Guitar Center Orlando's Labor Day Event!

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by Guest, Aug 31, 2003.

  1. In rec.music.makers.percussion Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote:
    > Boom wrote:


    >> This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
    >> there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
    >> perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
    >> sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
    >> their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
    >> make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.


    Actually what shocks and surprises me is that there are bass playing
    "producers" like yourself who know/care so little about music and so
    much about ego that they are completely satisfied with the high
    school level stuff flooding SA/GC. Great tone out of that Squire, eh?
    Have you ever been to a real bass shop? I didn't think so.

    > Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician? Who wants to place a
    > bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?


    Oh, wait! THAT explains everything!

    Benj

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  2. In rec.music.makers.percussion -MIKE- <mike@mikedrumsdot.com> wrote:

    > I don't know what it's like for bass/guitar department, but this is
    > not a music store that cares about the advanced players. It would
    > be like them not having enough strings for your bass, or telling you
    > to just mix and match brands/types.


    Just go check out the stock of 6-string sets for bass. Nice
    ...er..selection, no? I'm sure they can "order them for you".
    :)

    Benj

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  3. -MIKE-

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    >> I don't know what it's like for bass/guitar department, but this is
    >> not a music store that cares about the advanced players. It would
    >> be like them not having enough strings for your bass, or telling you
    >> to just mix and match brands/types.

    >
    > Just go check out the stock of 6-string sets for bass. Nice
    > ..er..selection, no? I'm sure they can "order them for you".
    > :)
    >
    > Benj



    Do they sell six string basses?

    This store was loaded with kits in the same configuration I was
    trying to buy heads for.


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  4. In rec.music.makers.percussion -MIKE- <mike@mikedrumsdot.com> wrote:

    >> Just go check out the stock of 6-string sets for bass. Nice
    >> ..er..selection, no? I'm sure they can "order them for you".
    >> :)
    >>
    >> Benj



    > Do they sell six string basses?


    > This store was loaded with kits in the same configuration I was
    > trying to buy heads for.


    Actually they do. SA often has a decent selection with some
    Ken Smiths and Yamaha 6's. Which makes it even weirder that
    that the 6-string string set selection is so sparse.
    But that is no different than not having heads for the
    exact kits the store is loaded with.

    But the real explanation has to do with judgement and
    selection. If you go to a store that caters more to
    working musicians rather than to newbies, you find that
    often the size of the stock of heads/strings/etc.
    is actually smaller than the chains. But the owners
    (Typically being decent musicians themselves) exercise
    some judgement as to which brands/sizes/styles are cool
    and which ones are ones you'd buy once and never buy
    again. They don't bother with the latter. So while
    SA/GC may have a huge wall of strings or a mile of drumheads,
    it doesn't mean much because like you with a sensible
    need (a complete set of heads) they never thought
    in those terms. They just think, gosh look at
    all those brands and sizes we stock isn't that great!

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  5. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    Da Parrot-chick wrote:

    > "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
    > news:3F539457.3DC21253@robschuh.com...
    > > Boom wrote:
    > >
    > > > >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
    > > > >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
    > > > >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
    > > > >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
    > > > >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.
    > > >
    > > > Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan or
    > > > Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
    > > > world seem to adjust just fine to them.
    > > >
    > > > >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
    > > > >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
    > > > >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
    > > > >well met, you'd better forget that.
    > > >
    > > > This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
    > > > there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
    > > > perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam Ash
    > > > sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
    > > > their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
    > > > make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
    > > >
    > > > BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
    > > > complete fucking dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
    > > > now I would like to cordially invite you to go fuck yourself.

    > >
    > > Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician?

    >
    > Ever' time I look in the mirror. Have you ever found the one without a
    > double-click metronome, Schuh?
    >
    > Who wants to place a
    > > bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?

    >
    > Well, I am on the inside. And I'm not a homophobe, Schuh. I don't hate
    > you. I just don't think you're worth five cents to put cheese on a Whopper.
    > Got nothing to do with your sexual orientation.
    >
    > Besides, I didn't write the post you responded to--Boom did.


    You REALLY need to get a life. I was responding to the other no talent fuck.


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  6. "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
    news:3F543174.96FC8B00@robschuh.com...
    > Da Parrot-chick wrote:
    >
    > > "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
    > > news:3F539457.3DC21253@robschuh.com...
    > > > Boom wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > >I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
    > > > > >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
    > > > > >instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
    > > > > >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
    > > > > >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.
    > > > >
    > > > > Ya, because I'm sure you're so scary good that a Fender or MusicMan

    or
    > > > > Warwick is way beneath you, even though many many top players in the
    > > > > world seem to adjust just fine to them.
    > > > >
    > > > > >Personally I get lots of stuff at SA/GC and love them for
    > > > > >what they are. But if you get the idea that an advanced
    > > > > >player is going to go in there and have his/her needs
    > > > > >well met, you'd better forget that.
    > > > >
    > > > > This may shock and surprise a scary advanced player like you, but
    > > > > there's tons of players that blow away almost everybody that are
    > > > > perfectly happy to be playing gear the quality of what CG and Sam

    Ash
    > > > > sell. For a guy who loves to point out other people talking out of
    > > > > their asses (and if they're not talking out of their asses, you just
    > > > > make it up), you sure do talk out of your ass a lot.
    > > > >
    > > > > BTW, I probably would have never replied to this had you not been a
    > > > > complete fucking dickhead yesterday and put words in my mouth. And
    > > > > now I would like to cordially invite you to go fuck yourself.
    > > >
    > > > Tell me Skippy, have you ever met a real musician?

    > >
    > > Ever' time I look in the mirror. Have you ever found the one without a
    > > double-click metronome, Schuh?
    > >
    > > Who wants to place a
    > > > bet that this little homophobe is a teenager?

    > >
    > > Well, I am on the inside. And I'm not a homophobe, Schuh. I don't hate
    > > you. I just don't think you're worth five cents to put cheese on a

    Whopper.
    > > Got nothing to do with your sexual orientation.
    > >
    > > Besides, I didn't write the post you responded to--Boom did.

    >
    > You REALLY need to get a life. I was responding to the other no talent

    fuck.

    You called out my name, Schuh. And you were talking to another man. Read
    it yourself; you quoted it. No go practice your press rolls, you
    pretzel-brain, groove-challenged, outta-work, fetid piece of day-old maggot
    poo.
  7. Steve

    Steve Guest

    Re: Re: Guitar Center Orlando's Labor Day Event!

    >My favorite scam is actually advertising a decent price on a Fender,
    >for example, but then claiming that the case costs extra...even though
    >Fender sells them with cases and includes the case price in their
    >MSRP.


    I have heard of this at GCs around the country.

    The rapid rise of the web and the increased traffic on usenet, though, may have
    made some inroads on this kind of practice.

    The local GC (Rochester, NY) has been here about 2 years. They guarantee that
    they'll beat ANYONE'S price on anything they carry. And they don't pull the
    case-switching thing--at least, not that I have seen in this store.

    That being said, I don't have much use for them, and prefer to patronize the
    local stores.


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  8. Steve

    Steve Guest

    <<Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY fucking
    moron has to use AOL?>>

    For me, because the parental controls on kids' accounts are second to none, and
    because the Academic Assistance Center there is nothing short of remarkable.

    If you have no kids and don't want the best spam filter available, use
    something else.




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  9. Steve

    Steve Guest

    >SA/GC are geared to
    >high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
    >instruments, but very few are that the high end.
    >Great for high
    >schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
    >rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago.


    I think that's absolutely right.

    Of course, the real money's in the mass-produced lower and middle level gear,
    not in the higher end stuff--after all, that's where the bulk oif the sales
    are.
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  10. Steve

    Steve Guest

  11. Rob

    Rob Guest

    bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net wrote in message news:<bivpue$3rn$1@tribune.oar.net>...
    > In rec.music.makers.percussion Jack <Tarkus7no@spamoptonline.net> wrote:
    > > There's no better place IMO to be able to check out gear for as long as
    > > you'd like than a GC or Sam Ash. They don't bother you, and generally ask if
    > > you need any help. When I was younger, the mom and pop shops had everything
    > > hanging usually, and if you asked to check out an instrument, you were
    > > usually watched by the owner standing right there while you played.

    >
    > > With GC they have a decent stock of gear, and if you find something you
    > > like, you have the choice of purchasing it anywhere you'd like. The 45
    > > day return policy is quite nice too.
    > > Just feel more comfortable at the bigger stores.

    >
    > I think you've hit one nail on the head here. SA/GC are geared to
    > high volume entry level players. There is a large stock of
    > instruments, but very few are that the high end. Great for high
    > schoolers to drool, but I go in there and "yawn" just look at
    > rows and rows of stuff I've outgrown long ago. Hey, if I want

    ....<snip>
    I think the GC we have in Boston is probably somewhat
    anomalous. There are a lot of nice basses in there;
    I suppose being near Berklee helps. I don't know if
    the valuations are reasonable, but there are quite a
    few >>$2000 vintage basses there. And some nice
    mid level stuff, Pedulla, Ernie Ball, the occasional Ken
    Smith, Warwick, Fender, etc. And nice amps. It's a fun place
    to browse.
    -Rob
  12. Shawn Martin

    Shawn Martin Guest

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:57:38 -0700, Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com>
    wrote:

    >Boom wrote:
    >
    >> >Go fuck yourself. At least have to balls to post your name and your e mail
    >> >if you going to talk shit. Take your head out of your ass.

    >>
    >> Jimmy Miller. Jm7765@aol.com . You got a problem with me, send me an
    >> email and I'll give you my address so you can come over and I can beat
    >> your ass with a baseball bat.

    >
    >BTW Moron,
    >Learn how to quote like any normal ISP person would. Why is it EVERY fucking
    >moron has to use AOL?





    Whatsamatter Roberta? Don't like someone using your same tactics?
    Feeling threatened?



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  13. In rec.music.makers.bass Rob <b@buh.eiomail.com> wrote:
    > ...<snip>
    > I think the GC we have in Boston is probably somewhat
    > anomalous. There are a lot of nice basses in there;
    > I suppose being near Berklee helps. I don't know if
    > the valuations are reasonable, but there are quite a
    > few >>$2000 vintage basses there. And some nice
    > mid level stuff, Pedulla, Ernie Ball, the occasional Ken
    > Smith, Warwick, Fender, etc. And nice amps. It's a fun place
    > to browse.


    I've never found much of interest in the GC bass dept
    here. You may have heard discussions of our GC "bass
    closet". I have seen a few interesting things in the
    used/vintage department, but mostly they are into
    guitars not basses.

    The local SA (just a couple of blocks up the street from
    GC does much better in the Bass dept. It's about like you
    say. Some nice mid level Ken Smith, Fender, etc. Nice
    row of decent amps to play with. And even better they get
    some really decent buys from time to time. For example
    a while back they had a huge stack of Ampeg amps. Re-issues
    I think. The kind with the tube amp that flips over and
    locks into the cab for transport. They were DIRT cheap
    and I'm sorry I didn't get one!

    But generally speaking it's no surprise that the overall
    stock in both stores is designed to be drool material for
    newbies and newbies moving up to the next level. Drool material
    for me (Alembics, Rics, G & L, Lightwave, whatever) always seems
    to be found over at the local custom guitar shop and almost never
    at GC/SA.

    Benj
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