Finally

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by Steve K, Aug 15, 2003.

  1. Steve K

    Steve K Guest

    This is sort of an update on our ongoing audition that isn't ongoing
    anymore.

    We tried a guy out last night for the second time. Even songs we know
    aren't his style he nailed (Goo Goo Dolls, Creed, etc.) So we were very
    impressed. The songs that were in his style he double-nailed (Foghat,
    Mellencamp, classic rock, etc.) We played songs last night that have
    never sounded better.

    I have been waiting and waiting (10 years) to play with a drummer of
    this caliber. He knows enough about how music and songs work to make his
    way through songs he never heard before (Sister Luck, Black Crowes) and
    play it better than our old drummer. I know that sounds like an easy
    thing to have found before this, but it wasn't.

    He leads us into endings, singing is easier, playing solos is easier
    cause it's finally in the pocket!!!

    He may only stay with us for 4 months (his reputation) but it'll be
    worth it. Maybe we are what he's been looking for and vice versa.

    Oh, did I mention he can sing! Sounds just like Mellencamp.

    Thanks for listening.

    Steve

    If you are interested, this is the band: sundogrocks.com
    The new guy isn't up there yet.
  2. Aaron Draper

    Aaron Draper Guest

    That sounds great! And I love the songs you're doing, too. I would love to
    be in a band like that. Good luck.

    --
    Aaron Draper
    www.baileyscomet.net
    ----------
    "Does he think he's Ponce d' Moongel?"
    -Sam Savoca
    Steve K wrote in message ...
    >This is sort of an update on our ongoing audition that isn't ongoing
    >anymore.
    >
    >We tried a guy out last night for the second time. Even songs we know
    >aren't his style he nailed (Goo Goo Dolls, Creed, etc.) So we were very
    >impressed. The songs that were in his style he double-nailed (Foghat,
    >Mellencamp, classic rock, etc.) We played songs last night that have
    >never sounded better.
    >
    >I have been waiting and waiting (10 years) to play with a drummer of
    >this caliber. He knows enough about how music and songs work to make his
    >way through songs he never heard before (Sister Luck, Black Crowes) and
    >play it better than our old drummer. I know that sounds like an easy
    >thing to have found before this, but it wasn't.
    >
    >He leads us into endings, singing is easier, playing solos is easier
    >cause it's finally in the pocket!!!
    >
    >He may only stay with us for 4 months (his reputation) but it'll be
    >worth it. Maybe we are what he's been looking for and vice versa.
    >
    >Oh, did I mention he can sing! Sounds just like Mellencamp.
    >
    >Thanks for listening.
    >
    >Steve
    >
    >If you are interested, this is the band: sundogrocks.com
    >The new guy isn't up there yet.
  3. Doug Fuller

    Doug Fuller Guest

    "Steve K" <smk17@cornell.edu> wrote:
    >
    > We played songs last night that have
    > never sounded better.
    >
    > He leads us into endings, singing is easier, playing solos is easier
    > cause it's finally in the pocket!!!


    I'm very intrigued by this. Can you expand on anything specific that this
    guys does that others haven't? Does he just play the grooves differently,
    does he play the same grooves but with a different feel somehow, is it how
    he plays things other than the grooves that set him apart, etc.?

    Any input is appreciated.
    --
    Cheers,
    Doug Fuller
    Boston
    doug_fuller_62@earthlink.net (remove all underscores)
    "It's all in the mama-daddies."
  4. Steve K

    Steve K Guest

    In article <8jX%a.27937$vo2.26384@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
    "Doug Fuller" <doug_fuller_62@earthlink.net(remove_underscores)> wrote:

    Well, I'm not sure I can answer that. The only way to explain it would
    be to play you a tape of before (old drummer) and after (new drummer).
    He's just better.

    Now this is coming from a guitar player (me) so my drumming vocabulary
    isn't up to par. Our old drummer seemed to "rush to one." It's not that
    his tempo was too fast he just rushed through measures‹‹‹I guess that is
    bad tempo after all.

    His kit is nicer, his cymbols are nicer, his snare is 400% better. We
    can hear/feel the bass drum drum. He makes the song come alive instead
    of it running on life support.

    His grooves are the same I guess, just more excited, alive and punchy.



    > "Steve K" <smk17@cornell.edu> wrote:
    > >
    > > We played songs last night that have
    > > never sounded better.
    > >
    > > He leads us into endings, singing is easier, playing solos is easier
    > > cause it's finally in the pocket!!!

    >
    > I'm very intrigued by this. Can you expand on anything specific that this
    > guys does that others haven't? Does he just play the grooves differently,
    > does he play the same grooves but with a different feel somehow, is it how
    > he plays things other than the grooves that set him apart, etc.?
    >
    > Any input is appreciated.
    > --
    > Cheers,
    > Doug Fuller
    > Boston
    > doug_fuller_62@earthlink.net (remove all underscores)
    > "It's all in the mama-daddies."
    >
    >
  5. -MIKE-

    -MIKE- Guest

    Steve K <smk17@cornell.edu> wrote:

    > Well, I'm not sure I can answer that. The only way to explain it would
    > be to play you a tape of before (old drummer) and after (new drummer).
    > He's just better.
    >
    > Now this is coming from a guitar player (me) so my drumming vocabulary
    > isn't up to par. Our old drummer seemed to "rush to one." It's not that
    > his tempo was too fast he just rushed through measures‹‹‹I guess that is
    > bad tempo after all.
    >
    > His kit is nicer, his cymbols are nicer, his snare is 400% better. We
    > can hear/feel the bass drum drum. He makes the song come alive instead
    > of it running on life support.
    >
    > His grooves are the same I guess, just more excited, alive and punchy.



    That's a perfectly fine explanation. I'm guessing he would've
    sounded better on your old drummer's gear, too. :)


    -MIKE-

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    mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
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  6. Doug Fuller

    Doug Fuller Guest

    "Steve K" <smk17@cornell.edu> wrote:
    >
    > The only way to explain it would
    > be to play you a tape of before (old drummer) and after (new drummer).
    > He's just better.


    That's a fine explanation, actually. Any chance I could hear a before and
    after comparison? :)

    > Now this is coming from a guitar player (me) so my drumming vocabulary
    > isn't up to par. Our old drummer seemed to "rush to one." It's not that
    > his tempo was too fast he just rushed through measures‹‹‹I guess that is
    > bad tempo after all.


    That makes sense. I find myself doing it at times and it's something I work
    on improving.

    > His kit is nicer, his cymbols are nicer, his snare is 400% better. We
    > can hear/feel the bass drum drum.


    This is GREAT information! I guess it's good to know that all the money we
    spend on equipment can be worth it :)

    > He makes the song come alive instead
    > of it running on life support.
    > His grooves are the same I guess, just more excited, alive and punchy.


    This brings to mind a conversation I had with a top professional bass player
    the other day. He knows I'm a drummer-wannabe so he was giving me his take
    on things. One point he made was nailing the one. He also said that once
    the one is established, everything around it is the music. Interesting
    concept.

    He also spoke of a couple things you did, that is when the drummer is right
    on his job becomes easier, which in turn makes everyone else's easier. When
    he doesn't feel the drummer is really nailing it he compensates by
    overplaying and things unravel from there.

    He also told me a number of stories that perhaps I'll share when I have a
    minute or two -- gotta run...

    --
    Cheers,
    Doug Fuller
    Boston
    doug_fuller_62@earthlink.net (remove all underscores)
    "It's all in the mama-daddies."
  7. Steve K

    Steve K Guest

    In article <d4p0b.1136$yQ3.694@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Doug
    Fuller" <doug_fuller_62@earthlink.net(remove_underscores)> wrote:

    > "Steve K" <smk17@cornell.edu> wrote:
    > >

    > That's a fine explanation, actually. Any chance I could hear a before
    > and
    > after comparison? :)


    Give us about 2 months. We need a new demo since the one on the website
    has our old bass player and now our old drummer on it. I'll let you know.
    >



    This new guy, all he talks about is "Guys don't worry what I do, I'll
    find one, just don't worry about that! I'll come back in on one."

    Later

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