Guitar Center Orlando's Labor Day Event!

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  1. Richard

    Richard Guest

    bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net wrote...

    > Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
    > what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
    > player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
    > well met, you'd better forget that.


    One of the last times John Scofield was in town (NYC), he went into
    the Sam Ash on 48th Street to get a new Digitech Whammy thing. He
    couldn't get anyone in SA to give him to time of day, so he walked
    across the street to one of the smaller shops (48th Street Custom
    Guitars) and bought one.

    There are some advanced players who don't live in musical
    metropolises like NYC who probably do alright at the local SA/GC.
    "Big fish, small pond" syndrome.

    --
    Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
  2. Boom

    Boom Guest

    >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
    >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
    >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
    >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
    >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.


    Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan or
    Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
    world seem to adjust just fine to them.

    >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
    >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
    >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
    >well met, you'd better forget that.


    This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
    there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
    perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
    sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
    their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
    make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.

    BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
    complete fucking dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
    now I would like to cordially invite you to go fuck yourself.
  3. -MIKE-

    -MIKE- Guest

    > Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
    > what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
    > player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
    > well met, you'd better forget that.
    >
    > Benj




    I was waiting for a shipment heads straight from Evans and they
    didn't show. I had a session the next day and Forks was closing
    before I could get there. So, I called Sam Ash to see what they had
    in stock. We're talking drum heads, here. Something of which they
    should have dozens of sets. Not a single full set of heads in any
    line. Then I get the old, "we can order...." :)

    I don't know what it's like for bass/guitar department, but this is
    not a music store that cares about the advanced players. It would
    be like them not having enough strings for your bass, or telling you
    to just mix and match brands/types.


    -MIKE-

    --
    http://mikedrums.com
    mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
    ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
  4. -MIKE-

    -MIKE- Guest

    I feel for you, Mark. I was friends with the owner of the local
    mom-n-pop, where I used to live. One day I tuned up one of the
    out-of-the-box drum kits he had sitting on the floor for months.
    The thing sold a few days later. Next thing I know, he asks me to
    come in and tune them all. He said he's give me cost+shipping on
    anything I ever bought, if I would just come in an tune the drums,
    now and then. I told him I would just teach his drum guy, but he
    was quitting, soon.

    He didn't have jack squat in stock, and even less in high end gear,
    so it didn't do much for me, drum-wise, save one lucky-find Zildjian
    A Custom Ride that was perfect for me. I *did* get a ton of audio
    gear with that discount, though. :)

    It's tough for the little guy to compete when he can't stock dozens
    of kits. It's even tougher when the big chains get better dealer
    cost, and sell cheapo kits at a loss to get bodies in the door, for
    cheaper than the mom-n-pop stores pay for them.


    -MIKE-

    --
    http://mikedrums.com
    mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
    ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply


    > Jack
    > speaking from experience here , the " mom and pop " stores usally can not
    > afford if someone young comes in and rips down a 2000.00 les paul and
    > starts wanking on it ..... i have had kids drop custom shop strats thats
    > cost over 2000.00 and just shrug it off ....the big chain stores just blow
    > it off if something gets damaged while the smaller retailers feel the hit
    > , i had 2 custom shop fenders , a strat hanging directly over a custom
    > shop tele, a 13nyear old kid came in , removed the card from the guitar
    > that simply said " please ask for help to play this guitar " had trouble
    > getting the guitar down and dropped it right into the custom shop tele ,
    > bottom line ? over 1200.00 in custom paint work needed to be done to make
    > both of these guitars right !!!!! thats why small shop owners stand over
    > you when you come into there stores , i have at leist 1 damaged guitar
    > every 2 weeks just from someone who drops a guitar , or bangs an acoustic
    > off another ect ....and there is nothing i can do about it ,you have to
    > let people look and play your gear or you will never sell it .... bottom
    > line
  5. drumdude

    drumdude Guest

    I do not consider myself a mom and pop store , we carry over 350 guitars in
    stock , dealers for most major brand guitars , offer service on everything
    we sell , are an authorized fender repair facility , carry 7 professional
    drum lines , in the top 5 in gretsch (usa)in the country , have over 300
    cymbals in stock ....and usally can match or beat any catalog price ....
    with just 2 locations
    so while we are not the " chain store " we are somewhere in the middle of
    line somewhere i guess
    but we feel the muscle from SA/GC all the time : )
    "-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
    news:DuqcnchikuDC5M6iXTWJhQ@comcast.com...
    > > Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
    > > what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
    > > player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
    > > well met, you'd better forget that.
    > >
    > > Benj

    >
    >
    >
    > I was waiting for a shipment heads straight from Evans and they
    > didn't show. I had a session the next day and Forks was closing
    > before I could get there. So, I called Sam Ash to see what they had
    > in stock. We're talking drum heads, here. Something of which they
    > should have dozens of sets. Not a single full set of heads in any
    > line. Then I get the old, "we can order...." :)
    >
    > I don't know what it's like for bass/guitar department, but this is
    > not a music store that cares about the advanced players. It would
    > be like them not having enough strings for your bass, or telling you
    > to just mix and match brands/types.
    >
    >
    > -MIKE-
    >
    > --
    > http://mikedrums.com
    > mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
    > ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
    >
  6. -MIKE-

    -MIKE- Guest

    "drumdude" <pa.drumdude@verizon.net> wrote:

    > I do not consider myself a mom and pop store , we carry over 350 guitars
    > in stock , dealers for most major brand guitars , offer service on
    > everything we sell , are an authorized fender repair facility , carry 7
    > professional drum lines , in the top 5 in gretsch (usa)in the country ,
    > have over 300 cymbals in stock ....and usally can match or beat any
    > catalog price .... with just 2 locations so while we are not the " chain
    > store " we are somewhere in the middle of line somewhere i guess but we
    > feel the muscle from SA/GC all the time : )
    >



    So what you're saying is, you're a
    "mom-n-pop-n-brother-n-sister-n-aunt-n-uncle" store.


    -MIKE-

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  7. drumdude

    drumdude Guest

    lmao
    ahhhh yeah i guess so Mike
    "-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
    news:b_ydnXZXvs8RGc6iU-KYuA@comcast.com...
    > "drumdude" <pa.drumdude@verizon.net> wrote:
    >
    > > I do not consider myself a mom and pop store , we carry over 350 guitars
    > > in stock , dealers for most major brand guitars , offer service on
    > > everything we sell , are an authorized fender repair facility , carry 7
    > > professional drum lines , in the top 5 in gretsch (usa)in the country ,
    > > have over 300 cymbals in stock ....and usally can match or beat any
    > > catalog price .... with just 2 locations so while we are not the " chain
    > > store " we are somewhere in the middle of line somewhere i guess but we
    > > feel the muscle from SA/GC all the time : )
    > >

    >
    >
    > So what you're saying is, you're a
    > "mom-n-pop-n-brother-n-sister-n-aunt-n-uncle" store.
    >
    >
    > -MIKE-
    >
    > --
    > http://mikedrums.com
    > mike@mikedrumsDOT.com
    > ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
    >
  8. Re: Re: Guitar Center Orlando's Labor Day Event!

    On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:15:13 GMT, Richard <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >One of the last times John Scofield was in town (NYC), he went into
    >the Sam Ash on 48th Street to get a new Digitech Whammy thing. He
    >couldn't get anyone in SA to give him to time of day, so he walked
    >across the street to one of the smaller shops (48th Street Custom
    >Guitars) and bought one.


    Sam Ash now owns all the shops on that block, including 48th St.
    Custom Guitars (Manny's too).
  9. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net wrote:

    > In rec.music.makers.percussion Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote:
    >
    > > Go fuck yourself. At least have to balls to post your name and your e mail
    > > if you going to talk shit. Take your head out of your ass.

    >
    > Hey Rob,
    > Want some fun? Tell him you play bass and Fenders Suck.
    > (He's a "producer" who fires any bass play who plays
    > anything, but a pre-CBS Fender) Since I know how you
    > feel about bass guitars in general, you two should get
    > along famously! (already have a good start...tee hee)
    > :)
    >
    > Benj
    >
    > --
    > SPAM-Guard! Remove .users (if present) to email me!


    He is a "producer?" LOLL! What a fucking moron. He really must be big time
    living in red neck central FL. There was only 1 guy who made the pre CBS bass
    valuable. He died in 1987.


    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  10. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    Boom wrote:

    > >Hey Rob,
    > >Want some fun? Tell him you play bass and Fenders Suck.
    > >(He's a "producer" who fires any bass play who plays
    > >anything, but a pre-CBS Fender)

    >
    > You're an idiot. I never ever said such a thing. Not only did I not
    > say that, but in that very thread you are "referring to," I said
    > recorded many tracks using my Guitar Factory basses. So maybe the
    > next time you want to put words in my mouth, maybe you should take a
    > little bit of time to go through and seek out the truth. Then once
    > you have found the truth, go fuck yourself.
    >
    > >Since I know how you
    > >feel about bass guitars in general, you two should get
    > >along famously! (already have a good start...tee hee)
    > >:)

    >
    > "Tee hee?" Look, it's OK to be a homo if you want, but don't touch my
    > ass.


    How did I know that this pussy was also a little homophobic prick? How old
    are you Spanky?


    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  11. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    Boom wrote:

    > >Gosh Boom as usual you are spot on....NOT! When are you going to
    > >put that beatup pre-CBS passive Fender down and use both hands
    > >to remove your head from where the sun don't shine?

    >
    > Better hope I don't. I might use it on you next.
    >
    > >"Owners a
    > >a bit smarter than everyone else"! Gimme a break! I won't even
    > >answer this. Just do a Google search on "Stores that Suck"
    > >for a detailed description of all the "better shopping experiences"
    > >you've seemed to have missed.

    >
    > Hey, just because others have had bad experiences there doesn't mean I
    > have. But then again, I guess you're everything to everyone, so how
    > dare I argue?


    Why do you keep talking shit like you are some kind of tough guy? I have $
    here that says you are some teenage redneck who has never been in a real
    fight. You need to butch up a bit and tell us who you are. I am an open
    book asshole. You can find my address anywhere on the Internet. You can't
    even post a real name.


    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  12. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    Boom wrote:

    > >Robert Schuh
    > >"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    > >intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    > >the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    > >the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    > >- Nietzsche

    >
    > On the other hand, intimidating the neighbor doesn't necessarily mean
    > you're destined for greatness. Sometimes you're just a useless
    > fucking asshole. Like you, for example.


    Grow up little boy. Typical homophobic AOL moron. Did you go to school in
    Central FL too? LOLL


    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  13. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    Boom wrote:

    > >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
    > >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
    > >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
    > >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
    > >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.

    >
    > Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan or
    > Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
    > world seem to adjust just fine to them.
    >
    > >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
    > >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
    > >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
    > >well met, you'd better forget that.

    >
    > This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
    > there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
    > perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
    > sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
    > their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
    > make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
    >
    > BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
    > complete fucking dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
    > now I would like to cordially invite you to go fuck yourself.


    Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician? Who wants to place a
    bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?


    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  14. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    Boom wrote:

    > >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY fucking
    > >moron has to use AOL?

    >
    > Um, because we're too cheap to use Yahoo or Geocities. Asshole.
    > Please, I'm begging you...come visit me!


    I realize that you are still living with Mommy and Daddy, but you need to know
    that neither Yahoo nor Geocites are ISPs.


    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  15. Boom

    Boom Guest

    >Why do you keep talking shit like you are some kind of tough guy? I have $
    >here that says you are some teenage redneck who has never been in a real
    >fight. You need to butch up a bit and tell us who you are. I am an open
    >book asshole.


    Yes, you are an open book asshole. Even if the book was closed, you'd
    still be an asshole.
  16. Boom

    Boom Guest

    >I realize that you are still living with Mommy and Daddy, but you need to know
    >that neither Yahoo nor Geocites are ISPs.


    Like I give a rat's ass what a fucking idiot on the internet thinks.
    Until you have the balls to show your face on my doorstep, you are
    nothing to me but a dickless little pussy boy whose mouth is bigger
    than his brain. Goodbye.
  17. "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
    news:3F53924B.67E6D3D4@robschuh.com...

    There was only 1 guy who made the pre CBS bass
    > valuable. He died in 1987.


    Who was that, Schuh?
  18. "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
    news:3F53930F.BAE77F60@robschuh.com...

    > Why do you keep talking shit like you are some kind of tough guy? I have $
    > here that says you are some teenage redneck who has never been in a real
    > fight.


    I got some book right here that says you ain't shit, you ain't never been
    shit, and your lifelong dream of rising to the level of shit will forever
    remain unfulfilled.

    You need to butch up a bit and tell us who you are. I am an open
    > book asshole. You can find my address anywhere on the Internet. You can't
    > even post a real name.


    Post yours, Schuh. What's your address? You have mine. Post yours. Or
    send it to me and I'll post it. Just saying you live in the Phoenix metro
    area isn't saying you have an address.
  19. "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
    news:3F539457.3DC21253@robschuh.com...
    > Boom wrote:
    >
    > > >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
    > > >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
    > > >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
    > > >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
    > > >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.

    > >
    > > Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan or
    > > Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
    > > world seem to adjust just fine to them.
    > >
    > > >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
    > > >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
    > > >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
    > > >well met, you'd better forget that.

    > >
    > > This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
    > > there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
    > > perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
    > > sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
    > > their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
    > > make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
    > >
    > > BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
    > > complete fucking dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
    > > now I would like to cordially invite you to go fuck yourself.

    >
    > Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician?


    Ever' time I look in the mirror. Have you ever found the one without a
    double-click metronome, Schuh?

    Who wants to place a
    > bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?


    Well, I am on the inside. And I'm not a homophobe, Schuh. I don't hate
    you. I just don't think you're worth five cents to put cheese on a Whopper.
    Got nothing to do with your sexual orientation.

    Besides, I didn't write the post you responded to--Boom did.
  20. On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 11:42:23 -0700, Robert Schuh wrote:

    > I am an open
    > book asshole.


    LOL...freudian comma?
    --

    peace,

    Rog

    http://www.slammingrooves.com



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