Click Track cont.

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by andrew graham, Aug 18, 2003.

  1. I am buying a hard Disc recorder to use to record a click track for a
    live performance. There are going to be many clicks happening in
    sequence and my question is this; Is there a way to use the machine
    (Akai DR 16) to advance the clicks in a sequecial order automatically
    or do I need to advance it manually. I have heard of something called
    a stop box, is this what I need to make this happen or is there
    another way without buying more equipment?

    ANDREW
  2. Chris Smalt

    Chris Smalt Guest

    Andrew wrote:

    > I am buying a hard Disc recorder to use to record a click track for a
    > live performance. There are going to be many clicks happening in
    > sequence and my question is this; Is there a way to use the machine
    > (Akai DR 16) to advance the clicks in a sequecial order automatically
    > or do I need to advance it manually. I have heard of something called
    > a stop box, is this what I need to make this happen or is there
    > another way without buying more equipment?



    What will your click track sound like? Is it more than two channels
    (left/right)? How many people need to hear it? Why not use something
    like an mp3 player (at maximum quality)? You can set up a playlist, and
    it will play in that order. Some can stop after each track, so that you
    can determine when the next one begins. Or you can just rehearse real
    hard and work without a click.


    Chris
  3. >I am buying a hard Disc recorder to use to record a click track for a
    >live performance. There are going to be many clicks happening in
    >sequence and my question is this; Is there a way to use the machine
    >(Akai DR 16) to advance the clicks in a sequecial order automatically
    >or do I need to advance it manually. I have heard of something called
    >a stop box, is this what I need to make this happen or is there
    >another way without buying more equipment?



    How are you making the click track?
    The DR16, even at current second-hand prices, seems an overly
    expensive and complicated method of playing a click.

    Tell us just what you're going to do? Click tracks often seem a good
    idea, but become a bloody nuisance :)
  4. >How are you making the click track?
    >The DR16, even at current second-hand prices, seems an overly
    >expensive and complicated method of playing a click.
    >
    >Tell us just what you're going to do? Click tracks often seem a good
    >idea, but become a bloody nuisance :)


    Oh, I see. I've just looked back at your earlier posts under a
    different thread.

    "Click Track" nowadays tends to mean JUST the click, to keep the
    drummer in time during a recording session. You're talking about
    "sweetener" backing tracks for live performance.

    When I've used these in theatre, I have to admit I've taken the
    attitude "Well, if some of it's going to be recorded, why not most of
    it?" I've prepared a fairly full track, leaving space for whatever
    live instruments were going to be played. Think in terms of the live
    players sweetening the track, rather than the other way round.
  5. Rob Reedijk

    Rob Reedijk Guest

    andrew graham <andrewgraham@prodigy.net> wrote:
    > I am buying a hard Disc recorder to use to record a click track for a
    > live performance. There are going to be many clicks happening in
    > sequence and my question is this; Is there a way to use the machine
    > (Akai DR 16) to advance the clicks in a sequecial order automatically
    > or do I need to advance it manually. I have heard of something called
    > a stop box, is this what I need to make this happen or is there
    > another way without buying more equipment?


    I don't think that there is way to do exactly what you want, but as
    a Dr16 owner, let me offer up a few solutions.

    First of all, the Dr16 (or Dr8, they are almost identical) has 110
    locate points. So you can set locate points for each cue and all you
    have to do is push the locate button and play. But if you have more
    than 11 cues ( the nine single digit buttons plus in and out) you have
    to use the stack locates which involves three key strokes instead of
    just one.

    I am not sure what a stop box is, but on the Dr16 you can use a simple
    foot switch. It is possible that with no tracks armed it will function
    as a simple toggle to start and stop the machine. This may be exactly
    what you think you want, but I wouldn't do that. It isn't precise. You
    would have to be very careful about when to start and stop the machine.

    If you want to get a little more slick, you can use MIDI Machine Control
    on the Dr16, as long as you have a MIDI card installed in it. Then you
    can use some sort of a MIDI controller (could be a keyboard, a mixer,
    a drum machine, or even the Akai controller made for the Dr16) and
    operate the locating and starting functions without having to have
    the Dr16 right in front of you.

    Too bad you aren't looking to buy a Dr8, because I could sell you mine
    with a bunch of option cards.

    Good luck,

    Rob R.

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