cracking cymbal, any hope?

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by markz, Sep 1, 2003.

  1. markz

    markz Guest

    hi guys,
    My turkish 18" crash has started to crack. The crack is not
    perpendicular to the cymbal (not from the edge towards the bell) but is a
    round crack following the circle of the cymbal but a coupla cms further in.
    Is that understandable? anyway, is there something I can do to avoid
    further cracking/make it last a little longer?
    thx
    markzzz
  2. Chris Whealy

    Chris Whealy Guest

    markz wrote:
    > hi guys,
    > My turkish 18" crash has started to crack. The crack is not
    > perpendicular to the cymbal (not from the edge towards the bell) but is a
    > round crack following the circle of the cymbal but a coupla cms further in.
    > Is that understandable? anyway, is there something I can do to avoid
    > further cracking/make it last a little longer?
    > thx
    > markzzz


    When a circulat crack starts at or near the bell, its usually time to
    get a new cymbal.

    This type of crack can start if you have the cymbals screwed up tight on
    the stand, so that they are not free to move when hit.

    You could possibly try get the cracked brazed, but I don't have any
    experience of how well such repairs last.

    Chris

    --
    The voice of ignorance speaks loud and long,
    but the words of the wise are quiet and few.
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  3. Not much you can do to stop the crack from spreading. I had an old A
    Zildjian 16" stencil-logo crash many years ago that cracked like yours. I
    took it to my local music store, and they used a jewelers loupe (magnifying
    lense) to find the ends of the crack. Then, using an 1/8" drill bit, drilled
    holes at both ends of the crack. This stopped the progression of the crack
    for about a year. Eventually I had to ditch the cymbal, as the crack started
    to migrate again. Make sure your cymbals can move freely on the stands;
    don't tighten the wing nuts down too much.
    You could use the cymbal for special effects. Stack it with another cymbal
    to get some trashy, white noise, fast accents. The crack would probably help
    you in that case.
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    www.nelsondrumcraft.com
    Custom drums : Repair : Bearing edges : Studio tech : Vintage broker


    "Chris Whealy" <chris.whealy.NOSPAM@sap.com> wrote in message
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    > markz wrote:
    > > hi guys,
    > > My turkish 18" crash has started to crack. The crack is not
    > > perpendicular to the cymbal (not from the edge towards the bell) but is

    a
    > > round crack following the circle of the cymbal but a coupla cms further

    in.
    > > Is that understandable? anyway, is there something I can do to avoid
    > > further cracking/make it last a little longer?
    > > thx
    > > markzzz

    >
    > When a circulat crack starts at or near the bell, its usually time to
    > get a new cymbal.
    >
    > This type of crack can start if you have the cymbals screwed up tight on
    > the stand, so that they are not free to move when hit.
    >
    > You could possibly try get the cracked brazed, but I don't have any
    > experience of how well such repairs last.
    >
    > Chris
    >
    > --
    > The voice of ignorance speaks loud and long,
    > but the words of the wise are quiet and few.
    > --
    >
  4. Paul

    Paul Guest

    > You could use the cymbal for special effects. Stack it with another cymbal
    > to get some trashy, white noise, fast accents. The crack would probably

    help
    > you in that case.


    Like this - the flailing bits shred my sticks, but I don't want to risk
    cutting them off incase it messes with the sound :)

    Though it may sound 'better' - hmmm, back in a bit ;)

    http://www.luap.h.btinternet.co.uk/cymbal.jpg

    --
    Paul
    www.manymoremusic.co.uk
  5. I've never had any luck repairing this kind of crack... the cymbals a goner.
    But don't throw it out! I find if you tuck ol' crackies away for 6 months
    and then pull them out again, you can look at them with a fresh perspective
    and maybe find use for it again as an effect or something. It's always a
    sad day when cracks come a knockin'.

    Mike


    "markz" <marksausNOSPAM@NOSPAMterra.es> wrote in message
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    > hi guys,
    > My turkish 18" crash has started to crack. The crack is not
    > perpendicular to the cymbal (not from the edge towards the bell) but is a
    > round crack following the circle of the cymbal but a coupla cms further

    in.
    > Is that understandable? anyway, is there something I can do to avoid
    > further cracking/make it last a little longer?
    > thx
    > markzzz
    >
    >
  6. -MIKE-

    -MIKE- Guest

    Time to put some rivets in it and use it as a jazz ride of effects
    cymbal. I did this to a cracked 17 Paiste Sig and it's now one of
    my favorites.

    -MIKE-

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    > hi guys,
    > My turkish 18" crash has started to crack. The crack is not
    > perpendicular to the cymbal (not from the edge towards the bell) but is a
    > round crack following the circle of the cymbal but a coupla cms further

    in.
    > Is that understandable? anyway, is there something I can do to avoid
    > further cracking/make it last a little longer?
    > thx
    > markzzz
    >
    >

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