Guitar Center Orlando's Labor Day Event!

>Even with a baseball bat your sorry little AOL ass would not stand a chance.
>Butch up moron.

Just as I thought. Pussy.

>Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY fucking
>moron has to use AOL?

Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!

Re: Re: Guitar Center Orlando's Labor Day Event!

"Mike McKernan" <mikemck333@optonline.net> wrote in message

> >And how about the "extended warrantees' that are shorter than the
> >original manufacturer's?
> >
> >I'm all better now. It's all good. I love you, man.
>
> My favorite scam is actually advertising a decent price on a Fender,
> for example, but then claiming that the case costs extra...even though
> Fender sells them with cases and includes the case price in their
> MSRP.

I walked on the purchase of a new Strat-o-Sonic over this very issue last
week. I will NOT pay for the case for an American Fender guitar.

"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
news:bdm4lv43pa8ibgo59rc05t2k2kv77vi18q@4ax.com...
> Man, I haven't seen so much whining since the Fender thread!
>
> Some of you don't want to shop at GC, that's fine. I've had nothing
> but good experiences shopping at the big chain stores like Sam Ash and
> Mars. A hell of a lot better experiences than shopping at locally
> owned stores. GC and Ash are in business because their owners were a
> little bit smarter than everyone else, so don't take it out on them
> because of it. Though I'm not crazy about them spamming the
> newsgroups, I welcome this new store and hope that they can do
> everything that the locally owned stores couldn't do.

You mean like alienate their customer base while taking advantage of those
who do make it through the door by bait & switch, ignorant but opinionated
sales staff, and vanishing store management?

"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
news:g435lv4tb6d8anb6h3fe5kfotfq1o8r3dr@4ax.com...
> >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY
fucking
> >moron has to use AOL?
>
> Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
> Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!

There's a long-arse line for that, Jimmy. Stand in line like the rest of
us. You can't cut in. Next time I'm in Phoenix I'm looking up Schuh so I
can see what he has. He talks more smack than a little bit.

>> >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY
>fucking
>> >moron has to use AOL?
>>
>> Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
>> Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!
>
>There's a long-arse line for that, Jimmy. Stand in line like the rest of
>us. You can't cut in. Next time I'm in Phoenix I'm looking up Schuh so I
>can see what he has. He talks more smack than a little bit.

LOL...Hope you videotape it. Who knows? Beating up Robert Schuh
might be next year's Star Wars Kid video!

BTW, I hear what you're saying about GC in your last message. I have
no experience with them, but Sam Ash does the same thing with the $3
cords and $20 boom stands. But I read the part that says "Offer only
valid with $300 purchase or more," and I realize, hey, maybe there's
less to this offer than meets the eye. And we've been fortunate in
Orlando that there's still more qualified people who need jobs than
there is jobs so the sales talent pool isn't quite as depleted as NY
or LA. Getting there, though

just@sk.me wrote...
>
> "Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
> > >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY
> > >fucking moron has to use AOL?
> >
> > Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
> > Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!
>
> There's a long-arse line for that, Jimmy. Stand in line like the rest of
> us. You can't cut in. Next time I'm in Phoenix I'm looking up Schuh so I
> can see what he has. He talks more smack than a little bit.

Man, I'd forgotten how much fun reading Usenet could be.

--
Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.

"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
news:7g95lvo11ii6vvnedalu41d2m3jpea5pv8@4ax.com...
> >> >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY
> >fucking
> >> >moron has to use AOL?
> >>
> >> Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
> >> Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!
> >
> >There's a long-arse line for that, Jimmy. Stand in line like the rest of
> >us. You can't cut in. Next time I'm in Phoenix I'm looking up Schuh so
I
> >can see what he has. He talks more smack than a little bit.
>
> LOL...Hope you videotape it. Who knows? Beating up Robert Schuh
> might be next year's Star Wars Kid video!

The Star Wars Kid video would be a lot more interesting, and besides it
would last longer too.

> BTW, I hear what you're saying about GC in your last message. I have
> no experience with them, but Sam Ash does the same thing with the $3
> cords and $20 boom stands. But I read the part that says "Offer only
> valid with $300 purchase or more," and I realize, hey, maybe there's
> less to this offer than meets the eye. And we've been fortunate in
> Orlando that there's still more qualified people who need jobs than
> there is jobs so the sales talent pool isn't quite as depleted as NY
> or LA. Getting there, though

From your lips...

In rec.music.makers.percussion Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:
> Man, I haven't seen so much whining since the Fender thread!

> Some of you don't want to shop at GC, that's fine. I've had nothing
> but good experiences shopping at the big chain stores like Sam Ash and
> Mars. A hell of a lot better experiences than shopping at locally
> owned stores. GC and Ash are in business because their owners were a
> little bit smarter than everyone else, so don't take it out on them
> because of it. Though I'm not crazy about them spamming the
> newsgroups, I welcome this new store and hope that they can do
> everything that the locally owned stores couldn't do.


Gosh Boom as usual you are spot on....NOT! When are you going to
put that beatup pre-CBS passive Fender down and use both hands
to remove your head from where the sun don't shine? "Owners a
a bit smarter than everyone else"! Gimme a break! I won't even
answer this. Just do a Google search on "Stores that Suck"
for a detailed description of all the "better shopping experiences"
you've seemed to have missed.

Benj

--
SPAM-Guard! Remove .users (if present) to email me!

In rec.music.makers.percussion Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote:

> Go fuck yourself. At least have to balls to post your name and your e mail
> if you going to talk shit. Take your head out of your ass.

Hey Rob,
Want some fun? Tell him you play bass and Fenders Suck.
(He's a "producer" who fires any bass play who plays
anything, but a pre-CBS Fender) Since I know how you
feel about bass guitars in general, you two should get
along famously! (already have a good start...tee hee)


Benj

--
SPAM-Guard! Remove .users (if present) to email me!

>Gosh Boom as usual you are spot on....NOT! When are you going to
>put that beatup pre-CBS passive Fender down and use both hands
>to remove your head from where the sun don't shine?

Better hope I don't. I might use it on you next.

>"Owners a
>a bit smarter than everyone else"! Gimme a break! I won't even
>answer this. Just do a Google search on "Stores that Suck"
>for a detailed description of all the "better shopping experiences"
>you've seemed to have missed.

Hey, just because others have had bad experiences there doesn't mean I
have. But then again, I guess you're everything to everyone, so how
dare I argue?

>Hey Rob,
>Want some fun? Tell him you play bass and Fenders Suck.
>(He's a "producer" who fires any bass play who plays
>anything, but a pre-CBS Fender)

You're an idiot. I never ever said such a thing. Not only did I not
say that, but in that very thread you are "referring to," I said
recorded many tracks using my Guitar Factory basses. So maybe the
next time you want to put words in my mouth, maybe you should take a
little bit of time to go through and seek out the truth. Then once
you have found the truth, go fuck yourself.

>Since I know how you
>feel about bass guitars in general, you two should get
>along famously! (already have a good start...tee hee)
>

"Tee hee?" Look, it's OK to be a homo if you want, but don't touch my
ass.

See, that's the problem. You shouldn't crosspost. You get drummers
and bass players in the same room and it hits the fan.


-MIKE-

--
http://mikedrums.com
mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply


>>Hey Rob,
>>Want some fun? Tell him you play bass and Fenders Suck.
>>(He's a "producer" who fires any bass play who plays
>>anything, but a pre-CBS Fender)
>
> You're an idiot. I never ever said such a thing. Not only did I not
> say that, but in that very thread you are "referring to," I said
> recorded many tracks using my Guitar Factory basses. So maybe the
> next time you want to put words in my mouth, maybe you should take a
> little bit of time to go through and seek out the truth. Then once
> you have found the truth, go fuck yourself.
>
>>Since I know how you
>>feel about bass guitars in general, you two should get
>>along famously! (already have a good start...tee hee)
>>
>
> "Tee hee?" Look, it's OK to be a homo if you want, but don't touch my
> ass.

There's no better place IMO to be able to check out gear for as long as
you'd like than a GC or Sam Ash. They don't bother you, and generally ask if
you need any help. When I was younger, the mom and pop shops had everything
hanging usually, and if you asked to check out an instrument, you were
usually watched by the owner standing right there while you played. You
certainly didn't feel like you had much time with him right there. With GC
and Sam Ash now, you walk in, and have a run of the place. They have a
decent stock of gear, and if you find something you like, you have the
choice of purchasing it anywhere you'd like. The 45 day return policy is
quite nice too. I wonder if mom and pop shops let you roam free and handle
everything for as long as you'd like these days, I haven't tried in many
years.
Just feel more comfortable at the bigger stores.

Jack

Jack
speaking from experience here , the " mom and pop " stores usally can not
afford if someone young comes in and rips down a 2000.00 les paul and starts
wanking on it ..... i have had kids drop custom shop strats thats cost over
2000.00 and just shrug it off ....the big chain stores just blow it off if
something gets damaged while the smaller retailers feel the hit , i had 2
custom shop fenders , a strat hanging directly over a custom shop tele, a
13nyear old kid came in , removed the card from the guitar that simply said
" please ask for help to play this guitar "
had trouble getting the guitar down and dropped it right into the custom
shop tele , bottom line ? over 1200.00 in custom paint work needed to be
done to make both of these guitars right !!!!! thats why small shop owners
stand over you when you come into there stores , i have at leist 1 damaged
guitar every 2 weeks just from someone who drops a guitar , or bangs an
acoustic off another ect ....and there is nothing i can do about it ,you
have to let people look and play your gear or you will never sell it ....
bottom line
"Jack" <Tarkus7no@spamoptonline.net> wrote in message
newsxB4b.77245$yg.24992680@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> There's no better place IMO to be able to check out gear for as long as
> you'd like than a GC or Sam Ash. They don't bother you, and generally ask
if
> you need any help. When I was younger, the mom and pop shops had
everything
> hanging usually, and if you asked to check out an instrument, you were
> usually watched by the owner standing right there while you played. You
> certainly didn't feel like you had much time with him right there. With GC
> and Sam Ash now, you walk in, and have a run of the place. They have a
> decent stock of gear, and if you find something you like, you have the
> choice of purchasing it anywhere you'd like. The 45 day return policy is
> quite nice too. I wonder if mom and pop shops let you roam free and handle
> everything for as long as you'd like these days, I haven't tried in many
> years.
> Just feel more comfortable at the bigger stores.
>
> Jack
>
>

>i had 2
>custom shop fenders , a strat hanging directly over a custom shop tele, a
>13nyear old kid came in , removed the card from the guitar that simply said
>" please ask for help to play this guitar "
>had trouble getting the guitar down and dropped it right into the custom
>shop tele , bottom line ? over 1200.00 in custom paint work needed to be
>done to make both of these guitars right !!!!!

That's a very ugly story, and I can see why you would be angry over
that. However, is there any reason you hang those guitars in that
fashion? Do you not have room behind the counter for really expensive
guitars? The onus is on you to protect your inventory. I know things
like that are bound to happen sometimes, but displaying your inventory
safely is your responsibility as a dealer. Kids will be kids.

>thats why small shop owners
>stand over you when you come into there stores , i have at leist 1 damaged
>guitar every 2 weeks just from someone who drops a guitar , or bangs an
>acoustic off another ect ....and there is nothing i can do about it ,you
>have to let people look and play your gear or you will never sell it ....
>bottom line

Absolutely, that's true. However, the way stores have them displayed
often contributes to the dings they collect. I've stores hang the
guitars so close together that you can't help but bang one into
another, and I've seen guitars hung to where they're not quite out of
reach but high enough to cause people great difficulty getting them
out of the racks. I feel for you, but if it happens a lot, you have
to start wondering whether it's their fault or yours.

>Robert Schuh
>"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
>intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
>the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
>the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
>- Nietzsche

On the other hand, intimidating the neighbor doesn't necessarily mean
you're destined for greatness. Sometimes you're just a useless
fucking asshole. Like you, for example.

they were really " out of reach " with a card that said please ask for help
, he stood on a stool to get to the guitar and dropped it into another one
..(he told me this afterwards) no respect for one persons equipment IMHO and
he was old enough to know , the parents were in the store and just let him
romp .... they have no control over him i guess either ... while our
expensive guitars are persay " out of reach " in most cases , theres always
a 1 person who takes it upon themselves to overcome the hurdle and get that
instrument , i agree with the acoustic problem , we do have less expensive
acoustics stored closer together and for that reason amoung others we are
moving to a larger location in 2 weeks ....
"Boom" <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in message
news:38j6lv01704vu7qungqnq4uatfee61ti0q@4ax.com...
> >i had 2
> >custom shop fenders , a strat hanging directly over a custom shop tele, a
> >13nyear old kid came in , removed the card from the guitar that simply
said
> >" please ask for help to play this guitar "
> >had trouble getting the guitar down and dropped it right into the custom
> >shop tele , bottom line ? over 1200.00 in custom paint work needed to be
> >done to make both of these guitars right !!!!!
>
> That's a very ugly story, and I can see why you would be angry over
> that. However, is there any reason you hang those guitars in that
> fashion? Do you not have room behind the counter for really expensive
> guitars? The onus is on you to protect your inventory. I know things
> like that are bound to happen sometimes, but displaying your inventory
> safely is your responsibility as a dealer. Kids will be kids.
>
> >thats why small shop owners
> >stand over you when you come into there stores , i have at leist 1
damaged
> >guitar every 2 weeks just from someone who drops a guitar , or bangs an
> >acoustic off another ect ....and there is nothing i can do about it ,you
> >have to let people look and play your gear or you will never sell it ....
> >bottom line
>
> Absolutely, that's true. However, the way stores have them displayed
> often contributes to the dings they collect. I've stores hang the
> guitars so close together that you can't help but bang one into
> another, and I've seen guitars hung to where they're not quite out of
> reach but high enough to cause people great difficulty getting them
> out of the racks. I feel for you, but if it happens a lot, you have
> to start wondering whether it's their fault or yours.

>they were really " out of reach " with a card that said please ask for help
>, he stood on a stool to get to the guitar and dropped it into another one
>.(he told me this afterwards) no respect for one persons equipment IMHO and
>he was old enough to know , the parents were in the store and just let him
>romp .... they have no control over him i guess either ...

Then you pay some bruiser kid $20 to beat the crap out of him. But
seriously, that definitely sounds like reasonable protection in
displaying them. Too bad the parents couldn't do the right thing.
I'd like to see my kids pull a stunt like that. Of course, I taught
my kids respect for other people's stuff already so hopefully I
wouldn't have that problem.

>while our
>expensive guitars are persay " out of reach " in most cases , theres always
>a 1 person who takes it upon themselves to overcome the hurdle and get that
>instrument , i agree with the acoustic problem , we do have less expensive
>acoustics stored closer together and for that reason amoung others we are
>moving to a larger location in 2 weeks ....

Congratulations. Hope it works out for you.

In rec.music.makers.percussion Jack <Tarkus7no@spamoptonline.net> wrote:
> There's no better place IMO to be able to check out gear for as long as
> you'd like than a GC or Sam Ash. They don't bother you, and generally ask if
> you need any help. When I was younger, the mom and pop shops had everything
> hanging usually, and if you asked to check out an instrument, you were
> usually watched by the owner standing right there while you played.

> With GC they have a decent stock of gear, and if you find something you
> like, you have the choice of purchasing it anywhere you'd like. The 45
> day return policy is quite nice too.
> Just feel more comfortable at the bigger stores.

I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago. Hey, if I want
to check out high end basses I go to German Village Music Haus
(where I bought my Alembic) or high end drum stuff I go to
Columbus Pro Percussion (where I bought my drumframe). SA/GC
go for teen volume and that per se isn't bad, but I find less
and less there to make me drool.

And even though I've been one of the major whiners about
policy (or lack thereof) at these places, fact is I buy
tons of crap at both of them. Because they are high volume,
they can let demos and slightly damaged things go for a song.
So when those teens drop that relatively expensive instrument
I'm there waiting to scarf it up for pennies. And futhermore,
they cover a wide range of instruments for sale. Point is they
may be a newbie shop, but we are all newbies on things we don't
play yet! Hence they are very useful from that viewpoint as
well.

It would be nice if they had some reasonable management
and my whining and complaining here was never meant to
drive anybody away and make them lose business, but rather
to be a wake-up call to those folks trying (sort of) to run
these places.

Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
well met, you'd better forget that.

Benj

--
SPAM-Guard! Remove .users (if present) to email me!