Convert Mac WAV to Windows WAV??

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by Eric Endres, Aug 26, 2003.

  1. Eric Endres

    Eric Endres Guest

    Hi there. A studio recently transferred some recordings for me to edit on
    my home system. We had asked to have everything in WAV format, but didn't
    specify we were using Windows. They were transferred to CDs from a MAC Pro
    Tools system, but the CDs don't show any files and nothing will come up when
    trying to upload the files to my system. The CDs do show the megabytes that
    are taken up on the discs, so the information is obviously there, but it's
    not compatible.

    Is there a simple way to convert what is there to be accessed by Windows
    software (Cool Edit Pro, er... Adobe Audition)? Is a conversion program
    needed? The studio will do it again if necessary, but I'd rather save some
    time and hassle if possible. And if they do have to transfer the files
    again, is there a step they need to take to make sure the WAVs will be
    compatible with Windows? They weren't sure, either.

    Thanks much,
    EE

    --
    http://www.AWeekInTheLife.com
    A Week In The Life - A musical by Eric Endres
  2. Arny Krueger

    Arny Krueger Guest

    "Eric Endres" <ee42@usa.net> wrote in message
    news:9aI2b.10306$jY2.10269@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net

    > Hi there. A studio recently transferred some recordings for me to
    > edit on my home system. We had asked to have everything in WAV
    > format, but didn't specify we were using Windows. They were
    > transferred to CDs from a MAC Pro Tools system, but the CDs don't
    > show any files and nothing will come up when trying to upload the
    > files to my system. The CDs do show the megabytes that are taken up
    > on the discs, so the information is obviously there, but it's not
    > compatible.


    Is it possible that the discs are in CD audio format and need to be extraced
    using a DAE program like CDEX or EAC?

    > Is there a simple way to convert what is there to be accessed by
    > Windows software (Cool Edit Pro, er... Adobe Audition)? Is a
    > conversion program needed? The studio will do it again if necessary,
    > but I'd rather save some time and hassle if possible. And if they do
    > have to transfer the files again, is there a step they need to take
    > to make sure the WAVs will be compatible with Windows? They weren't
    > sure, either.


    IME there's very little that Adobe Audition/Cool Edit Pro can't convert to a
    useful form. In those few cases where this was true, nothing else seemed to
    work, either. Remember, CE 2.x and Audition now include a fairly flexible
    DAE facility for reading CD audio discs.

    However, in some cases experimentation with file parameters is required in
    the CE/Audition file open dialog boxes.
  3. The byte order between Mac chips and Intel chips are reversed.

    Wavelab will let you specify the byte order if it cannot recognize the file
    format. I've had to do this a few times with AIFF's and WAV's burned on a
    Mac for use on my PC based Nuendo system.

    It's a giant pain. I don't own a Mac so I don't know what to tell you as
    far as telling the studio what file system to burn.




    "Eric Endres" <ee42@usa.net> wrote in message
    news:9aI2b.10306$jY2.10269@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
    > Hi there. A studio recently transferred some recordings for me to edit on
    > my home system. We had asked to have everything in WAV format, but didn't
    > specify we were using Windows. They were transferred to CDs from a MAC

    Pro
    > Tools system, but the CDs don't show any files and nothing will come up

    when
    > trying to upload the files to my system. The CDs do show the megabytes

    that
    > are taken up on the discs, so the information is obviously there, but it's
    > not compatible.
    >
    > Is there a simple way to convert what is there to be accessed by Windows
    > software (Cool Edit Pro, er... Adobe Audition)? Is a conversion program
    > needed? The studio will do it again if necessary, but I'd rather save

    some
    > time and hassle if possible. And if they do have to transfer the files
    > again, is there a step they need to take to make sure the WAVs will be
    > compatible with Windows? They weren't sure, either.
    >
    > Thanks much,
    > EE
    >
    > --
    > http://www.AWeekInTheLife.com
    > A Week In The Life - A musical by Eric Endres
    >
    >
  4. Scott Dorsey

    Scott Dorsey Guest

    Eric Endres <ee42@usa.net> wrote:
    >Hi there. A studio recently transferred some recordings for me to edit on
    >my home system. We had asked to have everything in WAV format, but didn't
    >specify we were using Windows. They were transferred to CDs from a MAC Pro
    >Tools system, but the CDs don't show any files and nothing will come up when
    >trying to upload the files to my system. The CDs do show the megabytes that
    >are taken up on the discs, so the information is obviously there, but it's
    >not compatible.


    if you can't see the files at all, it's not a matter of the files being in
    the wrong format, it's a matter of the CD being in the wrong format I bet.
    By "not see them" you mean that if you go to the "My Computer" icon and
    select the CD device that it's empty, right?

    Ask them if they made you an ISO fileystem, or if there is a Mac filesystem
    on that CD.

    >Is there a simple way to convert what is there to be accessed by Windows
    >software (Cool Edit Pro, er... Adobe Audition)? Is a conversion program
    >needed? The studio will do it again if necessary, but I'd rather save some
    >time and hassle if possible. And if they do have to transfer the files
    >again, is there a step they need to take to make sure the WAVs will be
    >compatible with Windows? They weren't sure, either.


    Shouldn't be any problem if they make you an ISO CD. You should be able to
    see the files and load them.
    --scott

    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
  5. bs

    bs Guest


    > Shouldn't be any problem if they make you an ISO CD. You should be able

    to
    > see the files and load them.
    > --scott
    >


    Just like the Scott said... They burned CD in mac format, and Windows can't
    read mac format. There are programs for PC to convert from mac files, but
    the simpliest way is to tell them in studio to bur an ISO cd with your
    files.
  6. GLASS SHADOW

    GLASS SHADOW Guest

    The program I use for reading Mac formatted discs on my Windows platform is
    MacDrive.
    http://www.media4.com/products/macdrive/

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    Glass Shadow
    http://www.g-2-productions.com/glassshadow/

    "bs" <bqwert@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:big2ce$is$1@garrison.globalnet.hr...
    >
    > > Shouldn't be any problem if they make you an ISO CD. You should be able

    > to
    > > see the files and load them.
    > > --scott
    > >

    >
    > Just like the Scott said... They burned CD in mac format, and Windows

    can't
    > read mac format. There are programs for PC to convert from mac files, but
    > the simpliest way is to tell them in studio to bur an ISO cd with your
    > files.
    >
    >
  7. "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote:
    > Remember, CE 2.x and Audition now include a fairly flexible
    >DAE facility for reading CD audio discs.


    The CEPRO ripper is the only ripper I know that will create wav files with
    the embedded cue points.

    However, It's so agonizingly slow that it's nearly useless here.

    Can anyone use this to rip a full cd with, say, 10 cue points, in under 100
    minutes?
  8. nuke

    nuke Guest

    >Shouldn't be any problem if they make you an ISO CD. You should be able
    >to
    >see the files and load them.
    >--scott


    Bingo.

    Just ask them to reburn the CD in ISO9660 format.

    Either that, or get a program for Windows that can mount HFS file systems.


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  9. Scott Dorsey

    Scott Dorsey Guest

    nuke <larrysb@aol.commode> wrote:
    >>Shouldn't be any problem if they make you an ISO CD. You should be able
    >>to
    >>see the files and load them.

    >
    >Just ask them to reburn the CD in ISO9660 format.
    >
    >Either that, or get a program for Windows that can mount HFS file systems.


    Can't Windows mount the older High Sierra stuff as well? I know it
    can't mount a real Mac filesystem.
    --scott

    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
  10. Chris Smalt

    Chris Smalt Guest


    > Just like the Scott said... They burned CD in mac format, and Windows can't
    > read mac format. There are programs for PC to convert from mac files, but
    > the simpliest way is to tell them in studio to burn an ISO cd with your
    > files.



    The weird thing about this is that CDs burned on a current Mac are
    cross-platform by default. You have to specifically turn the option off
    to burn a Mac-only disc.

    (The wave files are identical. There's one pitfall that Macusers often
    forget: the PC wants to see the name of each file end in ".wav". Newer
    Mac programs generally offer to add the file extension, but check with
    the studio if they did this. Otherwise you have to change all the file
    names yourself.)


    Chris
  11. It sounds like the studio is using an older Mac system or an older
    version of Toast (or whatever) that makes you choose between HFS or
    ISO9660 CD formats. The current version of Toast defaults to "Mac/PC
    Hybrid" that just about any computer can read. If you can't get them
    to burn you a new disc, then you need to download a shareware utility
    for opening HFS disks on the Windows platform. I have such a program
    on my windoze machine, but don't recall exactly what it's called. Go
    to www.tucows.com and look around, you'll find several.

    ulysses


    In article <9aI2b.10306$jY2.10269@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
    Eric Endres <ee42@usa.net> wrote:

    > Hi there. A studio recently transferred some recordings for me to edit on
    > my home system. We had asked to have everything in WAV format, but didn't
    > specify we were using Windows. They were transferred to CDs from a MAC Pro
    > Tools system, but the CDs don't show any files and nothing will come up when
    > trying to upload the files to my system. The CDs do show the megabytes that
    > are taken up on the discs, so the information is obviously there, but it's
    > not compatible.
    >
    > Is there a simple way to convert what is there to be accessed by Windows
    > software (Cool Edit Pro, er... Adobe Audition)? Is a conversion program
    > needed? The studio will do it again if necessary, but I'd rather save some
    > time and hassle if possible. And if they do have to transfer the files
    > again, is there a step they need to take to make sure the WAVs will be
    > compatible with Windows? They weren't sure, either.
    >
    > Thanks much,
    > EE
    >
    > --
    > http://www.AWeekInTheLife.com
    > A Week In The Life - A musical by Eric Endres
    >
    >
  12. Eric Endres

    Eric Endres Guest

    Many thanks for the responses, everyone. MacDrive did the trick!

    "Eric Endres" <ee42@usa.net> wrote in message news:<9aI2b.10306$jY2.10269@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
    > Hi there. A studio recently transferred some recordings for me to edit on
    > my home system. We had asked to have everything in WAV format, but didn't
    > specify we were using Windows. They were transferred to CDs from a MAC Pro
    > Tools system, but the CDs don't show any files and nothing will come up when
    > trying to upload the files to my system. The CDs do show the megabytes that
    > are taken up on the discs, so the information is obviously there, but it's
    > not compatible.
    >
    > Is there a simple way to convert what is there to be accessed by Windows
    > software (Cool Edit Pro, er... Adobe Audition)? Is a conversion program
    > needed? The studio will do it again if necessary, but I'd rather save some
    > time and hassle if possible. And if they do have to transfer the files
    > again, is there a step they need to take to make sure the WAVs will be
    > compatible with Windows? They weren't sure, either.
    >
    > Thanks much,
    > EE
  13. I wrote:

    >The CEPRO ripper is the only ripper I know that will create wav files with
    >the embedded cue points. However, It's so agonizingly slow that it's nearly useless here.


    Now, I've played with Audition's ripper. It may be somewhat faster but
    it misreads the cd and should be avoided.

    I know CDRWIN rips ok, because I've compared its output against the
    original wav file. EAC's valuable "wave file compare" shows significant
    differences against Audition, including repeated samples!

    Not recommended.

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