Intel P4 EE & AMD Athlon 64

Discussion in 'Computers' started by Nice For Ice, Nov 22, 2003.

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Which is the better CPU?

  1. Intel Pentium 4 HT Extreme Edition [2MB Cache]

    10 vote(s)
    55.6%
  2. AMD Athlon 64 [64 Bit]

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    44.4%
  1. Nice For Ice

    Nice For Ice New Member

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    So what would you get if you had to choose?

    is 64 bit better than 2mb cache?
    or is 2mb cache better than 64bit?


    Intel P4EE HT
    [junk]
    Speeds Supporting Hyper-Threading Technology 800 MHz system bus: 3.20 GHz
    System Bus 800 MHz
    Cache L3: 2MB, L2: 512KB, L1: 8KB
    Chipset 800 MHz system bus: Intel® 875P, 865PE, 865G chipsets
    Intel® Desktop Motherboards Compatible with the Intel Pentium 4 Processor
    Intel NetBurst Microarchitecture 800 MHz system bus
    Hyper-pipelined technology
    Rapid execution engine
    Execution trace cache
    Advanced transfer cache
    Advanced dynamic execution
    Enhanced floating point/multimedia
    Streaming SIMD 2

    Available Intel® RAID Technology Intel® RAID Technology is available on the Intel® 875P, 865PE, 865G chipsets with ICH5R.
    [/junk]

    AMD Athlon 64
    [junk]
    Architecture Introduction 2003
    Infrastructure Socket 940
    Process Technology 0.13 Micron, SOI
    Number of Transistors 105.9 Million
    64-bit Instruction Set Support Yes,
    AMD64 technology
    32-bit Instruction Set Support Yes
    System Bus Technology HyperTransport™ technology @ up to 1600 MHz
    Full duplex
    Integrated DDR Memory Controller (MCT) Yes,
    128-bit + 16-bit ECC
    PC3200*, PC 2700, PC 2100, or PC1600
    Total Processor-to-System Bandwidth HyperTransport bandwidth: up to 6.4 GB/s
    Memory bandwidth: up to 6.4 GB/s
    Total: up to 12.8 GB/s
    Integrated Northbridge Yes,
    128-bit data path @ CPU core frequency
    High-Performance, On-chip Cache L1: 128KB
    L2: 1024KB (exclusive)
    Total Effective Cache: 1152KB
    3D and Multimedia Instructions 3DNow!™ Professional technology, SSE2
    [/junk]
  2. KingXII

    KingXII S MOD

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    Currently, I would choose the P4 EE, it currently is what I need since it is basiclly a Xeon cpu, although it won't handle as much memory as a 64bit cpu, but until windows 64 and programs that run at 64 bit are avalible on the market extra ram in excess of 4gb would be a waste. The future will be 64bit but the need for such a cpu is still in the future. AMD 64 bit cpu is able to handle 32bit and 64 bit programs but a cpu that is designed for a single instruction set will ultimately do a better job at it.
  3. Zandro

    Zandro New Member

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    I doubt Windows will ever make it to a 64-bit environment. Longhorn may be their last project before Microsoft loses all control over the computer industry. King's right; there really is no need for a 64-bit processor at this time, so my choice is the P4 EE.
  4. NaDuHCoP

    NaDuHCoP MIDI COP

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    PENTIUM is the only way to go.
  5. KingXII

    KingXII S MOD

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    ahem, Windows XP 64 is being released in mid-2004.
  6. Zandro

    Zandro New Member

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    Do you really think Microsoft will last that long?
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2006
  7. hui4o

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    I WOULD GO FOR P4.I THINK IS MORE RELIABLE THEN AMD
  8. NeGe0

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    I actually like Pentiums but the new A64's are awesome. For what it costs for the P4 EE's compaired to the A64's, your getting much better value. The A64's cost less than half of the P4 EE and gives you just about the exact if not better performance. There is a 64-bit version of windows already out. It is currently in the beta stage and the final will be released soon. I would definitly not waste my money on the P4 EE's and get a A64, mobo, and good ram for the price of the p4 EE. If you want you could get the FX 51 and cost about the same if not less and give you better performance over the P4 EE. They don't run as hot and are a lot easier to overclock. The P4 EE was a less minute effort to try and stay in the game.
  9. chops999

    chops999 New Member

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    I think the p4ee is the better chip but at the price difference does not justify the performance difference. That why i went a64 & i have to say i am very happy with it :p
  10. GoldenBear

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    Nothing changes. Intel's chips have always been the best preforming chips but they are all not worth what Intel charges for them.

    Plus, moving to 64-bit opens you up to things other than just faster processing (More RAM, etc).

    In the end it really depends on what you use it for....



    But I'd take duallie Opterons :p

    -GB
  11. HBKid11111

    HBKid11111 New Member

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    I like AMd better, and from what i heard its possible to reach an FSB speed of liike 1600 mHz with the 64. Maybe right now it doent make much sense cause you dont see a huge benefit while running 32 bit apps, but it still preforms comprabaly to a P4 EE. But for gaming its gonna be thew way to go
  12. gste

    gste New Member

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    P4 is more reliable. AMD gets too hot
  13. johnrowley

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    P4's are over expensive and AMD paste them in pure speed. If AMD was not around then we would be suffering extremely high prices for P4. I like the competition. Perhaps the IT boom and speed might peak in another 20 years, by then we might have spaceships powered by Linux! and AMD or Pentium or perhaps something else?
  14. boredome1a

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    MAximum PC just did a test on the new Pentium 4 Presscott, and found that it's performance still lags behind that of the P4 EE and the AMD FX 64.
    The article is a must read! It explains quite alot about how much power these processors can pack.
  15. soccercrzy87

    soccercrzy87 New Member

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    intel is my choice :)
  16. Fmt662

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    i think the P4EE is superior to the AMDs.
    i really trust my Intel to work better and more reliably
  17. Grayson

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    To me, I'm going to be building a new computer system packed with a high-end motherboard (ASUS), high-end memory, and a high-end AMD Athlon64 processor, along with (although I didn't mean to go off-topic) a high-end video card with a Vertex and Pixel Shader version 3.0! :) :cool: :thumbsup:
  18. KingXII

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    Prescott only has 1mb L2 cache while p4EE has 2mb L2 cache, p4EE is basiclly a xeon cpu made slightly more for the mainstream. There's not much that can actually use 64bit yet. Even though the FX64 is on par with the p4EE on many applications and games, it's just that the FX is slightly faster in gaming, and the p4EE is slightly faster in office applications like those two has always been after the release of athlon.

    The main thing is to figure out what the computer is mainly used for, intel for graphics and office apps oreiented, and amd for gaming, but the difference is somewhat small, but it all adds up say if you were to be encoding say videos, every second adds up.
  19. TOP_ACTION

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    well amd 64 are really good but compared to the 2mb p4 maybe the p4 got a little advantage
  20. johnrowley

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    AMD64 rocks! Have upgraded from a P3 and it is stable with win98 and 512 of DDR ram. Board is a Gigabyte 7 with Raid and SATA. Excellent value for money.

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