Help with home studio

Discussion in 'alt.music.midi' started by Via Nite, Aug 14, 2003.

  1. Via Nite

    Via Nite Guest

    I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I have a
    Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file player.
    I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What I
    need is a step by step guide on how to do this.

    The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very helpful.

    Thanks for any advice.
    V
  2. frank booth

    frank booth Guest

    best advice is to go to something like "alt.cubase" or "alt.sonar" for
    detailed FAQs on how to set these puppies up.

    laurence payne, dp and those sort of guys really know their onions.




    "Via Nite" <vianite@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
    news:bhfg8j$1tf$1@merki.connect.com.au...
    > I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    > [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I have

    a
    > Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file

    player.
    > I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What I
    > need is a step by step guide on how to do this.
    >
    > The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very helpful.
    >
    > Thanks for any advice.
    > V
    >
    >
  3. rb

    rb Guest

    a step by step guide on disabling the sound card? If that's your question I
    can help. The other stuff I can't help with.

    1. see if you can disable your sound card in bios
    2. if not there should be an onboard jumper to disable sound. You may need
    a motherboard/jumper diagram to see which one it is if you're unfamiliar
    with it.
    "Via Nite" <vianite@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
    news:bhfg8j$1tf$1@merki.connect.com.au...
    > I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    > [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I have

    a
    > Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file

    player.
    > I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What I
    > need is a step by step guide on how to do this.
    >
    > The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very helpful.
    >
    > Thanks for any advice.
    > V
    >
    >
    >
  4. frank booth

    frank booth Guest

    "rb" <raynebringer@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
    news:qYH_a.978$MY1.282@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
    > a step by step guide on disabling the sound card? If that's your question

    I
    > can help. The other stuff I can't help with.
    >
    > 1. see if you can disable your sound card in bios


    i think that the onboard sounds(VIA97 etc) can be disabled in BIOS(as you
    pointed out) or in the system/device manager page.
  5. dickydoo

    dickydoo Guest

    They never are helpful once you have handed over the dosh. try asking at
    alt.music.midi newsgroup.
    "Via Nite" <vianite@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
    news:bhfg8j$1tf$1@merki.connect.com.au...
    > I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    > [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I have

    a
    > Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file

    player.
    > I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What I
    > need is a step by step guide on how to do this.
    >
    > The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very helpful.
    >
    > Thanks for any advice.
    > V
    >
    >
  6. dickydoo

    dickydoo Guest

    They never are helpful once you have handed over the dosh. try asking at
    alt.music.midi newsgroup.
    "Via Nite" <vianite@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
    news:bhfg8j$1tf$1@merki.connect.com.au...
    > I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    > [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I have

    a
    > Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file

    player.
    > I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What I
    > need is a step by step guide on how to do this.
    >
    > The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very helpful.
    >
    > Thanks for any advice.
    > V
    >
    >
  7. dickydoo

    dickydoo Guest

    They never are helpful once you have handed over the dosh.
    "Via Nite" <vianite@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
    news:bhfg8j$1tf$1@merki.connect.com.au...
    > I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    > [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I have

    a
    > Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file

    player.
    > I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What I
    > need is a step by step guide on how to do this.
    >
    > The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very helpful.
    >
    > Thanks for any advice.
    > V
    >
    >
  8. dickydoo

    dickydoo Guest

    They never are helpful once you have handed over the dosh.
    "Via Nite" <vianite@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
    news:bhfg8j$1tf$1@merki.connect.com.au...
    > I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    > [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I have

    a
    > Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file

    player.
    > I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What I
    > need is a step by step guide on how to do this.
    >
    > The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very helpful.
    >
    > Thanks for any advice.
    > V
    >
    >
  9. dickydoo

    dickydoo Guest

    Sorry about all the posts , dont know what happend there.
    "dickydoo" <dickydoo@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
    news:_wJ_a.116101$JA5.2615777@news.xtra.co.nz...
    > They never are helpful once you have handed over the dosh.
    > "Via Nite" <vianite@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
    > news:bhfg8j$1tf$1@merki.connect.com.au...
    > > I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    > > [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I

    have
    > a
    > > Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file

    > player.
    > > I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What

    I
    > > need is a step by step guide on how to do this.
    > >
    > > The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very

    helpful.
    > >
    > > Thanks for any advice.
    > > V
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    >
  10. frank booth

    frank booth Guest

    "dickydoo" <dickydoo@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
    news:yzJ_a.116105$JA5.2615781@news.xtra.co.nz...
    > Sorry about all the posts ,


    no worries dickydoodoodoodoodoodoodoodoo!

    dont know what happend there.
    > "dickydoo" <dickydoo@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
    > news:_wJ_a.116101$JA5.2615777@news.xtra.co.nz...
    > > They never are helpful once you have handed over the dosh.
    > > "Via Nite" <vianite@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
    > > news:bhfg8j$1tf$1@merki.connect.com.au...
    > > > I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new

    computer
    > > > [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I

    > have
    > > a
    > > > Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file

    > > player.
    > > > I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should

    disable.What
    > I
    > > > need is a step by step guide on how to do this.
    > > >
    > > > The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very

    > helpful.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks for any advice.
    > > > V
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  11. JB Seattle

    JB Seattle Guest

    If you disable the souncard, you will not be able to use the WDM dirvers for
    the VSC or any other DXi synth. The problem is with the MBox, it is not
    likely compatible with Sonar.
    We tested Sonar and quite frankly for external audio and midi input it
    sucks.
    Nevertheless, try this first. Remove Sonar completely from your PC. Make
    sure you have the MBox on and selected as the default audio source in
    Control Panel, then let Sonar try to find it on Install.
    But frankly, if you have Pro Tools, all you need Sonar for is the VSC DXi
    synth.
    To get it to work, you need to load your midi file or enable and arm one
    midi track for recording. Then open an audio track. Goto the FX tab in
    the audio track and the pull down menu will give you a choice of DXi synths.
    Select the VSC.
    Go back to your midi tracks and put their outputs to the VSC.
    Then if and when you export you must enable the outputs first to the VSC and
    then export to wav.
    The instructions in the XL package take you step by step.
    That is all I use Sonar for. For most midi I use Powertracks and for audio
    use Cool Edite Pro.
    If you have Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 and it sees your MBox, use it for audio.
    JB
    "Via Nite" <vianite@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
    news:bhfg8j$1tf$1@merki.connect.com.au...
    > I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    > [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I have

    a
    > Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file

    player.
    > I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What I
    > need is a step by step guide on how to do this.
    >
    > The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very helpful.
    >
    > Thanks for any advice.
    > V
    >
    >
    >
  12. Via Nite

    Via Nite Guest

    Thanks all for advice [see post below],

    This is where I've got to-
    I've been able to disable the on board sound card but, in sounds and audio
    devices within Control panel there is no mbox. I've reinstalled the
    software
    a number of times. [ I presume the software relates to protools and mbox as
    a sound card.

    I can open protools and it will play audio but no other sound things work,
    like for instance my CD drive. When I open media player I get a message
    back saying there is no audio device.

    I note that a plug in version of VST Instruments and DXi comes with the VSC.
    Does this mean there is no real advantage in me having SONAR as well as
    protools
    to record midi and audio?

    Anymore help would be appreciated.

    My original post was:

    I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I have a
    Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file player.
    I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What I
    need is a step by step guide on how to do this.

    The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very helpful.

    Thanks for any advice.
    V
  13. JB Seattle

    JB Seattle Guest

    The VSC DXi in Sonar requires the WDN Drivers for a soundcard that uses them
    and you just disabled them. The problem is the MBox, not the soundcard. It
    is likely not fully XP compatible.
    JB
    "Via Nite" <vianite@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
    news:bhjsgf$l4m$1@merki.connect.com.au...
    > Thanks all for advice [see post below],
    >
    > This is where I've got to-
    > I've been able to disable the on board sound card but, in sounds and audio
    > devices within Control panel there is no mbox. I've reinstalled the
    > software
    > a number of times. [ I presume the software relates to protools and mbox

    as
    > a sound card.
    >
    > I can open protools and it will play audio but no other sound things work,
    > like for instance my CD drive. When I open media player I get a message
    > back saying there is no audio device.
    >
    > I note that a plug in version of VST Instruments and DXi comes with the

    VSC.
    > Does this mean there is no real advantage in me having SONAR as well as
    > protools
    > to record midi and audio?
    >
    > Anymore help would be appreciated.
    >
    > My original post was:
    >
    > I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    > [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I have

    a
    > Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file

    player.
    > I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What I
    > need is a step by step guide on how to do this.
    >
    > The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very helpful.
    >
    > Thanks for any advice.
    > V
    >
    >
  14. Via Nite

    Via Nite Guest

    Does the DXi that came with the Edirol VSC Multipack [not Sonar] also
    require the WDN drivers?

    "JB Seattle" <shnoozle8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:mGt%a.5515$Nf3.905@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > The VSC DXi in Sonar requires the WDN Drivers for a soundcard that uses

    them
    > and you just disabled them. The problem is the MBox, not the soundcard.

    It
    > is likely not fully XP compatible.
    > JB
    > "Via Nite" <vianite@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
    > news:bhjsgf$l4m$1@merki.connect.com.au...
    > > Thanks all for advice [see post below],
    > >
    > > This is where I've got to-
    > > I've been able to disable the on board sound card but, in sounds and

    audio
    > > devices within Control panel there is no mbox. I've reinstalled the
    > > software
    > > a number of times. [ I presume the software relates to protools and mbox

    > as
    > > a sound card.
    > >
    > > I can open protools and it will play audio but no other sound things

    work,
    > > like for instance my CD drive. When I open media player I get a message
    > > back saying there is no audio device.
    > >
    > > I note that a plug in version of VST Instruments and DXi comes with the

    > VSC.
    > > Does this mean there is no real advantage in me having SONAR as well as
    > > protools
    > > to record midi and audio?
    > >
    > > Anymore help would be appreciated.
    > >
    > > My original post was:
    > >
    > > I'm trying to get SONAR XL, Protools Mbox, Roland VSC on my new computer
    > > [pentium 4] to work together so that I can record midi and audio. I

    have
    > a
    > > Roland midi keyboard controller [pc300] and a roland MC80 midi file

    > player.
    > > I also have an on-board sound card which I'm told I should disable.What

    I
    > > need is a step by step guide on how to do this.
    > >
    > > The sales people and the device manufacturers have not been very

    helpful.
    > >
    > > Thanks for any advice.
    > > V
    > >
    > >

    >
    >

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