Hard Disk Recording (HDR) with Laptop and USB-Box on Linux

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by Jan Remmer ter Haseborg, Aug 19, 2003.

  1. Hi,
    is anyone using one of these USB-boxes with mic preamp, A/D-converter and
    phantom power? For example the M-Audio "Mobile Pre USB"?

    I plan to use a Linux-Acer-Laptop (Debian) two Sennheiser mics and
    1) a all-in-one USB-Box
    or
    2) a Behringer mixer with included mic preamps (like UB-1002) and a
    A/D-Converter (like Edirol UA-1A)

    With combination do you recommend?
    Do you recommend special components?
    Would you prefer the components written above?

    I am looking for:
    "quick and easy, light equipment for a ....... (small) price"
    I want to record classical concerts with instruments (organ, piano) and
    vocals for non-commercial use in stereo only.

    Thanks
    Jan Remmer ter Haseborg

    --
    Dipl.-Ing. J.R. ter Haseborg
    Technical University Hamburg-Harburg
  2. Jan Remmer ter Haseborg <J.R.terHaseborg@tuhh.de> wrote:

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    If your laptop has a PCMCIA slot, you might consider one of our
    PDAudio-CF cards and a Mic2496 mic pre/A-to-D. We have Linux ALSA (Open
    Source) drivers available for PDAudio-CF.

    In general, it's a lot simpler to use than a USB device.

    --
    Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
    Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
    Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
    moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
  3. Sugarite

    Sugarite Guest

    > Hi,
    > is anyone using one of these USB-boxes with mic preamp, A/D-converter and
    > phantom power? For example the M-Audio "Mobile Pre USB"?
    >
    > I plan to use a Linux-Acer-Laptop (Debian) two Sennheiser mics and
    > 1) a all-in-one USB-Box
    > or
    > 2) a Behringer mixer with included mic preamps (like UB-1002) and a
    > A/D-Converter (like Edirol UA-1A)
    >
    > With combination do you recommend?
    > Do you recommend special components?
    > Would you prefer the components written above?
    >
    > I am looking for:
    > "quick and easy, light equipment for a ....... (small) price"
    > I want to record classical concerts with instruments (organ, piano) and
    > vocals for non-commercial use in stereo only.


    Save yourself the clutter and hassle, use a Nomad Jukebox 3 instead of the
    laptop. Also, small diaphram condensors are much better suited to room
    recordings than dynamics (don't know who started that trend). I use a Rode
    NT4 stereo mic which would serve you well, but there's plenty of
    alternatives. The Nomad can be used with a mixer like the UB-1002 for very
    reasonable results, but is better with an outboard mic preamp with a/d
    converter like an M-Audio Duo.
  4. Sugarite wrote:
    >
    > Also, small diaphram condensors are much better suited to room
    > recordings than dynamics (don't know who started that trend).


    Which trend? Using condensers instead of dynamics or the other way around?

    Way back in the dark ages when some of us started doing this, condenser
    mics were over $1000 and good dynamics were maybe $150-250. Portable
    recorders didn't have phantom power, and Nagras were about as expensive
    as a small house.
  5. Sugarite <nobody@home.com> wrote:

    > ...The Nomad can be used with a mixer like the UB-1002 for very
    >reasonable results, but is better with an outboard mic preamp with a/d
    >converter like an M-Audio Duo.


    The Duo is a fine mic pre/A-to-D for the price but it isn't easy to make
    it portable. (Though we do it well with our Portable Duo.)

    Instead, your might consider a Denecke AD-20 (for 16/44.1, no phantom
    power) or one of our Mic2496. Mic2496 offers phantom power, 24-bit word
    widths and up to 192 KS/s sample rates.

    --
    Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
    Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
    Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
    moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
  6. Sugarite wrote:

    >> Hi,
    >> is anyone using one of these USB-boxes with mic preamp, A/D-converter and
    >> phantom power? For example the M-Audio "Mobile Pre USB"?
    >>
    >> I plan to use a Linux-Acer-Laptop (Debian) two Sennheiser mics and
    >> 1) a all-in-one USB-Box
    >> or
    >> 2) a Behringer mixer with included mic preamps (like UB-1002) and a
    >> A/D-Converter (like Edirol UA-1A)
    >>
    >> With combination do you recommend?
    >> Do you recommend special components?
    >> Would you prefer the components written above?
    >>
    >> I am looking for:
    >> "quick and easy, light equipment for a ....... (small) price"
    >> I want to record classical concerts with instruments (organ, piano) and
    >> vocals for non-commercial use in stereo only.

    >


    It works great.
    My Configuration
    - Acer Laptop (MediaMarkt, Germany, 1.300 EUR (09/2002))
    - with Debian GNU/Linux (2.4.17-Kernel)
    - installed alsa-driver-0.9.6 (for free, www.alsa-project.org)
    - Audacity software for recording (for free, debian package)
    - UA-1A Edirol/Roland USB-A/D-Converter (www.musik-service.de, 109,- EUR)
    - Behringer mixer UB-1002 (www.musik-service.de, 78,- EUR)
    - some cabels and adapters (www.reichelt.de)
    - 2 Sennheiser Mics (K-series)

    So the Edirol UA-1A WORKS with Linux!
    (USB-hotplugged)

    --
    Dipl.-Ing. J.R. ter Haseborg
    Technische Universit├Ąt Hamburg-Harburg
  7. WillStG

    WillStG Guest

    Sugarite wrote:
    >> Hi, is anyone using one of these USB-boxes with mic preamp, A/D-converter

    and phantom power? For example the M-Audio "Mobile Pre USB"?>>

    >> I am looking for: "quick and easy, light equipment for a ....... (small)

    price" I want to record classical concerts with instruments (organ, piano) and
    vocals for non-commercial use in stereo only. >>

    I am using (among oher things) the firewire based Metric Halo Mobile I/O,
    both the 8 channel 2882 and the 2 channel ULN2 boxes. The 2882 is a great
    deal for the money, excellent converters and easily field powerable from
    external batteries. The 2882's mic pres while sounding good are a bit noisy
    for serious classical recording (except with really hot mics), but the ULN2 has
    very high quality micpres that will probably make you a lot happier recording
    classical and acoustic music than your Behringer micpres ever will.

    >> I plan to use a Linux-Acer-Laptop (Debian) two Sennheiser mics and
    >> 1) a all-in-one USB-Box
    >> or
    >> 2) a Behringer mixer with included mic preamps (like UB-1002) and a
    >> A/D-Converter (like Edirol UA-1A)


    With a firewire port on your computer, your mics and a ULN2, that's all you
    would need. See MHlabs.com


    Will Miho
    NY Music & TV Audio Guy
    Fox And Friends/Fox News
    "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

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