First Woman President?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by The JoZ, Jul 29, 2003.

  1. The JoZ

    The JoZ New Member

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    Ok Felida, I finally have something worth saying ;)

    I've been reading alot on politics lately, and about the contenders for nominations for the '04 race...

    Out of the nine Democratic candidates seeking nomination, one of them happens to be a woman. An African American woman at that. Carol Moseley Braun appears to be making some serious strides towards said nomination...she seems like she could be, in my view, a strong leader.

    What are your views? Would you support a (qualified) woman president? Would you vote for her, if you felt she met your needs)


    http://www.moseley-braun.org/index.html is her website, if anyone is interested

    If you don't live in the U.S, this thread will probably make no sense to you..:thumbsup:
  2. edsizzles

    edsizzles New Member

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    yes

    I would support a wonam president.
  3. Pol

    Pol Stuck on the M1 <img src="images/smilies/shakehead Staff Member Super Mod

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    Why not a woman president ?.....if i thought she was good enough i'd vote for her....though i'm not American so my opinion means little
  4. Felida

    Felida Sex Kitten

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    *lol* sorry Joz .. I didn't spot this thread before now. I don't live in the U.S. But the concept is valid where ever you live.

    I would have no problems regarding a Woman President as long as she was up for the job, as regards Carol Moseley Braun, from what I have (now) read in her website .. it seems she is making a stand for the minorities.

    I agree with one of her points .. too much money has been spent on needless wars, I agree with another .. quote below:

    I also agree with another letter she wrote to the Washington Times, regarding the Health Care System:

    Statement on Health Care for America

    So far so good.. I explored her Website further I found this:

    .. The Issues Section: and within that the Letter she wrote to the Chicago Sun Times:


    I am not at all sure I do completely support "Affirmative Action" .. as it has been explained to me .. don't misunderstand me here, I am not saying that I don't agree with the idea behind it I do, I believe that EVERYONE should have an EQUAL chance.

    A lot of what she is saying seems to make sense but in practice ...

    The answer, is most certainly NOT to artificially bump up grades or to dumb down levels, so more people can have a chance to acquire a virtually meaningless grade.

    There HAS to be a system where excellence gains the merit it deserves, it should NOT be dependant on colour, creed or by knowing the right social set !

    If the people with the higher qualifications are consistently passed by because they have the wrong skin colour be it BLACK, WHITE, RED OR YELLOW .. or whatever is the politically correct colour then God or Gods helps us all !

    So .. that is all I have to say on this matter, she is not the right candidate for me at this moment, but then .. I haven't had a chance to look at the manifestos of the other candidates.

    I do not intend to start a political slanging war here, so this will be the only post I make in this thread, I am anyway not entitled to make comments on how another country runs its affairs, and I certainly don't think highly of the way Britain handles its own affairs.

    Suffice to say, I am not and never will be a highly motivated political animal .. I am far too disillusioned by the whole process
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  5. Pol

    Pol Stuck on the M1 <img src="images/smilies/shakehead Staff Member Super Mod

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    Holy Mother of..... when you post you sure make it count Felida....lol
  6. The JoZ

    The JoZ New Member

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    Well, I can agree and disagree with Affirmative Action...

    There was a ruling on a michigan law school..which had their points system struck down, however, they were allowed to look at race as a factor in their admissions process or something like that...meaning simply that if two equally qualified candidates are applying, and one is of minority status, that can be *considered* in part of the process..

    I didn't post about Mrs Braun thinking everyone would just think, Hey she's a woman, I'm voting for her. I'm doing my homework before I head to the polls in a little more than a year from now. I honestly have no problem with a person, man or woman, sticking up for minority rights. However, if she starts acting like the NAACP, she won't get my vote...

    It's all about the issues for me. I can agree to disagree, you know? I highly doubt that any one candidate can "fit the bill", so to say, 100%...I will always disagree with someone, on something...we'll never always get what we want, all the time..
  7. Felida

    Felida Sex Kitten

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    Yes, fair comments, I certainly appreciated a lot of what she was saying made sense .. but then .. isn't that always the way of politicians .. make the promises .. and then find themselves either unwilling or unable to deliver ?

    I don't know what the answers are either .. you are doing the best thing in my humble and unaware opinion, and by that I mean, you are concerned, and you are doing your homework on the candidates .. and you are making a considered choice, choosing the best of the issues .. it is true you will never find a candidate who fit the bill 100% .. and I also have no problems with any individual who sticks up for minority rights .. so often the so called minorities are often the silent majority anyway !

    Good for you Joz, and an interesting topic you put up as well !
  8. hickhamt

    hickhamt New Member

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    wow... very elequent... are you in politics??
  9. The JoZ

    The JoZ New Member

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    I feel it's the only way to vote. Half the time, people make their decisions based on whatever the public opinion is at the time. They are like lemmings, and I shall not become one...I'll know who I'm voting for, and what they stand for..

    I'm surprised more people don't do it. I mean, I can imagine there is a large number of people who do, but for that large number there is an equally large, if not larger number who vote apathetically, yet do nothing but moan when the candidate-elect doesn't do things the way *they* want them to be done.

    I don't think it's the intention of the politician, all the time, to fail to act on his or her platform issues. For example...our last Governor's platform was strongly based on his desire to eliminate our car tax...to phase out at lesat 70% by said time period, et. al. Well, there were plenty of instances in the news where he made plenty of strides to do so...but the General Assembly, and other governing bodies would not have it. See, what many people (not saying you) probably don't understand is that candidates can make all the promises they want. No president will ever accomplish everything on his or her agenda..because the Legislative Branch (Congress, the Senate, etc) may have other plans. The strength of such promises can be seen in the efforts of the candidate...but...you can promise them the world...but what they really ought to promise is that they will campaign in an attempt to give them said world...
  10. koz

    koz New Member

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    hi

    I dont think it has anything to do being woman or man..Just who can get the job done :thumbsup:
  11. RaelianMenor

    RaelianMenor New Member

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    I think that a woman could be a fine president- Potentially. I don't think that this woman has much of a chance, though, for a variety of reasons, and it kind of got me thinking.

    Why is there only one woman prominently running for Democratic nomination? In this day of "equal rights", shouldn't there be a more equal number of candidates?

    The problem with having more women candidates, though, is that they will inevitably be forced to share their constituents. Not to sound sexist, but, when a woman runs for president, some people will inevitably vote for her because she is a woman, and some will inevitably *not* vote for her because she is a woman. Not to say that these roles are assigned, of course...

    Case in point- We won't see an American Woman president for quite some time, because of the difficulty of simultaneously getting publicity and not needing to share votes.
  12. JGJD2002

    JGJD2002 New Member

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    Yes in the UK we had the first Woman Prime Minister and she was a great leader who was strong minded so I think it woul be great for a Woman President of the U.S.A

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