F**K UPS!!!! (United Parcel Service)

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by Rev. Poindexter, Aug 14, 2003.

  1. I've had it with these bozos. I made the trek today to send some items
    out and they inform me at the desk, " We can't insure any items that
    aren't in their original packaging."
    WTF??? A 20 year old drum I wanted to insure for $200-- well packed
    with 3 inches of insulation on all sides and they say NO?

    I guess it's Fed Ex from here on out.

    What a bunch of morons.

    RP

    --
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    visit the Unofficial Sonor Virtual Museum --- www.sonormuseum.com
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  2. Donn

    Donn Guest

    Amen!

    "Rev. Poindexter" <poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com> wrote in message
    news:140820031740277473%poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com...
    > I've had it with these bozos. I made the trek today to send some items
    > out and they inform me at the desk, " We can't insure any items that
    > aren't in their original packaging."
    > WTF??? A 20 year old drum I wanted to insure for $200-- well packed
    > with 3 inches of insulation on all sides and they say NO?
    >
    > I guess it's Fed Ex from here on out.
    >
    > What a bunch of morons.
    >
    > RP
    >
    > --
    > Rev. Poindexter (masquerading as Scott Logsdon) -

    rev@NOSPAMsonormuseum.com
    > visit the Unofficial Sonor Virtual Museum --- www.sonormuseum.com
    > ** - ** - ** - ** - **
    > Frank Zappa isn't dead, he just smells funny
    >
  3. joem

    joem Guest

    Rev. Poindexter wanted everyone in rec.music.makers.percussion to know that
    > I've had it with these bozos. I made the trek today to send some items
    > out and they inform me at the desk, " We can't insure any items that
    > aren't in their original packaging."


    since when?

    --
    Joe.

    "you're an electronic girl...i'm a rock guy...i don't think we have a
    chance." - storm&stress
  4. Hairy Pants

    Hairy Pants Guest

    Just tell them it IS the original packaging. How are they gonna know the
    difference?
    "Rev. Poindexter" <poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com> wrote in message
    news:140820031740277473%poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com...
    > I've had it with these bozos. I made the trek today to send some items
    > out and they inform me at the desk, " We can't insure any items that
    > aren't in their original packaging."
    > WTF??? A 20 year old drum I wanted to insure for $200-- well packed
    > with 3 inches of insulation on all sides and they say NO?
    >
    > I guess it's Fed Ex from here on out.
    >
    > What a bunch of morons.
    >
    > RP
    >
    > --
    > Rev. Poindexter (masquerading as Scott Logsdon) -

    rev@NOSPAMsonormuseum.com
    > visit the Unofficial Sonor Virtual Museum --- www.sonormuseum.com
    > ** - ** - ** - ** - **
    > Frank Zappa isn't dead, he just smells funny
  5. In article <slrnbjo2vc.dkf.jmelnyk@localhost.localdomain>,
    joem <jmelnyk@REMOVE_THIS_PARTcs.kent.edu> wrote:

    > Rev. Poindexter wanted everyone in rec.music.makers.percussion to know that
    > > I've had it with these bozos. I made the trek today to send some items
    > > out and they inform me at the desk, " We can't insure any items that
    > > aren't in their original packaging."

    >
    > since when?


    Not only do I work for UPS but I ship through UPS too and I've never
    heard of such a requirement. Maybe you got a clerk that is misinformed.

    ED W
  6. Drumdude

    Drumdude Guest

    Hey Rev
    I am a sonor dealer now !!!!
    woooohooooo
    cant wait to get my s class in
    "Rev. Poindexter" <poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com> wrote in message
    news:140820031740277473%poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com...
    > I've had it with these bozos. I made the trek today to send some items
    > out and they inform me at the desk, " We can't insure any items that
    > aren't in their original packaging."
    > WTF??? A 20 year old drum I wanted to insure for $200-- well packed
    > with 3 inches of insulation on all sides and they say NO?
    >
    > I guess it's Fed Ex from here on out.
    >
    > What a bunch of morons.
    >
    > RP
    >
    > --
    > Rev. Poindexter (masquerading as Scott Logsdon) -

    rev@NOSPAMsonormuseum.com
    > visit the Unofficial Sonor Virtual Museum --- www.sonormuseum.com
    > ** - ** - ** - ** - **
    > Frank Zappa isn't dead, he just smells funny
  7. NoSheeples

    NoSheeples Guest

    >
    >Not only do I work for UPS but I ship through UPS too and I've never
    >heard of such a requirement. Maybe you got a clerk that is misinformed.


    I don't expect you to share with us how they treat packages. I know people who
    work for UPs to. Here is what they say.
    Your on your own! They throw packages from 10 feet on to a conveyor. They are
    under the gun so bad that damage is a secondary concern. Further they have a
    hidden policy. A claim is a bitch to get paid. The common exuse is that you
    didn't
    pack it right. Read the fine print and you will see that proper packaging is
    somthing they define, not you. They can make a call. UPS is horrible, and
    has a dismal
    record when it comes to handling packages. USPS never damages my packages, I
    have shipped hundreds with no trouble. About one on 10 with UPS will get some
    type of damage.

    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty is
    a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
  8. Steve Vallee

    Steve Vallee Guest

    That doesn't sound right-- I think you got a trainee or something. Why
    don't you just do the shipping/insurance online, print out your label and
    hand it to a UPS driver?

    -SV


    "Rev. Poindexter" <poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com> wrote in message
    news:140820031740277473%poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com...
    > I've had it with these bozos. I made the trek today to send some items
    > out and they inform me at the desk, " We can't insure any items that
    > aren't in their original packaging."
    > WTF??? A 20 year old drum I wanted to insure for $200-- well packed
    > with 3 inches of insulation on all sides and they say NO?
    >
    > I guess it's Fed Ex from here on out.
    >
    > What a bunch of morons.
    >
    > RP
    >
    > --
    > Rev. Poindexter (masquerading as Scott Logsdon) -

    rev@NOSPAMsonormuseum.com
    > visit the Unofficial Sonor Virtual Museum --- www.sonormuseum.com
    > ** - ** - ** - ** - **
    > Frank Zappa isn't dead, he just smells funny
  9. -sTu-

    -sTu- Guest

    The company I work for ships delicate instruments through UPS and rarely has
    ever had a problem (1 out of 100,000 packages). We ship something near
    4,000-10,000 packages a day through UPS. In the various jobs I've had in my
    company I have shipped hundreds of packages and equipment via UPS and never
    had a problem with damage. I don't know what you've seen but for me UPS is a
    great service.

    --
    -sTu-

    ....and I'll never go to Sacramento again.
    - Nick (Soulbelly) of RMMP

    "NoSheeples" <n2new@aol.comNsheep> wrote in message
    news:20030814225506.02463.00000006@mb-m23.aol.com...
    > >
    > >Not only do I work for UPS but I ship through UPS too and I've never
    > >heard of such a requirement. Maybe you got a clerk that is misinformed.

    >
    > I don't expect you to share with us how they treat packages. I know people

    who
    > work for UPs to. Here is what they say.
    > Your on your own! They throw packages from 10 feet on to a conveyor. They

    are
    > under the gun so bad that damage is a secondary concern. Further they have

    a
    > hidden policy. A claim is a bitch to get paid. The common exuse is that

    you
    > didn't
    > pack it right. Read the fine print and you will see that proper packaging

    is
    > somthing they define, not you. They can make a call. UPS is horrible,

    and
    > has a dismal
    > record when it comes to handling packages. USPS never damages my

    packages, I
    > have shipped hundreds with no trouble. About one on 10 with UPS will get

    some
    > type of damage.
    >
    > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty

    is
    > a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
    >
  10. NoSheeples

    NoSheeples Guest

    >The company I work for ships delicate instruments through UPS and rarely has
    >ever had a problem (1 out of 100,000 packages). We ship something near
    >4,000-10,000 packages a day through UPS. In the various jobs I've had in my
    >company I have shipped hundreds of packages and equipment via UPS and never
    >had a problem with damage. I don't know what you've seen but for me UPS is a
    >great service.
    >
    >--
    >-sTu-
    >
    >...and I'll never go to Sacramento again.
    >- Nick (Soulbelly) of RMMP
    >
    >"NoSheeples" <n2new@aol.comNsheep> wrote in message
    >news:20030814225506.02463.00000006@mb-m23.aol.com...
    >> >
    >> >Not only do I work for UPS but I ship through UPS too and I've never
    >> >heard of such a requirement. Maybe you got a clerk that is misinformed.

    >>
    >> I don't expect you to share with us how they treat packages. I know people

    >who
    >> work for UPs to. Here is what they say.
    >> Your on your own! They throw packages from 10 feet on to a conveyor. They

    >are
    >> under the gun so bad that damage is a secondary concern. Further they have

    >a
    >> hidden policy. A claim is a bitch to get paid. The common exuse is that

    >you
    >> didn't
    >> pack it right. Read the fine print and you will see that proper packaging

    >is
    >> somthing they define, not you. They can make a call. UPS is horrible,

    >and
    >> has a dismal
    >> record when it comes to handling packages. USPS never damages my

    >packages, I
    >> have shipped hundreds with no trouble. About one on 10 with UPS will get

    >some
    >> type of damage.
    >>
    >> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty

    >is
    >> a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
    >>

    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >



    We had 4 $20,000 Instruments damaged in one year, and we only shipped 12. You
    are extremely lucky. It must be where your located. I know for a fact how they
    treat packages. I watched in horror as the Ups guy dragged a wooden crate
    housing one of the interments across the pavement. UPS has to worry more
    about the speedy delivery then the package. Their policy is simple. If you
    don't pack the ever living shit out of it your screwed. The reason you have so
    little trouble is likley due to the fact that you're shipping items in factory
    packaging so they are suriving the abuse. Anything less then that is asking for
    trouble. UPS has a horrible track record for damaging items. Frankly I think
    your numbers are full of shit. Actually I know they are.

    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty is
    a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
  11. joem

    joem Guest

    -sTu- wanted everyone in rec.music.makers.percussion to know that
    > The company I work for ships delicate instruments through UPS and rarely has
    > ever had a problem (1 out of 100,000 packages). We ship something near
    > 4,000-10,000 packages a day through UPS. In the various jobs I've had in my
    > company I have shipped hundreds of packages and equipment via UPS and never
    > had a problem with damage. I don't know what you've seen but for me UPS is a
    > great service.


    I agree. and I 100% disagree with the claim that USPS handles your
    packages safely. I have had about 1 in 3 packages damaged by the USPS.
    they completely shredded the package my sequencer (an expensive
    electronic device) came in, then left it on my doorstep. they bent the
    shit out of every poster I've ever ordered. everything arrives
    incredibly slow. they lose half of the things I ship for days on end (it
    once took six weeks for my package to go from Ohio to Kansas, via "priority
    mail"). they've downright lost things for months at a time with no
    notice to either party; then later claimed it was "waiting for pickup at
    the local post office." whatever...

    --
    Joe.

    "you're an electronic girl...i'm a rock guy...i don't think we have a
    chance." - storm&stress
  12. Mark Polis

    Mark Polis Guest

    That's been my experience with UPS as well - a truly great company. Minimal
    problems in all the years I've shipped UPS.
    --
    --
    o-----« Mark Polis b.d.bop@suscom.net »-----o

    "You play because you must." - drummer Tony Williams
    --
    --

    "-sTu-" <kthalstu@covad.net> wrote in message
    news:bhhojt$q9rr$1@ID-180781.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > The company I work for ships delicate instruments through UPS and rarely

    has
    > ever had a problem (1 out of 100,000 packages). We ship something near
    > 4,000-10,000 packages a day through UPS. In the various jobs I've had in

    my
    > company I have shipped hundreds of packages and equipment via UPS and

    never
    > had a problem with damage. I don't know what you've seen but for me UPS is

    a
    > great service.
    >
    > --
    > -sTu-
    >
    > ...and I'll never go to Sacramento again.
    > - Nick (Soulbelly) of RMMP
    >
    > "NoSheeples" <n2new@aol.comNsheep> wrote in message
    > news:20030814225506.02463.00000006@mb-m23.aol.com...
    > > >
    > > >Not only do I work for UPS but I ship through UPS too and I've never
    > > >heard of such a requirement. Maybe you got a clerk that is misinformed.

    > >
    > > I don't expect you to share with us how they treat packages. I know

    people
    > who
    > > work for UPs to. Here is what they say.
    > > Your on your own! They throw packages from 10 feet on to a conveyor.

    They
    > are
    > > under the gun so bad that damage is a secondary concern. Further they

    have
    > a
    > > hidden policy. A claim is a bitch to get paid. The common exuse is that

    > you
    > > didn't
    > > pack it right. Read the fine print and you will see that proper

    packaging
    > is
    > > somthing they define, not you. They can make a call. UPS is

    horrible,
    > and
    > > has a dismal
    > > record when it comes to handling packages. USPS never damages my

    > packages, I
    > > have shipped hundreds with no trouble. About one on 10 with UPS will get

    > some
    > > type of damage.
    > >
    > > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty

    > is
    > > a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
    > >

    >
    >
  13. -sTu- <kthalstu@covad.net> wrote:
    > The company I work for ships delicate instruments through UPS and rarely has
    > ever had a problem (1 out of 100,000 packages). We ship something near
    > 4,000-10,000 packages a day through UPS. In the various jobs I've had in my
    > company I have shipped hundreds of packages and equipment via UPS and never
    > had a problem with damage. I don't know what you've seen but for me UPS is a
    > great service.


    How much is UPS PR paying you to say this? I don't know what you call
    "delicate" or how you pack them, but I can say for a FACT that if they
    can't stand being pitched from the rear of a semitrailer up to a pile in
    the front of it, you are going to get damage. The days of gently carrying
    a package over and carefully stacking it are long gone! Been there saw
    it with my own eyes!

    And why did I see it? Well that was because of the policy of
    my local UPS driver to ring the bell, put the "third delivery
    notice" on the door (even though it was the FIRST delivery) and
    race off before you could even open the door. Your only chance
    was to spot the truck up the street first and have the door
    open when he got there.

    So normal was to have to drive to the UPS hub to find your package.
    Usually it was lost and they take me in the back to dig through
    a package pile to see if I could spot it. And it was in the
    back where all those package-torture S & M setups greeted
    my innocent eyes! Yeah, I usually found my box and yeah, it
    was usually packed well enough to be OK...BUT

    However, the good news has been that with the new policy of just
    dumping packages in your yard without signing for them, I
    haven't been to the hub lately. Of course they did deliver
    my new conga drum one street over leaving it on a porch on the
    street corner where it quickly disappeared. The dummies even
    noted on their own sheets that they left it one street over!
    Where do they find these people! At least that quickly terminated
    their "investigation" as to what *I* did with the package!
    Now I DO support the policy of distributing free conga drums
    around my neighborhood, it's just that I'd rather not be the
    one paying for it. :) Happily the store put it right and shipped
    another pronto. But no thanks to UPS.

    It basically isn't a bad outfit, it's just that as usual
    mangagment greed has greatly impacted quality of service.

    If your shipment if ready for an NFL drop-kick then probably
    UPS will work for you. Otherwise they suck.

    Benj

    --
    SPAM-Guard! Remove .users (if present) to email me!
  14. PeriscopeR

    PeriscopeR Guest

    In the last month I have had two busted bass drums- one from UPS and one from
    Fed Ex.

    e

    Subject: Re: F**K UPS!!!! (United Parcel Service)
    From: "Mark Polis" <A HREF="mailto:b.d.bop@suscom.net">b.d.bop@suscom.net</A>
    Date: Fri, Aug 15, 2003 4:07 AM
    Message-id: <vjpfnd6kr73108@corp.supernews.com>

    That's been my experience with UPS as well - a truly great company. Minimal
    problems in all the years I've shipped UPS.
    --
    --
    o-----« Mark Polis b.d.bop@suscom.net »-----o

    "You play because you must." - drummer Tony Williams
    --
    --

    "-sTu-" <kthalstu@covad.net> wrote in message
    news:bhhojt$q9rr$1@ID-180781.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > The company I work for ships delicate instruments through UPS and rarely

    has
    > ever had a problem (1 out of 100,000 packages). We ship something near
    > 4,000-10,000 packages a day through UPS. In the various jobs I've had in

    my
    > company I have shipped hundreds of packages and equipment via UPS and

    never
    > had a problem with damage. I don't know what you've seen but for me UPS is

    a
    > great service.
    >
    > --
    > -sTu-
    >
    > ...and I'll never go to Sacramento again.
    > - Nick (Soulbelly) of RMMP
    >
    > "NoSheeples" <n2new@aol.comNsheep> wrote in message
    > news:20030814225506.02463.00000006@mb-m23.aol.com...
    > > >
    > > >Not only do I work for UPS but I ship through UPS too and I've never
    > > >heard of such a requirement. Maybe you got a clerk that is misinformed.

    > >
    > > I don't expect you to share with us how they treat packages. I know

    people
    > who
    > > work for UPs to. Here is what they say.
    > > Your on your own! They throw packages from 10 feet on to a conveyor.

    They
    > are
    > > under the gun so bad that damage is a secondary concern. Further they

    have
    > a
    > > hidden policy. A claim is a bitch to get paid. The common exuse is that

    > you
    > > didn't
    > > pack it right. Read the fine print and you will see that proper

    packaging
    > is
    > > somthing they define, not you. They can make a call. UPS is

    horrible,
    > and
    > > has a dismal
    > > record when it comes to handling packages. USPS never damages my

    > packages, I
    > > have shipped hundreds with no trouble. About one on 10 with UPS will get

    > some
    > > type of damage.
    > >
    > > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty

    > is
    > > a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
    > >

    >
    >
  15. How are they going to know the difference? The box says "ORION 19"
    Television" in big red , white & blue letters.

    In article <HFV_a.19311$zE1.11518@edtnps84>, Hairy Pants
    <drakor@telus.net> wrote:

    > Just tell them it IS the original packaging. How are they gonna know the
    > difference?
    > "Rev. Poindexter" <poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com> wrote in message
    > news:140820031740277473%poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com...
    > > I've had it with these bozos. I made the trek today to send some items
    > > out and they inform me at the desk, " We can't insure any items that
    > > aren't in their original packaging."
    > > WTF??? A 20 year old drum I wanted to insure for $200-- well packed
    > > with 3 inches of insulation on all sides and they say NO?
    > >
    > > I guess it's Fed Ex from here on out.
    > >
    > > What a bunch of morons.
    > >
    > > RP
    > >
    > > --
    > > Rev. Poindexter (masquerading as Scott Logsdon) -

    > rev@NOSPAMsonormuseum.com
    > > visit the Unofficial Sonor Virtual Museum --- www.sonormuseum.com
    > > ** - ** - ** - ** - **
    > > Frank Zappa isn't dead, he just smells funny

    >
    >
  16. In article <hlupino-9A5E9C.21434214082003@news04.east.earthlink.net>,
    Edward W Warshauer <hlupino@mindspring.com> wrote:

    > In article <slrnbjo2vc.dkf.jmelnyk@localhost.localdomain>,
    > joem <jmelnyk@REMOVE_THIS_PARTcs.kent.edu> wrote:
    >
    > > Rev. Poindexter wanted everyone in rec.music.makers.percussion to know that
    > > > I've had it with these bozos. I made the trek today to send some items
    > > > out and they inform me at the desk, " We can't insure any items that
    > > > aren't in their original packaging."

    > >
    > > since when?

    >
    > Not only do I work for UPS but I ship through UPS too and I've never
    > heard of such a requirement. Maybe you got a clerk that is misinformed.
    >
    > ED W


    I not only dealt with the clerk, I demanded to see the manager - he
    parrotted the same stance. "If the item isn't in its original packaging
    they won't insure it for more than $100." I put the drum in a
    television box with at least 2" of packing material on all sides. This
    is nuts.

    What's worse is when I called Fed Ex to schedule a pickup the operator
    told me the same thing - Unless I ship "EXPRESS". What a racket!!

    RP
  17. JaKe

    JaKe Guest

    PeriscopeR wrote:
    >
    > In the last month I have had two busted bass drums- one from UPS and one from
    > Fed Ex.
    >
    > e
    >


    Busted in what way?

    --
    JaKe, Seattle
    "The monk bought lunch"
    Jim Morrison
  18. I have collected more than $100 insurance from UPS for items that weren't in
    original packing. If you do it online it doesn't matter. The original
    packaging thing isn't brought up. They sell me the insurance and I collect
    if need be.

    As far as who is better or worse, UPS, USPS and FedEx have all torn up
    shipments to and from me. USPS is the worst about losing things. I only ship
    with them for media rate, international or if the customer requires it.

    --
    George Lawrence
    George's Drum Shop
    1351 S. Cleveland-Massillon Road #21
    Copley, Ohio 44321
    http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
    http://www.Drumguru.com
    330 670 0800
    toll free 866 970 0800

    "If thine enemy wrong thee,
    buy each of his children a drum."
    -Chinese proverb




    "Rev. Poindexter" <poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com> wrote in message
    news:140820031740277473%poindexter@NOSPAMsubgenius.com...
    > I've had it with these bozos. I made the trek today to send some items
    > out and they inform me at the desk, " We can't insure any items that
    > aren't in their original packaging."
    > WTF??? A 20 year old drum I wanted to insure for $200-- well packed
    > with 3 inches of insulation on all sides and they say NO?
    >
    > I guess it's Fed Ex from here on out.
    >
    > What a bunch of morons.
    >
    > RP
    >
    > --
    > Rev. Poindexter (masquerading as Scott Logsdon) -

    rev@NOSPAMsonormuseum.com
    > visit the Unofficial Sonor Virtual Museum --- www.sonormuseum.com
    > ** - ** - ** - ** - **
    > Frank Zappa isn't dead, he just smells funny
  19. Nosheeples,there is no reason to throw a package to the belt.
    When a trailer gets unloaded the belt is brought right into the
    trailer.When package cars get loaded its just a few steps from
    the belt into the package car which has to be neatly loaded in a
    speficic order.

    Not only that there are supervisors everywhere and they will
    not tolerate abusive handling of packages. Finally,too many
    packages are just too heavy to throw :)
    Generally,when damage occurs its because a belt jams up and
    something is going to get crunched because of the weight of all
    the packages pushing up against the jam.

    ED W

    In article <vjpfnd6kr73108@corp.supernews.com>,
    "Mark Polis" <b.d.bop@suscom.net> wrote:

    > That's been my experience with UPS as well - a truly great company. Minimal
    > problems in all the years I've shipped UPS.
    > --
    > --
    > o-----« Mark Polis b.d.bop@suscom.net »-----o
    >
    > "You play because you must." - drummer Tony Williams
    > --
    > --
    >
    > "-sTu-" <kthalstu@covad.net> wrote in message
    > news:bhhojt$q9rr$1@ID-180781.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > > The company I work for ships delicate instruments through UPS and rarely

    > has
    > > ever had a problem (1 out of 100,000 packages). We ship something near
    > > 4,000-10,000 packages a day through UPS. In the various jobs I've had in

    > my
    > > company I have shipped hundreds of packages and equipment via UPS and

    > never
    > > had a problem with damage. I don't know what you've seen but for me UPS is

    > a
    > > great service.
    > >
    > > --
    > > -sTu-
    > >
    > > ...and I'll never go to Sacramento again.
    > > - Nick (Soulbelly) of RMMP
    > >
    > > "NoSheeples" <n2new@aol.comNsheep> wrote in message
    > > news:20030814225506.02463.00000006@mb-m23.aol.com...
    > > > >
    > > > >Not only do I work for UPS but I ship through UPS too and I've never
    > > > >heard of such a requirement. Maybe you got a clerk that is misinformed.
    > > >
    > > > I don't expect you to share with us how they treat packages. I know

    > people
    > > who
    > > > work for UPs to. Here is what they say.
    > > > Your on your own! They throw packages from 10 feet on to a conveyor.

    > They
    > > are
    > > > under the gun so bad that damage is a secondary concern. Further they

    > have
    > > a
    > > > hidden policy. A claim is a bitch to get paid. The common exuse is that

    > > you
    > > > didn't
    > > > pack it right. Read the fine print and you will see that proper

    > packaging
    > > is
    > > > somthing they define, not you. They can make a call. UPS is

    > horrible,
    > > and
    > > > has a dismal
    > > > record when it comes to handling packages. USPS never damages my

    > > packages, I
    > > > have shipped hundreds with no trouble. About one on 10 with UPS will get

    > > some
    > > > type of damage.
    > > >
    > > > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty

    > > is
    > > > a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  20. rknrne

    rknrne Active Member

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    It all comes down to training the right monkey for the job doesn't it ? How these hidden camera tv shows expose the brutality of shipping & (handling) really makes me wonder how any of these companies think they'll survive the next 20 years. It's why they were formed in the first place because of postal abuse through theft and mis-handling.

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