deafening noise in the first second

Discussion in 'alt.music.midi' started by Adinda Visser, Aug 16, 2003.

  1. Hello,
    Can anyone help me please? I want to put midi files on the website of a
    choir for the choir members to practise their parts.
    I made the files in a music notation programme and saved them as midi files.
    On playback some of them sounded OK but some of them started with a really
    deafening noise. What did I do wrong?
    Adinda

  2. >Hello,
    >Can anyone help me please? I want to put midi files on the website of a
    >choir for the choir members to practise their parts.
    >I made the files in a music notation programme and saved them as midi files.
    >On playback some of them sounded OK but some of them started with a really
    >deafening noise. What did I do wrong?
    >Adinda
    >


    If you told us where to find the files, or even shared which program
    you made them in, it might be possible to help .

    Otherwise, we can only make wild guesses :)

    CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
  3. Yes, you're right.
    I made the files in Finale.
    And the place you can find them is:
    http://home.hccnet.nl/dvisser.1/oefenmateriaal.htm
    A bit down the page you see all the numbers of Händel's Messiah
    An example is: number 20. The soprano part (S)


    "Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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    >
    > >Hello,
    > >Can anyone help me please? I want to put midi files on the website of a
    > >choir for the choir members to practise their parts.
    > >I made the files in a music notation programme and saved them as midi

    files.
    > >On playback some of them sounded OK but some of them started with a

    really
    > >deafening noise. What did I do wrong?
    > >Adinda
    > >

    >
    > If you told us where to find the files, or even shared which program
    > you made them in, it might be possible to help .
    >
    > Otherwise, we can only make wild guesses :)
    >
    > CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
  4. I play the file with the quick time player. perhaps there's something wrong
    with it, or with the way my computer handles the playback. When I start the
    file without turning back the volume first I almost get eardamage. I don't
    know the English word for it. A kind of shreek (is that a word?)
    Some of the midifiles I downloaded in the past had the same thing. I thought
    the problem was in the files.
    And that there was now the same phenomenon in my files, I thought it was
    because I don't know a thing about midi, and that I had forgotten something.
    Glad to know you could play the file OK.
    Have you ever heard that people had this problem while playing midi files?

    "Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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    > >Yes, you're right.
    > >I made the files in Finale.
    > >And the place you can find them is:
    > >http://home.hccnet.nl/dvisser.1/oefenmateriaal.htm
    > >A bit down the page you see all the numbers of Händel's Messiah
    > >An example is: number 20. The soprano part (S)

    >
    > Plays OK on my machine. What exactly goes wrong for you?
    >
    > CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
  5. Peter

    Peter Guest

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 11:23:48 +0200, "Adinda Visser"
    <d-visser@quicknet.nl> wrote:

    >I play the file with the quick time player. perhaps there's something wrong
    >with it, or with the way my computer handles the playback. When I start the
    >file without turning back the volume first I almost get eardamage. I don't
    >know the English word for it. A kind of shreek (is that a word?)
    >Some of the midifiles I downloaded in the past had the same thing. I thought
    >the problem was in the files.
    >And that there was now the same phenomenon in my files, I thought it was
    >because I don't know a thing about midi, and that I had forgotten something.
    >Glad to know you could play the file OK.
    >Have you ever heard that people had this problem while playing midi files?


    I looked at the file and you have a program change first and then at
    the same time you play the first chord. Try redo it but wait 1 bar
    then begin play your part.
    Peter
  6. I insert one empty bar at the beginning of all my files, is it that simple?
    I'll try, thank you Peter

    And thank you Laurence


    "Peter" <nomail@nowhere.com> schreef in bericht
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    > On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 11:23:48 +0200, "Adinda Visser"
    > <d-visser@quicknet.nl> wrote:
    >
    > >I play the file with the quick time player. perhaps there's something

    wrong
    > >with it, or with the way my computer handles the playback. When I start

    the
    > >file without turning back the volume first I almost get eardamage. I

    don't
    > >know the English word for it. A kind of shreek (is that a word?)
    > >Some of the midifiles I downloaded in the past had the same thing. I

    thought
    > >the problem was in the files.
    > >And that there was now the same phenomenon in my files, I thought it was
    > >because I don't know a thing about midi, and that I had forgotten

    something.
    > >Glad to know you could play the file OK.
    > >Have you ever heard that people had this problem while playing midi

    files?
    >
    > I looked at the file and you have a program change first and then at
    > the same time you play the first chord. Try redo it but wait 1 bar
    > then begin play your part.
    > Peter
  7. >I play the file with the quick time player. perhaps there's something wrong
    >with it, or with the way my computer handles the playback. When I start the
    >file without turning back the volume first I almost get eardamage. I don't
    >know the English word for it. A kind of shreek (is that a word?)
    >Some of the midifiles I downloaded in the past had the same thing. I thought
    >the problem was in the files.
    >And that there was now the same phenomenon in my files, I thought it was
    >because I don't know a thing about midi, and that I had forgotten something.
    >Glad to know you could play the file OK.
    >Have you ever heard that people had this problem while playing midi files?



    Tried it in the QT player - still OK!

    I've got two of your files here. Soprano parts to 03 and to 20.
    Can you confirm that 20 has the problem, 03 doesn't?

    Someone suggested the program change coinciding with a note on beat 1
    could be the problem. All your files have this. I f this caused any
    problem, I would expect it to be a missing first note, not a shreik.
    (Ever done Walton's 'Belshazzar's Feast'? Perhaps you could use it :)

    CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm

  8. >I insert one empty bar at the beginning of all my files, is it that simple?
    >I'll try, thank you Peter


    Give it a try. But note that all your files are constructed the same
    way, and only some of them shriek.

    CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
  9. I get more and more confused.
    Files 03 seem to be OK all the time. But the next ones aren't. But when I
    play them a second time, the noise sometimes has disappeared.
    so..............???

    "Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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    > >I play the file with the quick time player. perhaps there's something

    wrong
    > >with it, or with the way my computer handles the playback. When I start

    the
    > >file without turning back the volume first I almost get eardamage. I

    don't
    > >know the English word for it. A kind of shreek (is that a word?)
    > >Some of the midifiles I downloaded in the past had the same thing. I

    thought
    > >the problem was in the files.
    > >And that there was now the same phenomenon in my files, I thought it was
    > >because I don't know a thing about midi, and that I had forgotten

    something.
    > >Glad to know you could play the file OK.
    > >Have you ever heard that people had this problem while playing midi

    files?
    >
    >
    > Tried it in the QT player - still OK!
    >
    > I've got two of your files here. Soprano parts to 03 and to 20.
    > Can you confirm that 20 has the problem, 03 doesn't?
    >
    > Someone suggested the program change coinciding with a note on beat 1
    > could be the problem. All your files have this. I f this caused any
    > problem, I would expect it to be a missing first note, not a shreik.
    > (Ever done Walton's 'Belshazzar's Feast'? Perhaps you could use it :)
    >
    > CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm

  10. >I get more and more confused.
    >Files 03 seem to be OK all the time. But the next ones aren't. But when I
    >play them a second time, the noise sometimes has disappeared.
    >so..............???


    OK
    Go to:
    http://mysite.freeserve.com/LP1
    and try the file X20, a slightly modified version of your 20 soprano
    file. Can you make this one misbehave?



    CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
  11. I tried a few files. One extra measure and it seems to work!!!!!!!!!!
    great, thank you


    "Adinda Visser" <d-visser@quicknet.nl> schreef in bericht
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    > I get more and more confused.
    > Files 03 seem to be OK all the time. But the next ones aren't. But when I
    > play them a second time, the noise sometimes has disappeared.
    > so..............???
    >
    > "Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> schreef in

    bericht
    > news:msoujvobtin2p3097r6a1pkadin9adsas2@4ax.com...
    > > >I play the file with the quick time player. perhaps there's something

    > wrong
    > > >with it, or with the way my computer handles the playback. When I start

    > the
    > > >file without turning back the volume first I almost get eardamage. I

    > don't
    > > >know the English word for it. A kind of shreek (is that a word?)
    > > >Some of the midifiles I downloaded in the past had the same thing. I

    > thought
    > > >the problem was in the files.
    > > >And that there was now the same phenomenon in my files, I thought it

    was
    > > >because I don't know a thing about midi, and that I had forgotten

    > something.
    > > >Glad to know you could play the file OK.
    > > >Have you ever heard that people had this problem while playing midi

    > files?
    > >
    > >
    > > Tried it in the QT player - still OK!
    > >
    > > I've got two of your files here. Soprano parts to 03 and to 20.
    > > Can you confirm that 20 has the problem, 03 doesn't?
    > >
    > > Someone suggested the program change coinciding with a note on beat 1
    > > could be the problem. All your files have this. I f this caused any
    > > problem, I would expect it to be a missing first note, not a shreik.
    > > (Ever done Walton's 'Belshazzar's Feast'? Perhaps you could use it :)
    > >
    > > CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm

    >
    >
  12. I tried a few files. One extra measue. And no noise so far. So it seems to
    work.
    It's great. Thank you!
  13. I have to go and visit family right now. I'll try later on and let you know.


    "Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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    >
    > >I get more and more confused.
    > >Files 03 seem to be OK all the time. But the next ones aren't. But when I
    > >play them a second time, the noise sometimes has disappeared.
    > >so..............???

    >
    > OK
    > Go to:
    > http://mysite.freeserve.com/LP1
    > and try the file X20, a slightly modified version of your 20 soprano
    > file. Can you make this one misbehave?
    >
    >
    >
    > CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
  14. I decided to leave the family be for a few minutes and have a look (have a
    hear) first. Sounds great. What did you do with the file?

    "Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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    >
    > >I get more and more confused.
    > >Files 03 seem to be OK all the time. But the next ones aren't. But when I
    > >play them a second time, the noise sometimes has disappeared.
    > >so..............???

    >
    > OK
    > Go to:
    > http://mysite.freeserve.com/LP1
    > and try the file X20, a slightly modified version of your 20 soprano
    > file. Can you make this one misbehave?
    >
    >
    >
    > CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm

  15. >I decided to leave the family be for a few minutes and have a look (have a
    >hear) first. Sounds great. What did you do with the file?


    Opened it in Cubase, added a blank bar at the front, shifted the
    program change commands to the front, now a bay before the first note.

    Probably much the same result as inserting a blank preliminary bar in
    Finale :)

    Has anyone except you managed to reproduce the problem? Does it
    happen if you play the midis in Windows Media Player?

    CubaseFAQ page www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
  16. With software players it seems to occur sometimes that the song starts
    quicker than the sound can be loaded or initialized and then the missing
    sound comes bit too late (and will probably quicker played than should)
    as a bad noise and following notes are played correctly and in time.

    I think a bar at beginning helped to give the player enough time to
    initialize the software made (or loaded) sounds before using them on
    first notes.

    Günter

    Adinda Visser wrote:
    >
    > I tried a few files. One extra measure and it seems to work!!!!!!!!!!

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