Help! - I need some new instrument cables

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by jimmyd, Aug 17, 2003.

  1. Nobody

    Nobody Guest

    Not A Speck Of Cereal <XchrissherwoodX@Xcomcast.netX> wrote in article <7op5kvoclrqhmel39gsdmp9ai1imcb0840@4ax.com>...
    > As "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> so eloquently put:
    > [] http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs/Pedalboard.JPG
    > [...]
    > [] Oh..and all the pedals are CrazyGlue'd to the pedalboard...you can hold it upside down and they won't budge.
    >
    > What happens if you want to add, subtract, or swap pedals? I mean, you
    > DO shitcan the occasional pedal, don't you?


    Makes sense...I haven't glued 'em down until I knew they were keepers and the order was correct and all that.

    But...you *can* just pull them off with force 'cause its just velcro underneath.

    --
    Jason
    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
  2. Nobody

    Nobody Guest

    Ross M Stites <stite001@garnet.tc.umn.edu> wrote in article <bhu290$ack$1@garnet.tc.umn.edu>...
    > "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> writes:
    >
    > >The pedalboard is powered and also has a soft-shell case the thing fits into..has a shoulder strap as well.

    >
    > Anything that's a softshell case concerns me. In fact, I don't even like
    > the hard plastic "ATA" case like SKBs for moving stuff around. Having
    > said that, if by road use you mean local bar gigs where you haul
    > everything yourself in the back of your car it's probably perfectly fine.
    > I've lived most of my life with my pedals strapped down to a simple peice
    > of scrap plywood. Since I carry it myself and it generally rides on the
    > floor of a vehicle around town, no big deal. My actual rack gear is
    > usually housed in an Anvil rack though, due to it's price and the fact
    > that the weight has more potential for problems when moving it.
    >
    > >Oh..and all the pedals are CrazyGlue'd to the pedalboard...you can hold it upside down and they won't budge.

    >
    > I wouldn't use glue myself: too permenant if it really holds, or not
    > helpful if it doesn't. I use velcro on the bottom and tie-downs across
    > the top anytime I mount pedals to anything, whether it's a board, a rack
    > tray, or whatever. I always want to be able to move things easily enough
    > if I need to. I'm always changing things, replacing cables, etc.
    >
    > Ross


    Thanks for the reply, Ross...good reading!

    --
    Jason
    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
  3. Nunya Bidni

    Nunya Bidni Guest

    "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > Anyone else have experience with SKB pedalboards/cases?
    >


    I have an old PS-25. Flimsy POS- fine for your bedroom/rec room/whatever,
    but I wouldn't want to trust it. The case is the only part I use- I had a
    guy in NY state make a 24X12" board out of 3/4" plywood with aluminum
    gussets on the edges and a pair of handles that fits in the case. I use a
    1A Godlyke switching power supply- the daisy chain is Velcroed to the board
    and the wall wart travels in a compartment on my amp case. The pedals
    themselves are bolted to the board, including the wah. I can pick up the
    board by any one pedal.

    I can also stick the board on top of my amp in the amp case to make loading
    in and out a little easier- it fits with about 1/4" to spare in any
    direction, so it's nice and snug. I may follow some of the other
    suggestions in the gig bag thread- when the amp's out of the case, two gig
    bags will fit in there until it's time to put the guitars back in 'em.

    -nyb
  4. As jshinal_REMOVE_THIS_PART@mindspring.com (John S. Shinal) so
    eloquently put:
    []
    [] You are in a maze of twisty little cables, all different.

    Heh.

    ----
    "...there would have been no Holdsworth or
    Hendrix without the genius of Boxcar Willie"
    -- Mark Garvin
    Remove X's from my email address above to reply
    [These opinions are personal views only and only my personal views]
  5. As "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> so eloquently put:
    [] Not A Speck Of Cereal <XchrissherwoodX@Xcomcast.netX> wrote in article <7op5kvoclrqhmel39gsdmp9ai1imcb0840@4ax.com>...
    [] > As "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> so eloquently put:
    [] > [] http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs/Pedalboard.JPG
    [] > [...]
    [] > [] Oh..and all the pedals are CrazyGlue'd to the pedalboard...you can hold it upside down and they won't budge.
    [] >
    [] > What happens if you want to add, subtract, or swap pedals? I mean, you
    [] > DO shitcan the occasional pedal, don't you?
    []
    [] Makes sense...I haven't glued 'em down until I knew they were keepers and the order was correct and all that.
    []
    [] But...you *can* just pull them off with force 'cause its just velcro underneath.

    Velcro underneath CrAzyGlUe? What'sa point?

    Chris

    ----
    "...there would have been no Holdsworth or
    Hendrix without the genius of Boxcar Willie"
    -- Mark Garvin
    Remove X's from my email address above to reply
    [These opinions are personal views only and only my personal views]
  6. "John S. Shinal" <jshinal_REMOVE_THIS_PART@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    news:3f46883a.709514887@text-east.newsfeeds.com...
    > "Jeff Liberatore" wrote:
    >
    > >I got the "Shure" for about $249 (Special JL price at GC)

    >
    > UHF ? No beer sign noise issues ? I fear beer signs.


    Yep... UHF... No problems as of yet.

    Jeff
  7. Nobody

    Nobody Guest

    Not A Speck Of Cereal <XchrissherwoodX@Xcomcast.netX> wrote in article <rds5kvcskffcl4nn2sd3smhdgnlun923qr@4ax.com>...
    > As "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> so eloquently put:
    > [] Not A Speck Of Cereal <XchrissherwoodX@Xcomcast.netX> wrote in article <7op5kvoclrqhmel39gsdmp9ai1imcb0840@4ax.com>...
    > [] > As "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> so eloquently put:
    > [] > [] http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs/Pedalboard.JPG
    > [] > [...]
    > [] > [] Oh..and all the pedals are CrazyGlue'd to the pedalboard...you can hold it upside down and they won't budge.
    > [] >
    > [] > What happens if you want to add, subtract, or swap pedals? I mean, you
    > [] > DO shitcan the occasional pedal, don't you?
    > []
    > [] Makes sense...I haven't glued 'em down until I knew they were keepers and the order was correct and all that.
    > []
    > [] But...you *can* just pull them off with force 'cause its just velcro underneath.
    >
    > Velcro underneath CrAzyGlUe? What'sa point?
    >
    > Chris


    Two posts into it with you, and I already have a headache.

    --
    Jason
    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
  8. "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net> wrote in message
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    > "Jeff Liberatore" <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
    > news:D7A0b.16963$IQ2.2585@fe1.columbus.rr.com...


    > > That is indeed why those cables (while excellent) are no good for me...


    > Canare and Mogami are the least coil-memory laden cables I've ever used.

    Out
    > of my price range, I suppose,


    Oh man... Yeah, they are expensive, but I have my live rig pretty much
    exactly like I've been wanting for quite a while, and the only thing I never
    spent some good $$$ on was cables. It was the last thing I could to be "pro"
    as I could... You would cry if I told you how much I spent... It's
    disgusting, but I could have bought a nice inexpensive little practice amp
    or something for that $$$.

    > but if were a pro, that's what I'd use. Slinky
    > smooth, too.


    Slinky smooth till the bass player shot "silly string" all over everything
    one wild and crazy night. Silly String will NOT come off! See, real pros
    wouldn't use silly string man. I'm just a spend thrift when it comes to
    gear!

    Silly string and titties... The diet of a semi-pro!

    Jeff
  9. "Not A Speck Of Cereal" <XchrissherwoodX@Xcomcast.netX> wrote in message
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    > I got Mogami in the studio--built some insert snakes with it (band
    > name alert)--but I figured it was, how you American's say, not
    > gig-worthy. Yes? No?


    Sure, why not? It's the ends that "typically" make a crappy cord (IMHO,
    anywway)...

    Jeff
  10. "Not A Speck Of Cereal" <XchrissherwoodX@Xcomcast.netX> wrote in message
    news:ejp5kv0vqsut50mh3im91e4p6jd024q8bj@4ax.com...
    > As "Jeff Liberatore" <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> so eloquently put


    > [] I have one Spectraflex cable that has lasted eons, but it won't stay
    > [] straight. It's rebellious or something. Wasspwitdat?


    > Dat'sa point: don't coil so well (though I don't have issues with this
    > my own bad'sef), but because of this, it don't tangle so much when not
    > coiled. I mean, you ain't playing when it's coiled--right?


    Yessiree! I just like to wrap my cables neatly. I have a lot going on and
    it's just easier next gig when I was able to be neat the gig before. Makes
    my set up time faster. I'm a creature of habit with slight anal tendencies.
    I absolutely hate it when something in my rig is not working properly. I
    hate to troubleshoot at a gig. I get all nervous and yell at people when
    stuff isn't just so... I don't like me when I'm like that, so I do whatever
    I can when it come to some preventative maintenance.

    IOW... Do NOT do what I do... Just read and laugh at me... And appreciate
    that your life is probably somewhat easier than mine! ;-)

    I'm like this with everything... It's really kinda' sick...

    Jeff
  11. "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message
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    > Jeff Liberatore <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in article

    <8iA0b.28724$dO2.22379@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...

    > > I personally wouldn't trust it for gigs, but most guitarists could

    probably use it. You'd know in about 6 >>mos. if it were gig
    > worthy.


    > Makes sense..I can always change it if it doesn't work.


    I doubt you would even need to worry about it unless you were doing 120 gigs
    a year, with beer and stuff being poured on your stuff...

    > The case is pretty nice for it...just wondering.


    Yes... It's quite nice, but not big enough for me... I have a friend who has
    one and it suits him just fine...

    > > It takes 2 hands to carry my pedal board... It's heavy duty...


    > What kind is it, and what's on it typically?


    Homemade with 3/4" plywood... Brass handles... Painted black.

    > I'm sure its a 525Q, FD2, FatBoost maybe, and..well..what else?


    535Q, FDII, Fat Boost, Line6 Modulation modeler, real time midi foot
    controller (to bring delays in and out), and a Rocktron Midi-Mate. It's abot
    30 lbs. I think...

    > > Velcro or Lock Tight would probably be a better choice, IMO...


    > The SKB-15 came with velcro attachment strips, and the base of the

    pedalboard itself it velcro.

    It's fine for your application...

    > Problem was that the wah is heavy, so it came free when I transported it

    once..I CrazyGlue'd the thing >and its been fine ever
    > since.


    That's why I have 2 of all my favorite pedals. I hate lugging my pedal board
    down to the studio. Too cumbersome.

    > The thing is that the 95Q has the "on/off" switch in the HEEL of the

    pedal...so I don't have to do any toe-stomping horseshit to
    > turn it on. As a result of that, the rest of the Boss pedals are where

    they are because its basically in a plane that is even for
    > the way my foot works.


    OK..!

    Jeff
  12. "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message
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    > Oh..and also...the wah on the right..I have to keep the space open around

    the red boost button on the bottom right side of the
    > pedal..can you see it in the pic? Hope it shows up.


    Yeah.. I see it... I just leave mine on all the time...

    > And wanted to say the tuner is on right..just ended up there because I

    don't click it as much as the other three pedals, so they
    > are on the right for easier on-the-fly stompin'. Its cool too because I

    use the tuner as a "mute" button of sorts when I can't get
    > over to the amp and turn it to stand-by when volume is loud.


    > Make sense?


    Yep!

    Jeff
  13. "Jeff Liberatore" <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote

    > I'm like this with everything... It's really kinda' sick...


    You WILL be amongst the FIRST against the
    WALL, gringo... when the time comes, yessss.
    You and Mister Most, mm-hmmm.

    --
    Toucan
    "I could never force
    A Three-Legged Cat
    To do anything like that
    To do anything like that"
  14. Les Cargill

    Les Cargill Guest

    Dan Stanley wrote:
    >
    > "Jeff Liberatore" <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
    > news:D7A0b.16963$IQ2.2585@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
    > >
    > > "John S. Shinal" <jshinal_REMOVE_THIS_PART@mindspring.com> wrote in

    > message
    > > news:3f4487a8.709368349@text-east.newsfeeds.com...
    > > > "Jeff Liberatore" wrote:

    > >
    > > > >I have one Spectraflex cable that has lasted eons, but it won't stay
    > > > >straight. It's rebellious or something. Wasspwitdat?

    > >
    > > > It's the jacket - it proves the Conservation Of Twistyness
    > > > theory. That's why it's so hard to roll up, too. It just doesn't like
    > > > to have any torque on it.

    > >
    > > That is indeed why those cables (while excellent) are no good for me...
    > >
    > > Jeff

    >
    > Canare and Mogami are the least coil-memory laden cables I've ever used. Out
    > of my price range, I suppose, but if were a pro, that's what I'd use. Slinky
    > smooth, too.
    >
    > Dan


    Which Canare and Mogami? Star quad only makes sense for balanced applications.

    I still use a bunch of "MARS" brand cables from back when there was MARS,
    titled "AUDIBLE PURITY GUITAR INSTRUMENT CABLE". They're some microphonic,
    but not too bad.

    --
    Les Cargill
  15. Nobody

    Nobody Guest

    Jeff Liberatore <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in article <DYD0b.17256$IQ2.15427@fe1.columbus.rr.com>...

    > I doubt you would even need to worry about it unless you were doing 120 gigs
    > a year, with beer and stuff being poured on your stuff...


    Again..makes sense.

    > Yes... It's quite nice, but not big enough for me... I have a friend who has
    > one and it suits him just fine...


    Cool...hey..but does he gig like you with it?

    > Homemade with 3/4" plywood... Brass handles... Painted black.


    Sounds cool. You need to get some pics of your stuff on a webpage somehow...I can help if you want.

    > I'm sure its a 525Q,


    How the hell did I type "525Q"?

    Sorry...you know I know that we both know what a 535Q is.

    You know?

    >FD2, FatBoost maybe, and..well..what else?


    > 535Q, FDII, Fat Boost, Line6 Modulation modeler,


    The purple one..right? ( don't feel like surfin' over to Line 6.com or whatever it is )

    That's a damn cool pedal, Jeff...sounds pretty damn excellent too IMHO.

    What do you typically set the buttons for when you are playing?

    >real time midi foot controller (to bring delays in and out), and a Rocktron Midi-Mate. It's abot
    > 30 lbs. I think...


    I know what that is....wild.

    But what delays? Where is that coming from? What did I miss?

    > > Problem was that the wah is heavy, so it came free when I transported it

    > once..I CrazyGlue'd the thing >and its been fine ever
    > > since.


    > That's why I have 2 of all my favorite pedals. I hate lugging my pedal board
    > down to the studio. Too cumbersome.


    Heh.

    > > The thing is that the 95Q has the "on/off" switch in the HEEL of the

    > pedal...so I don't have to do any toe-stomping horseshit to
    > > turn it on. As a result of that, the rest of the Boss pedals are where

    > they are because its basically in a plane that is even for
    > > the way my foot works.

    >
    > OK..!
    >
    > Jeff


    But it was an excellent idea you had...I just already was doing it was all.

    Thanks for the help.

    --
    Jason
    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
  16. Nobody

    Nobody Guest

    Jeff Liberatore <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in article <X_D0b.28734$dO2.1006@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...
    >
    > "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message
    > news:01c366cb$40b67740$6fc3580c@715162529worldnet.att.net...
    >
    > > Oh..and also...the wah on the right..I have to keep the space open around

    > the red boost button on the bottom right side of the
    > > pedal..can you see it in the pic? Hope it shows up.

    >
    > Yeah.. I see it... I just leave mine on all the time...


    Wild, Jeff...me too, but at a pretty low boost setting.

    I think we think alike in a lot of things, I just don't know it yet.

    Whatever that means.

    > > And wanted to say the tuner is on right..just ended up there because I

    > don't click it as much as the other three pedals, so they
    > > are on the right for easier on-the-fly stompin'. Its cool too because I

    > use the tuner as a "mute" button of sorts when I can't get
    > > over to the amp and turn it to stand-by when volume is loud.

    >
    > > Make sense?

    >
    > Yep!
    >
    > Jeff


    You're beautiful.

    --
    Jason
    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
  17. howldog

    howldog Guest

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:10:50 GMT, "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net>
    wrote:


    >Canare and Mogami are the least coil-memory laden cables I've ever used. Out
    >of my price range, I suppose, but if were a pro, that's what I'd use. Slinky
    >smooth, too.
    >
    >


    any idea where i can get those cables?

    never even heard of them
  18. howldog

    howldog Guest

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 05:37:50 GMT, "Jeff Liberatore"
    <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote:

    >
    > I'm a creature of habit with slight anal tendencies.
    >I absolutely hate it when something in my rig is not working properly. I
    >hate to troubleshoot at a gig. I get all nervous and yell at people when
    >stuff isn't just so... I don't like me when I'm like that, so I do whatever
    >I can when it come to some preventative maintenance.



    gee whiz. try the decaf, or, a simpler rig ;-)


    i'm set up in about two minutes tops, less if i just use the Zoom
    thingie.

    and its simple as all hell so rarely is anything out of whack.



    >
    >IOW... Do NOT do what I do... Just read and laugh at me... And appreciate
    >that your life is probably somewhat easier than mine! ;-)



    i'm sure your stuff sounds good and you like it so,,,,,,

    i'm just way too lazy to deal with all that, and, our set ups are
    often chaotic as hell, band before us pulling off, while we go on, or
    somethign like that..... in my case, simpler the better.

    amp on a stand, pedalboard on floor, three spectraflexes coiled
    together, marked, plug into pedalboard and then into amp, one armored
    cable, into guitar and then into pedalboard, end of problem.

    head to bar or pool table.



    >
    >I'm like this with everything... It's really kinda' sick...
    >
    >Jeff
    >
    >
  19. "Nobody" <nobodyupstairs@aolDELETE.com> wrote in message
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    > Jeff Liberatore <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote in article

    <DYD0b.17256$IQ2.15427@fe1.columbus.rr.com>...

    > > Yes... It's quite nice, but not big enough for me... I have a friend who

    has
    > > one and it suits him just fine...


    > Cool...hey..but does he gig like you with it?


    He would if he was playing out right now. Me? I'm just completely careful at
    2:00 AM...

    > > Homemade with 3/4" plywood... Brass handles... Painted black.


    > Sounds cool. You need to get some pics of your stuff on a webpage

    somehow...I can help if you want.

    Dude... looks like shit, works like a charm...

    > > 535Q, FDII, Fat Boost, Line6 Modulation modeler,


    > The purple one..right? ( don't feel like surfin' over to Line 6.com or

    whatever it is )

    Yeah, purple (or blue... I have both and get them mixed up)...

    > That's a damn cool pedal, Jeff...sounds pretty damn excellent too IMHO.


    Great value for the $$$!!!

    > What do you typically set the buttons for when you are playing?


    Phaser for a Creed song, tremelo for (whatever, rarely if if ever use it),
    Vibe for when I want to fake Trower or Hendrix, and a wild chorus that I use
    about 4 times a night.

    > But what delays? Where is that coming from? What did I miss?


    Delay is in my rack. It's a TC G-Major... set up your patch so that when the
    pedal is down there's no delay and when you press, you bring it in
    incrementally (I have different delay patches. I like 400 ms a LOT for
    leads)... I also have a patch that brings in an octave below, I also have a
    whammy pedal patch (which is cool)... some other stuff... I like FX live. I
    want people to know I'm there and that's how I get their attention... Also
    depends on my mood, and how stuff sounds in general THAT nite. I play shit
    ALL night long. I make noises, do whammy dives and pulls, splash chorus in a
    quiet part, delay on lead solos. Basically, I use all my gear every night.

    Jeff
  20. "Tukin Fourscan (and seven years ago)"
    <touscan4kin@com-diddley-castaway.net> wrote in message
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    > "Jeff Liberatore" <jliberat@columbus.rr.com> wrote


    > > I'm like this with everything... It's really kinda' sick...


    > You WILL be amongst the FIRST against the
    > WALL, gringo... when the time comes, yessss.
    > You and Mister Most, mm-hmmm.


    Yo Tuk! Don't put me in the same category as Andy! He could do what I do now
    10 years ago. I'm a hack in comparison. That boy can play just about
    anything. He has earned the right to be anal, and I'm just faking it.

    He knows "all the chords"! ;-)

    Jeff

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