Guitar Center Rant...(again)

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by Wishbone, Aug 29, 2003.

  1. DaveMohn

    DaveMohn Guest

    >With all due respect, Dave, I disagree. We are the customers, they are the
    >sales clerks. Without our patronage, they would not be there. IMHO it's up
    >to them to make us want to use their store. It's not up to us to treat them
    >nice and know more about the product to help them sell it to us. My job as
    >a customer is to purchase the product, not educate the sales clerk on what
    >they're selling or how to sell it--that's management's job.
    >

    Rule # 1 is: The Customer Is Always Right.
    >


    Yo DCP...I understand where you are coming from, rule #2 states if the customer
    is wrong, refer to rule #1 ; - )
    But.................
    There is also an elitist problem on the customer end in many cases. I've see
    too many customers acting like AH's to agree totatlly with your point of view.
    People get jaded after a few ugly encounters. Again I say...get to know your
    sales people, you don't have to take them home to dinner but you know what I
    mean...it's a two way street out there. I think we expect too much a lot of the
    time....IMHO
    Happy Labor Day!


    "...It is better to have a crust of bread, a little soup & some jazz,
    than much feasting with country & western..."

    JDMdrums
    Dave Mohn
    http://www.JDMdrums.com
  2. "Joey Furr" <joeyfurr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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    > So to be 'smart' it is required to embrace whatever the newest technology
    > is, regardless of the decrease in useability and/or functionality?
    >
    > Great, carbon-fiber drums for everyone!


    Hey, I have a 6.5x13 CF snare that kicks ass!

    CM
  3. -MIKE- <mike@mikedrumsdot.com> wrote:

    > <smooch-smooch> <hug-hug>
    > We're all a$$holes, sometimes.
    > Some are semicolons. :)


    Say, wait a minute. I sure hope those smooches there are
    California "air kisses"! We sure don't need another
    homophobic thread! :)

    Benj
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  4. "DaveMohn" <jdmdrums@aol.com> wrote in message
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    > >With all due respect, Dave, I disagree. We are the customers, they are

    the
    > >sales clerks. Without our patronage, they would not be there. IMHO it's

    up
    > >to them to make us want to use their store. It's not up to us to treat

    them
    > >nice and know more about the product to help them sell it to us. My job

    as
    > >a customer is to purchase the product, not educate the sales clerk on

    what
    > >they're selling or how to sell it--that's management's job.
    > >

    > Rule # 1 is: The Customer Is Always Right.
    > >

    >
    > Yo DCP...I understand where you are coming from, rule #2 states if the

    customer
    > is wrong, refer to rule #1 ; - )
    > But.................
    > There is also an elitist problem on the customer end in many cases. I've

    see
    > too many customers acting like AH's to agree totatlly with your point of

    view.
    > People get jaded after a few ugly encounters. Again I say...get to know

    your
    > sales people, you don't have to take them home to dinner but you know what

    I
    > mean...it's a two way street out there. I think we expect too much a lot

    of the
    > time....IMHO
    > Happy Labor Day!


    Eh Dave,

    I know what you mean. I've seen it myself; people who treat sales staff
    like personal servants and talk down to them. It ain't right. There's a
    need for respect on both sides.

    That said, if the customer's being an arsehole, that doesn't give the sales
    staff license to be rude back. If they can't handle the pressure of working
    with the public, then they need another job. Bottom line, they need to sell
    stuff more than the customer needs to buy stuff. It ain't like SA or GC are
    the only game in town, especially with mail-order. You're right, I do
    expect a lot. I expect the sales staff to be friendly, courteous, helpful,
    and knowledgeable about their product.

    When I bought my computer, I decided to go with a local company to support
    local business. I dropped by one outfit and got treated like crap the
    moment I walked in. The receptionist just stared at me without a
    greeting--I just stared back until she spoke up. I told her I was looking
    for a computer and I knew this store built them. She asked what I wanted,
    but with an attitude. I said I hadn't bought a computer like this before
    and could she help me? She developed more attitude and just sat staring at
    me in response to questions, including could I talk to someone else. I
    finally just said, "I don't need this,", turned on my heel, left, and would
    up buying a computer from a chain outfit. Couple days later I called the
    store, got the manager on the phone, and told him I just spent $3k on a
    multi-media workstation and would have given my business to him but for the
    dumb blonde in the front. I was nice, he was respectful, and we had a good
    conversation with him asking me to consider him next time and he would deal
    with her now. And I will consider him next time around.

    But I do agree about the personal relationship. I have 'em at my
    supermarket and it makes a world of difference in the way I'm treated when I
    walk in.
  5. NoSheeples

    NoSheeples Guest

    >Say, wait a minute. I sure hope those smooches there are
    >California "air kisses"! We sure don't need another
    >homophobic thread! :)
    >
    >Benj


    Yea, don't get me started. ;o)

    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty is
    a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
  6. NoSheeples

    NoSheeples Guest

    >
    >So to be 'smart' it is required to embrace whatever the newest technology
    >is, regardless of the decrease in useability and/or functionality?


    I never said that. There has always been the crowd with an unwillingness to
    learn to embrace the new. This in it's self is nothing new. They said
    electricity would be the end of the world to.
    You are talking to someone who use to think old was better more then anyone,
    but after realizing that if you don't at least try and keep up with technology
    you will be left behind. That was the smartest move I ever made. I can find
    work any place, and I never have to worry about being unemployed because I did
    embrace new technology. Maybe I have the wrong approach, rather then trying
    to help people realize they need to keep up I should discourage them as it only
    opens the job market even more for me. ;o)


    ..>regardless of the decrease in useability and/or functionality?
    >


    Please explain?
    I don't understand the decrease in functionality statement? Any latest gizmo I
    have ever purchased has been an advancement in reliability and functionality.
    Can you give me a specific example of some latest technology where
    functionality has gone down and not up? IM not saying they don't exist I would
    just like to hear of one.



    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty is
    a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
  7. -MIKE-

    -MIKE- Guest

    >> <smooch-smooch> <hug-hug>
    >> We're all a$$holes, sometimes.
    >> Some are semicolons. :)

    >
    > Say, wait a minute. I sure hope those smooches there are
    > California "air kisses"! We sure don't need another
    > homophobic thread! :)
    >
    > Benj



    I've got nothing against milk. :)


    -MIKE-

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  8. Tom mispelled:
    >Google shows that George is one of the most arrgoent SOB's in here.


    I'm argoent! Tom has hurt my self of steam! ;-)

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    "-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
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    > >>Problem is, George continues to prove how smart he is by what he
    > >>says [writes],

    > >
    > > That says nothing about someones IQ.
    > >
    > >
    > >>and he doesn't have to wave a flag telling everyone
    > >>that what he says is smart.

    > >
    > > No, instead he starts out each thread by calling me an idiot or some

    other
    > > insult.
    > > Note that I just said your ignorant, not stupid, but your winning me

    over.
    > > ;o)
    > >

    >
    > That's good. You know the difference between stupid and ignorant.
    > Now, use the same dictionary to look up, "You're" and "Your."
    >
    >
    >
    > > >It just is and no one argues about it.

    > >
    > > George has been wrong on plenty of occasions, but when your lips are
    > > permently attached to his private parts it's heard to say anything. LOL!
    > >
    > >
    > >>You call that arrogance.

    > >
    > > Google shows that George is one of the most arrgoent SOB's in here. Now
    > > your credebillty is really on the line. It's all over goolge jack ass.
    > >
    > >> He also has a track record of admitting
    > >>when he is wrong.

    > >
    > > Yea once a year. Now admit your wrong.
    > >
    > >>Now, you have to make up some sweeping characterization about me,
    > >>based on me bitching about my car, in order to give you something
    > >>you can feel superior about.
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > > Sounds like you Mike. Sweeping generalizations about Tom being Racist
    > > because I use words like Slope and towel head. See how that works Mike?
    > > See how it easy it is to judge someone you have never met?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >>I was bitching about my car. You turned it into a pissing match,
    > >>painting me as a technophobe. You couldn't wait to jump up and blow
    > >>your horn about how smart you are about cars. I don't care.

    > >
    > > You should care. I care about drums and I have learned alot in here.
    > >

    >
    >
    > When I was in school, the teacher wouldn't let us learn fractions
    > until we learned long division. So, we aren't going to let you
    > debate things above your head, until you pass third grade.
    >
    > study words for tonight:
    > - permanently
    > - hard
    > - arrogant (especially because it was spelled for you/ -10 points
    > for laziness)
    > - credibility
    > - yeah
    > - your (again)
    > - a lot (two words)
    >
    > study lesson for tonight:
    > - use of the comma in a sentence
    >
    >
    >
    > >>I was bitching about my car. You turned it into a pissing match,
    > >>painting me as a technophobe.

    > >
    > > No Mike you said some really stupid shit like having a 20 year old car
    > > cost less in the long run, that was true with the 80,s cars, but not
    > > anymore.

    >
    > I based it on my personal experience with a 94, 99, 82 and 73. The
    > 82 has the most miles and has cost me thousands less to repair than
    > the late models. I was only speaking of my personal experience.
    >
    >
    > > You also said you need a 500.00 dollar scan tool to diagnose
    > > these new cars. More bull shit.
    > >

    >
    > I didn't write that.
    > I wrote "But what you could've fix with a couple hours under the
    > shade tree, not takes $500 from someone with a diagnostic computer."
    >
    > Maybe my misspelling of "fixed" and "now" threw you off.
    >
    >
    >
    > >>You couldn't wait to jump up and blow your horn.

    > >
    > > I have waited a long time, so watch out.
    > > I will just be waiting for you to screw up again. And lay of the racist
    > > jokes will ya?
    > >

    >
    > So here it is. You finally admit it. You've waited a long time.
    > No, that doesn't sound like someone who wants to feel superior.
    > Sounds passive aggressive to me.
    >
    > BTW, did you see the part where I said you know more about cars than
    > me? No, of course not.
    >
    >
    > -MIKE-
    >
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    >
  9. > n2new@aol.comNsheep (NoSheeples) wrote:
    >
    > Educated is the operative word. Education and intellegence are to seperate
    > things. Some educated idiots come out of collage everyday. Did you ever
    > notice how much higher my IQ is then yours? ;o)
    >


    Tom , you are the Jethro Bodine of this sit com. I try not to laugh at
    people's short comings but your comic misspelling (sp?) that demonstrates
    your lack of education and intelligence could not be written by the highest
    paid tv writer.

    --
    George Lawrence
    George's Drum Shop
    1351 S. Cleveland-Massillon Road #21
    Copley, Ohio 44321
    http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
    http://www.Drumguru.com
    330 670 0800
    toll free 866 970 0800

    "If thine enemy wrong thee,
    buy each of his children a drum."
    -Chinese proverb




    "-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
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    > > n2new@aol.comNsheep (NoSheeples) wrote:
    > >
    > > Educated is the operative word. Education and intellegence are to

    seperate
    > > things. Some educated idiots come out of collage everyday. Did you

    ever
    > > notice how much higher my IQ is then yours? ;o)
    > >

    >
    >
    > Geez, Tom! Sometimes I swear you do this on purpose. If you don't
    > want to end up in peoples' sig files, quit dishing 'em out like
    > this. :)
    >
    >
    > -MIKE-
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    >
  10. Ben wrote:
    >did you

    ever notice how much more well-educated (Hope I got that
    quote right) I am than you?

    Ben, that should be "More well educated I am than you are" if attemptiong to
    write in the famous two verb sentence structure style of one Rob Schuh.



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    George Lawrence
    George's Drum Shop
    1351 S. Cleveland-Massillon Road #21
    Copley, Ohio 44321
    http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
    http://www.Drumguru.com
    330 670 0800
    toll free 866 970 0800

    "If thine enemy wrong thee,
    buy each of his children a drum."
    -Chinese proverb




    <bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net> wrote in message
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    > NoSheeples <n2new@aol.comnsheep> wrote:
    > > There is no short supply of know it all's in here, as well as
    > > condecending jack off's who masterbate while trying to prove
    > > how dumb Tom is, so now it's my turn. Karma rules once again. ;o)

    >
    > Your turn? OK. You sure are a dumb piece of sh!t and did you
    > ever notice how much more well-educated (Hope I got that
    > quote right) I am than you?
    >
    > Fap! Fap! Fap! Fap!
    >
    > Benj
    > ( :) )
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  11. NoSheeples

    NoSheeples Guest

    >Tom , you are the Jethro Bodine of this sit com. I try not to laugh at
    >people's short comings but your comic misspelling (sp?) that demonstrates
    >your lack of education and intelligence could not be written by the highest
    >paid tv writer.


    George you're nothing more than an arrogent jerk off. You probably masterbate
    thinking about how much more educated you are then me, but I have more skills
    and tallents then you will ever have. The reason for that is you never had to
    do shit with your pathetic life, having all the money you brag about. If a
    contest were held to find the higest paying job the in one week, I would kick
    your ass all over the place, got that MR, nose full of nickles? ;o)



    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty is
    a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
  12. Joey Furr

    Joey Furr Guest

    No offense intended in the analogy. :) You owe me one toe-stepping.
    --

    ....Joey
    "...so hold the mustard on those flames, y'all." - Aaron Draper

    "Chris Milillo" <drums@bestweb.net> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Joey Furr" <joeyfurr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:Kr6cnSJ41sv9z86iXTWJkA@comcast.com...
    > > So to be 'smart' it is required to embrace whatever the newest

    technology
    > > is, regardless of the decrease in useability and/or functionality?
    > >
    > > Great, carbon-fiber drums for everyone!

    >
    > Hey, I have a 6.5x13 CF snare that kicks ass!
    >
    > CM
    >
    >
  13. George Lawrence <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote:
    > Ben wrote:
    >>did you

    > ever notice how much more well-educated (Hope I got that
    > quote right) I am than you?


    > Ben, that should be "More well educated I am than you are" if attemptiong to
    > write in the famous two verb sentence structure style of one Rob Schuh.


    Yeah I was. :)

    But then you never know what you find rooting around a collage
    these days! :) :)

    Benj
  14. Glenn Dowdy

    Glenn Dowdy Guest

    "riddim" <riddim@localnet.com> wrote in message
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    > > Tom mispelled:
    > > >Google shows that George is one of the most arrgoent SOB's in here.

    > >
    > > I'm argoent! Tom has hurt my self of steam! ;-)
    > >
    > > --

    > And look at that R go, gents!
    >

    Everyone knows that George is half Rsed.

    Glenn D.
  15. riddim

    riddim Guest

    > Tom mispelled:
    > >Google shows that George is one of the most arrgoent SOB's in here.

    >
    > I'm argoent! Tom has hurt my self of steam! ;-)
    >
    > --

    And look at that R go, gents!
  16. LOL! Man oh man! I think we should all be ashamed for picking on old Tom.
    too easy. You hurl one at him and he gives you two more to hurl at him
    again.


    --
    George Lawrence
    George's Drum Shop
    1351 S. Cleveland-Massillon Road #21
    Copley, Ohio 44321
    http://www.GeorgesDrumShop.com
    http://www.Drumguru.com
    330 670 0800
    toll free 866 970 0800

    "If thine enemy wrong thee,
    buy each of his children a drum."
    -Chinese proverb




    <bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net> wrote in message
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    > George Lawrence <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote:
    > > Ben wrote:
    > >>did you

    > > ever notice how much more well-educated (Hope I got that
    > > quote right) I am than you?

    >
    > > Ben, that should be "More well educated I am than you are" if

    attemptiong to
    > > write in the famous two verb sentence structure style of one Rob Schuh.

    >
    > Yeah I was. :)
    >
    > But then you never know what you find rooting around a collage
    > these days! :) :)
    >
    > Benj

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