Help! - I need some new instrument cables

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by jimmyd, Aug 17, 2003.

  1. howldog

    howldog Guest

    On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:48:50 GMT, "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net>
    wrote:




    >Sampson.
    >http://www.samsontech.com/products/brandpage.cfm?brandID=5
    >



    very good, thats the one.

    good cable, cheaper and easier than a wireless. wont tangle.
    hasnt broken yet and i've used it at almost every show since i bought
    it.
  2. "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net> wrote

    > > >Right! What is "Armored Cable"? Izzat that faux metal stuff.

    > >
    > >
    > > Thompsor told me about it. I cant remember who makes it.

    >
    > Sampson.
    > http://www.samsontech.com/products/brandpage.cfm?brandID=5


    These are the same people who brough us
    Sampsonite, no? Have they done the gorilla test
    on them cables? I'd pay to see that.

    On a side note, I hear it takes depleted uranium
    platform shoes to scuttle these babies.

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  3. Dan Stanley

    Dan Stanley Guest

    "howldog" <howldog-AINT-NO-SPAM-MAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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    > On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:48:50 GMT, "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > >Sampson.
    > >http://www.samsontech.com/products/brandpage.cfm?brandID=5
    > >

    >
    > very good, thats the one.
    >
    > good cable, cheaper and easier than a wireless. wont tangle.
    > hasnt broken yet and i've used it at almost every show since i bought
    > it.


    I can certainly see how a guitar stud like Thomsor or you could find a use
    for something like that.
    The little short ones, though? Using them to connect effects? Seems like
    overkill, and smacks a little of either short-member syndrome, or someone
    who reads a little too much sci-fi. If you know what I mean.

    My main cables are Spectra-flex. I've had 'em for a long time now, no
    worries. I got them specially made from the boys in the Cuftomme Shoppe, for
    my "personal player profile", so you can see how very very very special I
    am. Indeed. Very special. They don't make a bus short enough, that's how
    special I am.

    Dan
  4. howldog

    howldog Guest

    On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:49:10 GMT, "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net>
    wrote:

    >The little short ones, though? Using them to connect effects? Seems like
    >overkill, and smacks a little of either short-member syndrome, or someone
    >who reads a little too much sci-fi. If you know what I mean.



    or somebody with a penchant for just jamming something in where God
    didnt intend it to go.

    not that theres anything wrong with that.
  5. howldog wrote:

    >i've had two spectraflexes for years now. i dont know about George L
    >sound quality or anything, and i dont care. The Spectraflexes dont
    >break. Ever. thats more important to me.


    I've abused 3 spectraflexes pretty bad and they don't make a
    single crackle ever. They will twist into a pretzel chain in an
    instant though. I like their shorties better than serving as the one
    to my instrument just for the twisty issue.

    You are in a maze of twisty little cables, all different.



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  6. "Jeff Liberatore" wrote:

    >I have one Spectraflex cable that has lasted eons, but it won't stay
    >straight. It's rebellious or something. Wasspwitdat?


    It's the jacket - it proves the Conservation Of Twistyness
    theory. That's why it's so hard to roll up, too. It just doesn't like
    to have any torque on it.



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  7. "Jeff Liberatore" wrote:

    >I got the "Shure" for about $249 (Special JL price at GC)


    UHF ? No beer sign noise issues ? I fear beer signs.



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  8. "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> writes:

    >The pedalboard is powered and also has a soft-shell case the thing fits into..has a shoulder strap as well.


    Anything that's a softshell case concerns me. In fact, I don't even like
    the hard plastic "ATA" case like SKBs for moving stuff around. Having
    said that, if by road use you mean local bar gigs where you haul
    everything yourself in the back of your car it's probably perfectly fine.
    I've lived most of my life with my pedals strapped down to a simple peice
    of scrap plywood. Since I carry it myself and it generally rides on the
    floor of a vehicle around town, no big deal. My actual rack gear is
    usually housed in an Anvil rack though, due to it's price and the fact
    that the weight has more potential for problems when moving it.

    >Oh..and all the pedals are CrazyGlue'd to the pedalboard...you can hold it upside down and they won't budge.


    I wouldn't use glue myself: too permenant if it really holds, or not
    helpful if it doesn't. I use velcro on the bottom and tie-downs across
    the top anytime I mount pedals to anything, whether it's a board, a rack
    tray, or whatever. I always want to be able to move things easily enough
    if I need to. I'm always changing things, replacing cables, etc.

    Ross
  9. howldog

    howldog Guest

    On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:27:51 GMT, Teddy Salad
    <toneguru_uk@see-sig.invalid> wrote:



    >
    >
    > Finally found yer "area of expertise"? Is that what you're finally
    >admitting?
    >



    I'd flame you within an inch of your life but i'm busy, my air pump is
    broken and my date needs a patch.
  10. Teddy Salad

    Teddy Salad Guest

    howldog <howldog-AINT-NO-SPAM-MAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:49:10 GMT, "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >The little short ones, though? Using them to connect effects? Seems like
    > >overkill, and smacks a little of either short-member syndrome, or someone
    > >who reads a little too much sci-fi. If you know what I mean.

    >
    >
    > or somebody with a penchant for just jamming something in where God
    > didnt intend it to go.



    Finally found yer "area of expertise"? Is that what you're finally
    admitting?

    ts

    --
    toneguru_uk-at-yahoo-dot-com
  11. "John S. Shinal" <jshinal_REMOVE_THIS_PART@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    news:3f4487a8.709368349@text-east.newsfeeds.com...
    > "Jeff Liberatore" wrote:


    > >I have one Spectraflex cable that has lasted eons, but it won't stay
    > >straight. It's rebellious or something. Wasspwitdat?


    > It's the jacket - it proves the Conservation Of Twistyness
    > theory. That's why it's so hard to roll up, too. It just doesn't like
    > to have any torque on it.


    That is indeed why those cables (while excellent) are no good for me...

    Jeff
  12. "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message
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    > http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs/Pedalboard.JPG


    I personally wouldn't trust it for gigs, but most guitarists could probably
    use it. You'd know in about 6 mos. if it were gig worthy. I know that I
    would tear it up in a month and stuff would be falling off it... BTW, that's
    a pedalboard, not a rack??? No?

    > The pedalboard is powered and also has a soft-shell case the thing fits

    into..has a shoulder strap as well.

    It takes 2 hands to carry my pedal board... It's heavy duty...

    > Oh..and all the pedals are CrazyGlue'd to the pedalboard...you can hold it

    upside down and they won't >budge.

    Velcro or Lock Tight would probably be a better choice, IMO...

    > Anyway...any thoughts as to this simple layout at my feet..any suggestions

    or something I may need to >worry about?

    You have the wah last? It's the first thing my guitar plugs into. Different
    strokes and stuff. But certainly the Tuner isn't last, right?

    You also may consider putting the smaller pedals down lower (equilateral to
    the bottom of the wah) so your feet don't have to reach higher than the wah
    to turn them on?

    Jeff
  13. Dan Stanley

    Dan Stanley Guest

    "Jeff Liberatore" <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > "John S. Shinal" <jshinal_REMOVE_THIS_PART@mindspring.com> wrote in

    message
    > news:3f4487a8.709368349@text-east.newsfeeds.com...
    > > "Jeff Liberatore" wrote:

    >
    > > >I have one Spectraflex cable that has lasted eons, but it won't stay
    > > >straight. It's rebellious or something. Wasspwitdat?

    >
    > > It's the jacket - it proves the Conservation Of Twistyness
    > > theory. That's why it's so hard to roll up, too. It just doesn't like
    > > to have any torque on it.

    >
    > That is indeed why those cables (while excellent) are no good for me...
    >
    > Jeff


    Canare and Mogami are the least coil-memory laden cables I've ever used. Out
    of my price range, I suppose, but if were a pro, that's what I'd use. Slinky
    smooth, too.

    Dan
  14. As Dan "THE CLEANSER" Stanley put:

    []
    [] > >Sampson.
    [] > >http://www.samsontech.com/products/brandpage.cfm?brandID=5
    [] > >
    [] >
    [] > very good, thats the one.
    [] >
    [] > good cable, cheaper and easier than a wireless. wont tangle.
    [] > hasnt broken yet and i've used it at almost every show since i bought
    [] > it.
    []
    [] I can certainly see how a guitar stud like Thomsor or you could find a use
    [] for something like that.
    [] The little short ones, though? Using them to connect effects? Seems like
    [] overkill, and smacks a little of either short-member syndrome, or someone
    [] who reads a little too much sci-fi. If you know what I mean.

    Reminds me of the cable on phone-booth handsets.

    [] My main cables are Spectra-flex. I've had 'em for a long time now, no
    [] worries.

    I got some for spares, years ago, that I have yet to really use.

    Chris


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  15. As "Jeff Liberatore" <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> so eloquently put
    [] "Not A Speck Of Cereal" <XchrissherwoodX@Xcomcast.netX> wrote in message
    [] news:8p73kvshuuobsac6ui6ipen4nko1s18332@4ax.com...
    []
    [] > Spectraflex is the sh'izzle.
    []
    [] I have one Spectraflex cable that has lasted eons, but it won't stay
    [] straight. It's rebellious or something. Wasspwitdat?

    Dat'sa point: don't coil so well (though I don't have issues with this
    my own bad'sef), but because of this, it don't tangle so much when not
    coiled. I mean, you ain't playing when it's coiled--right?

    Chris


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  16. As "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> so eloquently put:
    [] http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs/Pedalboard.JPG
    [...]
    [] Oh..and all the pedals are CrazyGlue'd to the pedalboard...you can hold it upside down and they won't budge.

    What happens if you want to add, subtract, or swap pedals? I mean, you
    DO shitcan the occasional pedal, don't you?

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  17. As "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net> so eloquently put:
    [] "Jeff Liberatore" <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
    [] > > It's the jacket - it proves the Conservation Of Twistyness
    [] > > theory. That's why it's so hard to roll up, too. It just doesn't like
    [] > > to have any torque on it.
    [] >
    [] > That is indeed why those cables (while excellent) are no good for me...
    [] >
    [] > Jeff
    []
    [] Canare and Mogami are the least coil-memory laden cables I've ever used. Out
    [] of my price range, I suppose, but if were a pro, that's what I'd use. Slinky
    [] smooth, too.

    I got Mogami in the studio--built some insert snakes with it (band
    name alert)--but I figured it was, how you American's say, not
    gig-worthy. Yes? No?

    Chris

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  18. Nobody

    Nobody Guest

    Jeff Liberatore <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in article <8iA0b.28724$dO2.22379@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...
    >
    > "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message


    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs/Pedalboard.JPG

    > I personally wouldn't trust it for gigs, but most guitarists could probably use it. You'd know in about 6 mos. if it were gig

    worthy.

    Makes sense..I can always change it if it doesn't work.

    The case is pretty nice for it...just wondering.

    Anyone else have experience with SKB pedalboards/cases?

    >I know that I would tear it up in a month and stuff would be falling off it... BTW, that's a pedalboard, not a rack??? No?


    Yeah..sorry for the change of subject slightly..I thought of this after reading your posts.

    > The pedalboard is powered and also has a soft-shell case the thing fits into..has a shoulder strap as well.


    > It takes 2 hands to carry my pedal board... It's heavy duty...


    What kind is it, and what's on it typically?

    I'm sure its a 525Q, FD2, FatBoost maybe, and..well..what else?

    > Oh..and all the pedals are CrazyGlue'd to the pedalboard...you can hold it upside down and they won't >budge.


    > Velcro or Lock Tight would probably be a better choice, IMO...


    The SKB-15 came with velcro attachment strips, and the base of the pedalboard itself it velcro.

    Problem was that the wah is heavy, so it came free when I transported it once..I CrazyGlue'd the thing and its been fine ever
    since.

    I know its a little extreme, but I want the pedals to stay right where they are.

    > Anyway...any thoughts as to this simple layout at my feet..any suggestions or something I may need to worry about?


    > You have the wah last? It's the first thing my guitar plugs into. Differen strokes and stuff. But certainly the Tuner isn't last,

    right?>

    The first thing I plug into is the 95Q wah to the right, and the TU-2 tuner is to the left and from there to my amp.

    I plug into the wah and out to amp with the thick George L. cable ( you can see it in the right side of the input into the wah and
    at the output of the tuner on the far left ). The board itself has the thin George L.s to connect the pedals.

    > You also may consider putting the smaller pedals down lower (equilateral to the bottom of the wah) so your feet don't have to

    reach higher than the wah to turn them on?>
    > Jeff


    Excellent idea, and in fact that's why its like that...I am glad to see that the little things like placement of pedals is
    important to you too.

    The thing is that the 95Q has the "on/off" switch in the HEEL of the pedal...so I don't have to do any toe-stomping horseshit to
    turn it on. As a result of that, the rest of the Boss pedals are where they are because its basically in a plane that is even for
    the way my foot works.

    Cool thread.

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    Jason
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  19. Nobody

    Nobody Guest

    Nobody <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in article <01c366ca$794e2fe0$6fc3580c@715162529worldnet.att.net>...

    > http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs/Pedalboard.JPG


    > > You have the wah last? It's the first thing my guitar plugs into. Differen strokes and stuff. But certainly the Tuner isn't

    last,
    > right?>


    Oh..and also...the wah on the right..I have to keep the space open around the red boost button on the bottom right side of the
    pedal..can you see it in the pic? Hope it shows up.

    And wanted to say the tuner is on right..just ended up there because I don't click it as much as the other three pedals, so they
    are on the right for easier on-the-fly stompin'. Its cool too because I use the tuner as a "mute" button of sorts when I can't get
    over to the amp and turn it to stand-by when volume is loud.

    Make sense?


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