Help! Mbox + Laptop w/ WinXP = Ack!

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by MikeTEACHR, Aug 27, 2003.

  1. MikeTEACHR

    MikeTEACHR Guest

    Hello!

    Long story short; I got an Mbox, new for $300. Woohoo, says I.

    My laptop: Toshiba Satellite 5205-S705
    1 Gig Ram
    60 Gig HD
    2.8 GHz
    Windows Media Center Edition
    No external drive as of now

    I install Mbox and Pro Tools LE software. I installed this on a desktop with
    less RAM and a smaller HD, and slower processing speed.

    Problem: I play back one of the included sample tracks, and I get error
    messages; regrarding Hardware Buffer Size. I forget the exact messages, and
    will get them if needed, but long story short,

    as the song plays it halts; error message comes up, and suggests INCREASING H/W
    Buffer Size. I do. theres 256, 512, 1024 and one other lower sample rate.

    So I increase to 512; same message

    So I increase to 1024 sample; song plays then I get a different error message
    saying to DECREASE the Hardware buffer size. It's saying 512 is too little and
    1024 is too much.

    Any suggestions at all on this? Is it the HD? I heard 7200 rpm is suggested for
    MBox/Protools.

    My work: Small radio-production type stuff. I don't imagine using more then 4-8
    tracks for that work, and my home music has yet to demand more tracks then
    that; i'm basically recording synth instrumentals.

    Also: CPU Usage Limit? Suggestions? The manual gives the positives and
    negatives about increasing and decreasing, but little on when to do which and
    why.

    LASTLY: Perhaps Mbox/Protools isnt the way to go for my Work, any other
    suggestions are most helpful.

    Thanx!! in advance. I know these are nebulous questions; but I'm jumping from
    Sound forge 6.0 to ProTools, and for me, it's a big jump.

    Mike
    miketeachr@aol.com
  2. > My laptop: Toshiba Satellite 5205-S705
    > 1 Gig Ram
    > 60 Gig HD
    > 2.8 GHz
    > Windows Media Center Edition
    > No external drive as of now
    >
    > I install Mbox and Pro Tools LE software. I installed this on a desktop with
    > less RAM and a smaller HD, and slower processing speed.


    So, is the problem with the laptop or the desktop with less RAM,
    smaller hard drive, and slower processor? I don't understand what the
    desktop has to do with anything. Did it work on the desktop or
    something? Drivers up to date?

    J
  3. mbenson

    mbenson Guest

    "MikeTEACHR" <miketeachr@aol.com> wrote


    > My laptop: Toshiba Satellite 5205-S705
    > 1 Gig Ram
    > 60 Gig HD
    > 2.8 GHz
    > Windows Media Center Edition
    > No external drive as of now



    That is more than likely a lot of your problem. Laptop internal drives are
    SSSLLLOOOWWW. Probably 4200rpm.


    > I install Mbox and Pro Tools LE software. I installed this on a desktop

    with
    > less RAM and a smaller HD, and slower processing speed.



    Laptops are configured different than desktops for power conservation
    reasons.
    Your laptop probably has a mobile processor too, which is not the same as a
    desktop
    of the same speed.
    One thing you might want to do in setting up a different profile(see below)
    is turn
    off all power saving features. I know on my Sony 1.7ghz , it cuts the
    processor
    down to around 850mhz.


    > Problem: I play back one of the included sample tracks, and I get error
    > messages; regrarding Hardware Buffer Size. I forget the exact messages,

    and
    > will get them if needed, but long story short,
    >
    > as the song plays it halts; error message comes up, and suggests

    INCREASING H/W
    > Buffer Size. I do. theres 256, 512, 1024 and one other lower sample rate.
    >
    > So I increase to 512; same message
    >
    > So I increase to 1024 sample; song plays then I get a different error

    message
    > saying to DECREASE the Hardware buffer size. It's saying 512 is too little

    and
    > 1024 is too much.



    It sounds like you are running out of power. There is quite a bit going on
    in those demos.


    > Any suggestions at all on this? Is it the HD? I heard 7200 rpm is

    suggested for
    > MBox/Protools.



    Get yourself an external firewire drive. They're cheap nowadays.


    > My work: Small radio-production type stuff. I don't imagine using more

    then 4-8
    > tracks for that work, and my home music has yet to demand more tracks then
    > that; i'm basically recording synth instrumentals.



    I would forget about the demo stuff right now and just try working the way
    you work
    with what you have. 8 tracks with a few plugins should NOT bog down the
    laptop
    you have.


    > Also: CPU Usage Limit? Suggestions? The manual gives the positives and
    > negatives about increasing and decreasing, but little on when to do which

    and
    > why.



    Set the CPU to the maximum(85%). Also, you might want to make a couple of
    different profiles. One for everything, and one for audio only. In the audio
    only profile,
    turn off everything running in the background. When you start ProTools, it
    takes over
    whatever amount of processor is available. If you have lots of crap running
    in the
    background, that's less processor you have for ProTools.
    You can also go here:

    http://www.tascam.com/products/computer_recording/W2k_XP_Optimize.pdf

    for some WinXP tweaks that will help you get better perormance.


    > LASTLY: Perhaps Mbox/Protools isnt the way to go for my Work, any other
    > suggestions are most helpful.



    Only you can be the judge of that. I love my little MBox. When I'm on the
    road,
    it does just what I need it to do.
    --
    Mitchell Benson
    OKC Backup
    405.728.7005
  4. Chris Smalt

    Chris Smalt Guest

    Mike wrote:

    > Any suggestions at all on this?



    First check the Digidesign web site for updates. The software CD that
    comes with the Mbox is pretty old, IME.


    Chris
  5. gottmusik@hotmail.com (Jeffrey S. Long) wrote in message news:<69cd9a1c.0308271306.688600ee@posting.google.com>...
    > > My laptop: Toshiba Satellite 5205-S705
    > > 1 Gig Ram
    > > 60 Gig HD
    > > 2.8 GHz
    > > Windows Media Center Edition
    > > No external drive as of now
    > >
    > > I install Mbox and Pro Tools LE software. I installed this on a desktop with
    > > less RAM and a smaller HD, and slower processing speed.

    >

    Are you sure that your OS is compatible w/ PTLE? I thought most Digi
    stuff wanted WXP.

    Philip Perkins
  6. jd-10

    jd-10 Guest

    In article <1e7ce5af.0308271925.11e247ea@posting.google.com>,
    philper@jong.com (Philip Perkins) wrote:

    > gottmusik@hotmail.com (Jeffrey S. Long) wrote in message
    > news:<69cd9a1c.0308271306.688600ee@posting.google.com>...
    > > > My laptop: Toshiba Satellite 5205-S705
    > > > 1 Gig Ram
    > > > 60 Gig HD
    > > > 2.8 GHz
    > > > Windows Media Center Edition
    > > > No external drive as of now
    > > >
    > > > I install Mbox and Pro Tools LE software. I installed this on a
    > > > desktop with less RAM and a smaller HD, and slower processing
    > > > speed.


    Get a Mac.
    --
    JD-10

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