What is hooked to what? What gear are you using, in
    > > detail? What OS? What setups have you done in Home Studio. "doing it
    > > by the book" can mean anything.
    > >
    > > What _can_ you achieve already, so people can work out what you do
    > > have?
    > >
    > > Are you trying to record MIDI, Audio?
    > >
    > > Sorry for the questions. But so often people say they have set up
    > > exactly right, and everybody starts talking at cross purposes.

    > The original post had more detail:
    > "ok, i hooked up my sythn to my windows based pc.
    > i'm using cakewalk 2002. how do i get the sound to
    > come out of my speakers? i'm using a yamaha
    > psr-gx76 with a yamaha cbx driver." Running W98SE
    > P3 256 MB ram.
    > The out and in are hooked up to the keyboard which in turn
    > is hooked up to my internal sound card. I went into CW's software
    > and told it which device to connect to. Man, I must be a fucking
    > idiot. I also had a problem just trying to use microsofts recorder.
    > i finally figured that out so i can record directly into CW now, but the
    > midi part still isnt working at all. Right now I have my stereo out of
    > my analog recorder plugged into my external sound card. I'd really
    > like to get my midi working though, considering how much i paid
    > for those cords.
    >
    >
  7. Old Nick

    Old Nick Guest

    On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:58:05 GMT, "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote
    something
    .......and in reply I say!:


    Post more details. What is hooked to what? What gear are you using, in
    detail? What OS? What setups have you done in Home Studio. "doing it
    by the book" can mean anything.

    What _can_ you achieve already, so people can work out what you do
    have?

    Are you trying to record MIDI, Audio?

    Sorry for the questions. But so often people say they have set up
    exactly right, and everybody starts talking at cross purposes.
    >
    >"JB Seattle" <shnoozle8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >news:gCR1b.861$3E.16@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    >> Many PSR's require you to enable midi out on the keyboard, have you

    >checked
    >> the PSR manual.

    >Yes. I did everything to the letter. Maybe it's because I have an external
    >and internal sound card. I don't know. I've been trying to troubleshoot
    >this
    >all day.
    >
    >


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  8. cj

    cj Guest

    "Old Nick" <nsnfwhite@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
    news:3f47f8a6.129365969@localhost...
    > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:58:05 GMT, "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote
    > something
    > ......and in reply I say!:
    >
    >
    > Post more details. What is hooked to what? What gear are you using, in
    > detail? What OS? What setups have you done in Home Studio. "doing it
    > by the book" can mean anything.
    >
    > What _can_ you achieve already, so people can work out what you do
    > have?
    >
    > Are you trying to record MIDI, Audio?
    >
    > Sorry for the questions. But so often people say they have set up
    > exactly right, and everybody starts talking at cross purposes.

    The original post had more detail:
    "ok, i hooked up my sythn to my windows based pc.
    i'm using cakewalk 2002. how do i get the sound to
    come out of my speakers? i'm using a yamaha
    psr-gx76 with a yamaha cbx driver." Running W98SE
    P3 256 MB ram.
    The out and in are hooked up to the keyboard which in turn
    is hooked up to my internal sound card. I went into CW's software
    and told it which device to connect to. Man, I must be a fucking
    idiot. I also had a problem just trying to use microsofts recorder.
    i finally figured that out so i can record directly into CW now, but the
    midi part still isnt working at all. Right now I have my stereo out of
    my analog recorder plugged into my external sound card. I'd really
    like to get my midi working though, considering how much i paid
    for those cords.
  9. FRETBUZZ

    FRETBUZZ Guest

    CJ

    I will confess to not being too well up on midi myself... but is it
    possible that you need to enable "midi thru" in cakewalk (I use pro audio 9,
    but other sequencer software I've used had to have this enabled before I
    could use the controller keyboard I have connected)?

    Just throwing another idea into the pot ;-)

    Regards

    Fretbuzz




    "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote in message
    news:miT1b.1887$t57.952@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
    >
    > "Old Nick" <nsnfwhite@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
    > news:3f47f8a6.129365969@localhost...
    > > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:58:05 GMT, "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote
    > > something
    > > ......and in reply I say!:
    > >
    > >
    > > Post more details. What is hooked to what? What gear are you using, in
    > > detail? What OS? What setups have you done in Home Studio. "doing it
    > > by the book" can mean anything.
    > >
    > > What _can_ you achieve already, so people can work out what you do
    > > have?
    > >
    > > Are you trying to record MIDI, Audio?
    > >
    > > Sorry for the questions. But so often people say they have set up
    > > exactly right, and everybody starts talking at cross purposes.

    > The original post had more detail:
    > "ok, i hooked up my sythn to my windows based pc.
    > i'm using cakewalk 2002. how do i get the sound to
    > come out of my speakers? i'm using a yamaha
    > psr-gx76 with a yamaha cbx driver." Running W98SE
    > P3 256 MB ram.
    > The out and in are hooked up to the keyboard which in turn
    > is hooked up to my internal sound card. I went into CW's software
    > and told it which device to connect to. Man, I must be a fucking
    > idiot. I also had a problem just trying to use microsofts recorder.
    > i finally figured that out so i can record directly into CW now, but the
    > midi part still isnt working at all. Right now I have my stereo out of
    > my analog recorder plugged into my external sound card. I'd really
    > like to get my midi working though, considering how much i paid
    > for those cords.
    >
    >



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  10. cj

    cj Guest

    "Mike" <mike2213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:pNX1b.50198$f43.821392@weber.videotron.net...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I just got through the same frustrating experience. I read the help file
    > and it solved my problem (my cables were reversed...).
    >
    > From the help file:
    >
    > "I Can't Record from My MIDI Instrument
    >
    > If you are unable to record music from your electronic keyboard,
    > synthesizer, or other MIDI instrument, first test to see if you are able

    to
    > play back a song through the keyboard. Then try the following:
    >
    > Possible problem. What to do.
    > No MIDI input device is selected.
    > Choose Options-MIDI Devices, and check the Input device list. Make sure

    that
    > the MIDI input on your computer sound card is highlighted.
    >
    > Your MIDI cables are reversed.
    > Make sure that the MIDI Out plug is connected to the MIDI In jack on your
    > keyboard and that the MIDI In plug is connected to the MIDI Out jack on

    your
    > keyboard.
    >
    > You have not set up Cakewalk to record
    > Make sure that 1) you have chosen a source for the track; 2) you have

    armed
    > the track for recording; and 3) you have pressed the Record button, and

    not
    > the Play button.
    >
    > If none of these suggestions works, check our web site for additional
    > suggestions or contact technical support."

    Thanks. That helped. I must be a real dumbass. Amazingly, I do
    data analysis for a living. Go figure.
  11. cj

    cj Guest

    "FRETBUZZ" <fretbuzz01@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:bi9al5$7uk$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > CJ
    >
    > I will confess to not being too well up on midi myself... but is it
    > possible that you need to enable "midi thru" in cakewalk (I use pro audio

    9,
    > but other sequencer software I've used had to have this enabled before I
    > could use the controller keyboard I have connected)?
    >
    > Just throwing another idea into the pot ;-)
    >
    > Regards
    >
    > Fretbuzz
    >

    Thanks to everybody's help, I've finally managed to get it going.
  12. Old Nick

    Old Nick Guest

    On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:04:34 GMT, "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote
    something
    .......and in reply I say!:

    OK. Calm down. You are not an idiot of any kind<G> because you cannot
    get this lot working. Just step through piece by piece.

    Calm...calmmmmm <G>


    >The original post had more detail:
    >"ok, i hooked up my sythn to my windows based pc.
    >i'm using cakewalk 2002. how do i get the sound to
    >come out of my speakers?


    Which speakers? Speakers on the keyboard? speakers attacjhed to
    soundcard.

    >i'm using a yamaha
    >psr-gx76 with a yamaha cbx driver." Running W98SE
    >P3 256 MB ram.



    >The out and in are hooked up to the keyboard which in turn
    >is hooked up to my internal sound card.


    OK. I assume you mean MIDI Out and MIDI In. Are these from the
    joystick port of your soundcard. Do you have the In cable connected to
    out of the external synth and the Out Cable connected to the In port
    of the synth? You should. That's how it works. Not being smart. Just
    about every poor sod has been caught by this.


    >I went into CW's software
    >and told it which device to connect to.


    Ok. But what we need to know here is what that was called. otherwise
    nobody can tell you whether you were fucking idiot or not <G>. You may
    be trying to connect to the wrong port entirely.

    >I also had a problem just trying to use microsofts recorder.


    Trying to do what?

    >i finally figured that out so i can record directly into CW now, but the
    >midi part still isnt working at all.


    By this you mean you can record Audio but not MIDI? Can you record
    MIDI into CW? Will it then not play back? etc

    >Right now I have my stereo out of
    >my analog recorder plugged into my external sound card.


    And you are using this setup to do what? Sorry. But I (we here) need
    to know what you are trying to do, what you have done, and how much
    you know.

    Do you, for instance understand the difference between MIDI and Audio,
    as far as the PC is concerned?

    What is an external soundcard?

    >I'd really
    >like to get my midi working though, considering how much i paid
    >for those cords.


    What cords? Where are they connected?

    I know it's frustrating. But usually the guys here have worked stuff
    out for each other and for others. It takes small logical steps, and
    answering questions directly. We have all been through this, believe
    me. Most of us more than once. :-<

    I can tell you that sitting here typing questions, trying to help, and
    getting the feeling that you are dealing with a flittering shadow at
    the other end does not get problems solved.

    Sorry for the lecture. But that's the truth.
    ******************************************************************************************
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    The rest sit around and make snide comments.

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    Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email
    !!
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  13. cj

    cj Guest

    "Old Nick" <nsnfwhite@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
    news:3f4839ac.11096070@localhost...
    > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:04:34 GMT, "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote
    > something
    > ......and in reply I say!:
    >
    > OK. Calm down. You are not an idiot of any kind<G> because you cannot
    > get this lot working. Just step through piece by piece.
    >
    > Calm...calmmmmm <G>
    >
    >
    > >The original post had more detail:
    > >"ok, i hooked up my sythn to my windows based pc.
    > >i'm using cakewalk 2002. how do i get the sound to
    > >come out of my speakers?

    >
    > Which speakers? Speakers on the keyboard? speakers attacjhed to
    > soundcard.
    >
    > >i'm using a yamaha
    > >psr-gx76 with a yamaha cbx driver." Running W98SE
    > >P3 256 MB ram.

    >
    >
    > >The out and in are hooked up to the keyboard which in turn
    > >is hooked up to my internal sound card.

    >
    > OK. I assume you mean MIDI Out and MIDI In. Are these from the
    > joystick port of your soundcard. Do you have the In cable connected to
    > out of the external synth and the Out Cable connected to the In port
    > of the synth? You should. That's how it works. Not being smart. Just
    > about every poor sod has been caught by this.
    >
    >
    > >I went into CW's software
    > >and told it which device to connect to.

    >
    > Ok. But what we need to know here is what that was called. otherwise
    > nobody can tell you whether you were fucking idiot or not <G>. You may
    > be trying to connect to the wrong port entirely.
    >
    > >I also had a problem just trying to use microsofts recorder.

    >
    > Trying to do what?
    >
    > >i finally figured that out so i can record directly into CW now, but the
    > >midi part still isnt working at all.

    >
    > By this you mean you can record Audio but not MIDI? Can you record
    > MIDI into CW? Will it then not play back? etc
    >
    > >Right now I have my stereo out of
    > >my analog recorder plugged into my external sound card.

    >
    > And you are using this setup to do what? Sorry. But I (we here) need
    > to know what you are trying to do, what you have done, and how much
    > you know.
    >
    > Do you, for instance understand the difference between MIDI and Audio,
    > as far as the PC is concerned?
    >
    > What is an external soundcard?
    >
    > >I'd really
    > >like to get my midi working though, considering how much i paid
    > >for those cords.

    >
    > What cords? Where are they connected?
    >
    > I know it's frustrating. But usually the guys here have worked stuff
    > out for each other and for others. It takes small logical steps, and
    > answering questions directly. We have all been through this, believe
    > me. Most of us more than once. :-<
    >
    > I can tell you that sitting here typing questions, trying to help, and
    > getting the feeling that you are dealing with a flittering shadow at
    > the other end does not get problems solved.
    >
    > Sorry for the lecture. But that's the truth.

    That's okay. I figured it out already.
  14. Old Nick

    Old Nick Guest

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:07:34 GMT, "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote
    something
    .......and in reply I say!:

    Well, I tell ya, it would be nice to know how. Just for reference.

    >>
    >> Sorry for the lecture. But that's the truth.

    >That's okay. I figured it out already.
    >
    >


    ******************************************************************************************
    Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
    The rest sit around and make snide comments.

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    Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email
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  15. cj

    cj Guest

    "Old Nick" <nsnfwhite@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
    news:3f49b89d.705109@localhost...
    > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:07:34 GMT, "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote
    > something
    > ......and in reply I say!:
    >
    > Well, I tell ya, it would be nice to know how. Just for reference.


    Well, for starters out goes to in and in goes to out, duh. The rest was
    embarrassingly
    overlooked on my part and thus, not worth further embarassment by posting it
    on usenet.
  16. Old Nick

    Old Nick Guest

    On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:04:20 GMT, "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote
    something
    .......and in reply I say!:
    shrug
    >
    >"Old Nick" <nsnfwhite@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
    >news:3f49b89d.705109@localhost...
    >> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:07:34 GMT, "cj" <spamnada@cojones.com> wrote
    >> something
    >> ......and in reply I say!:
    >>
    >> Well, I tell ya, it would be nice to know how. Just for reference.

    >
    >Well, for starters out goes to in and in goes to out, duh. The rest was
    >embarrassingly
    >overlooked on my part and thus, not worth further embarassment by posting it
    >on usenet.
    >
    >


    ******************************************************************************************
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    The rest sit around and make snide comments.

    Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music
    Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email
    !!
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  17. UserDave5093

    UserDave5093 Guest

    you need to set the midi out ports to your synth. what are you using for an
    interface?

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