FS: Weber CA 12" speaker

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by Jack A. Zucker, Aug 21, 2003.

  1. Very low hours, not even broken in yet. Exc+ condition, $70 shipped within
    the continental US.

    Jaz

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  2. Re: Weber CA 12" speaker

    P.S.

    Ceramic magnet, paper dust cap
    "Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
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    > Very low hours, not even broken in yet. Exc+ condition, $70 shipped within
    > the continental US.
    >
    > Jaz
    >
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  3. Chip L

    Chip L Guest

    Re: Weber CA 12" speaker

    FWIW - for those wanting to get more clean headroom out of a dirty amp (ala
    Fender Deluxe Reverb) no mod will help more that upgrading to a high
    efficiency speaker like this. This is Ted Weber's version of the JBL D120F.
    I've done about every mod there is to clean up a DR and the speaker change
    (to this speaker) was by far the most effective. This is a very good price
    also.

    Chip L


    "Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
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    > P.S.
    >
    > Ceramic magnet, paper dust cap
    > "Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
    > news:LLa1b.14105$2Y6.4407916@news2.news.adelphia.net...
    > > Very low hours, not even broken in yet. Exc+ condition, $70 shipped

    within
    > > the continental US.
    > >
    > > Jaz
    > >
    > > --
    > > http://www.jackzucker.com
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  4. Re: Weber CA 12" speaker

    > FWIW - for those wanting to get more clean headroom out of a dirty amp (ala
    > Fender Deluxe Reverb) no mod will help more that upgrading to a high
    > efficiency speaker like this. This is Ted Weber's version of the JBL D120F.
    > I've done about every mod there is to clean up a DR and the speaker change
    > (to this speaker) was by far the most effective. This is a very good price


    If if any corroboration, I've found the 10" Cali to be the same: a
    "better D110", esp w/ ceramic & paper, and delivering the same
    described results in 10" applications. Nor would I consider a
    "warmer" version for these old amps, which have enough of their own
    warmth. The Cali is a colorless, clean, toneless spkr that faithfully
    delivers whatever one's amp, axe & hands are doing. Sort of "the JBL
    that never was." Made my PR play & deliver like a stock VR.
  5. Re: Weber CA 12" speaker

    <lbrty4us@aol.com> wrote in message
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    > The Cali is a colorless, clean, toneless spkr that faithfully


    TONELESS!?! I wouldn't go that far! :)
  6. Re: Weber CA 12" speaker

    The eminence Delta 12A is also a great speaker for this purpose. It, like
    the weber is fairly bright. I think the Eminence has a more flat response
    but the weber is more guitaristic and fendery.

    I'm interested in the chicago speaker because the California has a bit too
    much brightness, particularly with humbucking pickups. It doesn't have a
    very smooth overdrive...It's a tough decision though because the california
    sounds fabulous with a strat...

    "Chip L" <longcDELETETHIS@infoave.net> wrote in message
    news:bi52ig$5auiq$1@ID-77822.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > FWIW - for those wanting to get more clean headroom out of a dirty amp

    (ala
    > Fender Deluxe Reverb) no mod will help more that upgrading to a high
    > efficiency speaker like this. This is Ted Weber's version of the JBL

    D120F.
    > I've done about every mod there is to clean up a DR and the speaker change
    > (to this speaker) was by far the most effective. This is a very good

    price
    > also.
    >
    > Chip L
    >
    >
    > "Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
    > news:cYm1b.14331$2Y6.4556258@news2.news.adelphia.net...
    > > P.S.
    > >
    > > Ceramic magnet, paper dust cap
    > > "Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
    > > news:LLa1b.14105$2Y6.4407916@news2.news.adelphia.net...
    > > > Very low hours, not even broken in yet. Exc+ condition, $70 shipped

    > within
    > > > the continental US.
    > > >
    > > > Jaz
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > http://www.jackzucker.com
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  7. Re: Weber CA 12" speaker

    "Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message news:<gwQ2b.18748$2Y6.5800782@news2.news.adelphia.net>...

    > I'm interested in the chicago speaker because the California has a bit too
    > much brightness, particularly with humbucking pickups. It doesn't have a
    > very smooth overdrive...It's a tough decision though because the california
    > sounds fabulous with a strat...


    Interesting how performance can vary from player to player. In my
    case, I never found any older Fender amp that sounded less than
    depressing with any humbucker axe, except the SR - possibly related to
    its 4x10". But presently with a Cali in my PR, when fed with a bridge
    'bucker axe (i.e, a '57-type bucker), when the amp is overdriven the
    result is very smooth indeed, and with a great deal of touch control.
    Since these are 80w spkrs, we ought to remember that there isn't any
    spkr overdrive at all (smooth or otherwise) in the amps being spoken
    of, so any complaint (or compliment) we have with its overdriven sound
    must be amp- or -guitar-related.

    BTW, by "toneless", I meant "no tonality of its own - colorless &
    accurate"
  8. Andrew Hoyt

    Andrew Hoyt Guest

    Re: Weber CA 12" speaker

    "Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message news:<gwQ2b.18748$2Y6.5800782@news2.news.adelphia.net>...
    > The eminence Delta 12A is also a great speaker for this purpose. It, like
    > the weber is fairly bright. I think the Eminence has a more flat response
    > but the weber is more guitaristic and fendery.
    >
    > I'm interested in the chicago speaker because the California has a bit too
    > much brightness, particularly with humbucking pickups. It doesn't have a
    > very smooth overdrive...It's a tough decision though because the california
    > sounds fabulous with a strat...


    I have a 12" Weber Michigan (that replaced a very bright Weber C12Q).
    I believe the Michigan is Weber's take on the EVM-12L. I think it is
    great. Very smooth high end and very warm (in an Ampeg Reverberocket).
    I have not tried any other Webers.

    Andy Hoyt
  9. Chip L

    Chip L Guest

    Re: Weber CA 12" speaker

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    That one took me back also. How bout 'transparent'!

    Jack - whats been going on in AGA? Looks like a hornests nest over
    there....

    Chip L

    "Jack A. Zucker" <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in message
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    > <lbrty4us@aol.com> wrote in message
    > news:205ef942.0308250743.745ac2e5@posting.google.com...
    >
    > > The Cali is a colorless, clean, toneless spkr that faithfully

    >
    > TONELESS!?! I wouldn't go that far! :)
    >
    >
  10. Re: Weber CA 12" speaker

    "Chip L" <longcDELETETHIS@infoave.net> wrote in message
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    > That one took me back also. How bout 'transparent'!
    >
    > Jack - whats been going on in AGA? Looks like a hornests nest over
    > there....


    It's the typical thing where there's a disagreement or two and as usual, I
    overreacted and became part or whole of the problem. The sad thing is that
    I've been on usenet since '88 but I never learn. I guess folks are right...I
    must really be an asshole! <g>

    Jaz
  11. JHT

    JHT Guest

    Re: Weber CA 12" speaker

    Jack A. Zucker <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in article <koc3b.19449$2Y6.6077336@news2.news.adelphia.net>...

    > I agree to a point but a while back, I had a '66 pro reverb in which I
    > installed a '60s bassman output transformer. It sounded amazing through a
    > closed 2x12 cab with greenbacks and with a Les Paul....


    I have been preaching the virtues of the Bassman amp and a Les Paul fer long time, my man.

    And channel jumped with volumes cranked...WOW! I just love the sound of that rippin Bassman head and a Les Paul...sustains like a
    mo-fo too...no wonder its the circuit Marshall used.

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  12. Chip L

    Chip L Guest

    Re: Weber CA 12" speaker


    > It's the typical thing where there's a disagreement or two and as usual, I
    > overreacted and became part or whole of the problem. The sad thing is that
    > I've been on usenet since '88 but I never learn. I guess folks are

    right...I
    > must really be an asshole! <g>
    >
    > Jaz


    I'm at the point where I hesitate posting anything anywhere. Like here -
    beginners will ask "What songs should I learn" Well, they should learn
    simple, common standards. And we tell them they should learn ATTYA?

    I'm certainly not a pro or a great jazzer, but I do remember when I didn't
    know ANYTHING!

    I know this has very little to do w/ anything, but I just had to vent a
    little. Hey, maybe I'm an asshole!

    Chip
  13. Re: Weber CA 12" speaker

    "JHT" <NobodyUpstairs@DELETEaol.com> wrote in message news:<01c36d11$0b4be260$a2a6580c@715162529worldnet.att.net>...
    > Jack A. Zucker <jaz@jackzucker.com> wrote in article <koc3b.19449$2Y6.6077336@news2.news.adelphia.net>...
    >
    > > I agree to a point but a while back, I had a '66 pro reverb in which I
    > > installed a '60s bassman output transformer. It sounded amazing through a
    > > closed 2x12 cab with greenbacks and with a Les Paul....

    >
    > I have been preaching the virtues of the Bassman amp and a Les Paul fer long time, my man.
    >
    > And channel jumped with volumes cranked...WOW! I just love the sound of that rippin Bassman head and a Les Paul...sustains like a
    > mo-fo too...no wonder its the circuit Marshall used.


    But I was talking about a pro reverb, not a bassman!

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