Demeter Fat Control for jazz?

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by Joey Goldstein, Sep 2, 2003.

  1. While hanging out with Lorne Lofsky this summer, him teaching at IMC's
    Jazz Camp and me teaching at IMC's Camp Rock (believe it or not), I saw
    he was using a custom made Tele with a Barden neck pickup coupled with a
    Demeter Fat Control.
    <http://www.demeteramps.com/accessories/>
    He sounded great, as always, but for my tastes I like the sound he
    usually gets with EMG's and the SPC Presence Control (also a mid boost
    circuit designed to make single coils sound more like humbuckers) a
    little better.

    Anybody else out there using the Demeter Fat Control to make single coil
    Tele or Strat pickups sound more like humbuckers *for a jazz tone*?
    Anythings to consider?
    Will the electronics and the battery usually fit inside a stock Strat
    body without needing to route any wood?

    I've got a Strat with Kinman pickups on it that would be a better
    jobbing guitar if it had some humbucking sounds too. It's a little thin
    sounding as is for the dinner music/jazz I have to play on some gigs but
    sounds great for everything else. The Fat Control might just do the
    trick.

    The EMG SPC doesn't seem to work so well with passive pickups. The
    Demeter is designed for this. As a matter of fact I think the Demeter is
    active all the time, even at 0, and also acts as a buffer/line driver
    which would be a plus if it has a nice transparent sounding buffer. Not
    much info about the Demeter on the web though.

    --
    Joey Goldstein
    http://www.joeygoldstein.com
    joegold AT sympatico DOT ca
  2. Mondoslug1

    Mondoslug1 Guest

    Joey wrote:

    >While hanging out with Lorne Lofsky this summer, him teaching at IMC's
    >Jazz Camp and me teaching at IMC's Camp Rock (believe it or not), I saw
    >he was using a custom made Tele with a Barden neck pickup coupled with a
    >Demeter Fat Control.
    ><http://www.demeteramps.com/accessories/>
    >He sounded great, as always, but for my tastes I like the sound he
    >usually gets with EMG's and the SPC Presence Control (also a mid boost
    >circuit designed to make single coils sound more like humbuckers) a
    >little better.
    >
    >Anybody else out there using the Demeter Fat Control to make single coil
    >Tele or Strat pickups sound more like humbuckers *for a jazz tone*?


    I have a Demeter Mid Boost on my Tyler but I never use it - don't know if
    that's the same thing.

    >Anythings to consider?
    >Will the electronics and the battery usually fit inside a stock Strat
    >body without needing to route any wood?
    >
    >I've got a Strat with Kinman pickups on it that would be a better
    >jobbing guitar if it had some humbucking sounds too. It's a little thin
    >sounding as is for the dinner music/jazz I have to play on some gigs but
    >sounds great for everything else. The Fat Control might just do the
    >trick.
    >
    >The EMG SPC doesn't seem to work so well with passive pickups. The
    >Demeter is designed for this. As a matter of fact I think the Demeter is
    >active all the time, even at 0, and also acts as a buffer/line driver
    >which would be a plus if it has a nice transparent sounding buffer. Not
    >much info about the Demeter on the web though.
    >
    >--
    >Joey Goldstein
    >http://www.joeygoldstein.com
    >joegold AT sympatico DOT ca
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >






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  3. Don Evans

    Don Evans Guest

    "Joey Goldstein" <nospam@nowhere.net> wrote in message
    news:3F550378.210B43FC@nowhere.net...
    >
    > While hanging out with Lorne Lofsky this summer, him teaching at IMC's
    > Jazz Camp and me teaching at IMC's Camp Rock (believe it or not), I saw
    > he was using a custom made Tele with a Barden neck pickup coupled with a
    > Demeter Fat Control.
    > <http://www.demeteramps.com/accessories/>
    > He sounded great, as always, but for my tastes I like the sound he
    > usually gets with EMG's and the SPC Presence Control (also a mid boost
    > circuit designed to make single coils sound more like humbuckers) a
    > little better.
    >
    > Anybody else out there using the Demeter Fat Control to make single coil
    > Tele or Strat pickups sound more like humbuckers *for a jazz tone*?
    > Anythings to consider?
    > Will the electronics and the battery usually fit inside a stock Strat
    > body without needing to route any wood?
    >


    I can give you Demeter's answer to that, since I asked him about the unit
    when I bought my Tremulator. He says you have to rout a bit to get it in
    there.

    I'm curious about this thread, since I have the same issues with pickups
    from time to time.

    Don

    > I've got a Strat with Kinman pickups on it that would be a better
    > jobbing guitar if it had some humbucking sounds too. It's a little thin
    > sounding as is for the dinner music/jazz I have to play on some gigs but
    > sounds great for everything else. The Fat Control might just do the
    > trick.
    >
    > The EMG SPC doesn't seem to work so well with passive pickups. The
    > Demeter is designed for this. As a matter of fact I think the Demeter is
    > active all the time, even at 0, and also acts as a buffer/line driver
    > which would be a plus if it has a nice transparent sounding buffer. Not
    > much info about the Demeter on the web though.
    >




    > --
    > Joey Goldstein
    > http://www.joeygoldstein.com
    > joegold AT sympatico DOT ca
  4. Jim Anable

    Jim Anable Guest

    Joey Goldstein wrote:

    > While hanging out with Lorne Lofsky this summer, him teaching at IMC's
    > Jazz Camp and me teaching at IMC's Camp Rock (believe it or not), I saw
    > he was using a custom made Tele with a Barden neck pickup coupled with a
    > Demeter Fat Control.
    > <http://www.demeteramps.com/accessories/>
    > He sounded great, as always, but for my tastes I like the sound he
    > usually gets with EMG's and the SPC Presence Control (also a mid boost
    > circuit designed to make single coils sound more like humbuckers) a
    > little better.
    >
    > Anybody else out there using the Demeter Fat Control to make single coil
    > Tele or Strat pickups sound more like humbuckers *for a jazz tone*?
    > Anythings to consider?
    > Will the electronics and the battery usually fit inside a stock Strat
    > body without needing to route any wood?
    >
    > I've got a Strat with Kinman pickups on it that would be a better
    > jobbing guitar if it had some humbucking sounds too.


    Bite the bullet and install the EMG DG20 setup. Three active SA p'ups, SPC
    and EXP active tones. You'll be glad you did!

    > It's a little thin
    > sounding as is for the dinner music/jazz I have to play on some gigs but
    > sounds great for everything else. The Fat Control might just do the
    > trick.
    >
    > The EMG SPC doesn't seem to work so well with passive pickups. The
    > Demeter is designed for this. As a matter of fact I think the Demeter is
    > active all the time, even at 0, and also acts as a buffer/line driver
    > which would be a plus if it has a nice transparent sounding buffer. Not
    > much info about the Demeter on the web though.
    >
    > --
    > Joey Goldstein
    > http://www.joeygoldstein.com
    > joegold AT sympatico DOT ca
  5. Jim Anable wrote:
    >
    > Joey Goldstein wrote:
    >
    > >


    > Bite the bullet and install the EMG DG20 setup. Three active SA p'ups, SPC
    > and EXP active tones. You'll be glad you did!


    I've already got that system on one of my guitars. It's real versatile
    and everything and sounds real good for lots of music, including jazz.
    Lofsky's been using them for jazz for years. Works better with heavy
    strings but so do most jazz guitar sounds.
    But EMG SA's sound very little like real Strat pickups. The Kinmans
    sound quite a bit like real strat pickups. If I could have that sound
    plus a mid boosted humbucker like sound on the same guitar I'd be
    happier than I am with the EMG SA's and the SPC.




    --
    Joey Goldstein
    http://www.joeygoldstein.com
    joegold AT sympatico DOT ca

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