Iron Cobra pedals suck. And/or blow. Discuss.

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by Stephen Mulholland, Aug 29, 2003.

  1. Well, of course, it's just a personal opinion. I bought an Iron Cobra a
    while ago. I'd been using the Pearl 201-P for years, but it had just got a
    bit too rattly and worn, so I thought I'd give the Iron Cobra a shot. I
    tried it out in the store, it felt good there, but I just haven't been able
    to get it to feel good on the gig. BTW - I don't really think the pedal
    sucks. It's beautifully made, smooth and silent, I can't fault the
    engineering on it at all. It's just that I can't get it to feel
    comfortable, no matter WHAT I adjust.

    Anyone else not feel comfy with the Iron Cobra?

    Stephen
  2. Dik LeDoux

    Dik LeDoux Guest

    I've got the Pearl Elim/strap drive, but when I got my Tamas they had the
    IC. It took some adjusting, but I got it to feel a lot like the Eliminator.
    It still has a bit of a heavier feel - probably cuz I put the Pearl 4-sided
    beater on it and it IS a more massive pedal. But after doing some
    twiddling, it's so much like my Elim I don't even think about it.

    Dik

    "Stephen Mulholland" <stephenmulhollanduk@OBVIOUSyahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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    > Well, of course, it's just a personal opinion. I bought an Iron Cobra a
    > while ago. I'd been using the Pearl 201-P for years, but it had just got

    a
    > bit too rattly and worn, so I thought I'd give the Iron Cobra a shot. I
    > tried it out in the store, it felt good there, but I just haven't been

    able
    > to get it to feel good on the gig. BTW - I don't really think the pedal
    > sucks. It's beautifully made, smooth and silent, I can't fault the
    > engineering on it at all. It's just that I can't get it to feel
    > comfortable, no matter WHAT I adjust.
    >
    > Anyone else not feel comfy with the Iron Cobra?
    >
    > Stephen
    >
    >
  3. "Stephen Mulholland" <stephenmulhollanduk@OBVIOUSyahoo.co.uk> wrote in
    message news:KPH3b.2419$FZ3.457880@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
    > Well, of course, it's just a personal opinion. I bought an Iron Cobra a
    > while ago. I'd been using the Pearl 201-P for years, but it had just got

    a
    > bit too rattly and worn, so I thought I'd give the Iron Cobra a shot. I
    > tried it out in the store, it felt good there, but I just haven't been

    able
    > to get it to feel good on the gig. BTW - I don't really think the pedal
    > sucks. It's beautifully made, smooth and silent, I can't fault the
    > engineering on it at all. It's just that I can't get it to feel
    > comfortable, no matter WHAT I adjust.


    Stephen,
    I agree. The ICs are built very well (as all Tama hardware is, IMO) and
    are very smooth, but I can't stand the way they feel. I've had students who
    bought it because of the cool name and/or the cool ad in MD, but then later
    sold it because they didn't like the way it played.

    CM
  4. Michel

    Michel Guest

    It may help us help you if you can be a bit more explicit about what
    it is that doesn't feel right. My IC felt fantastic right out of the
    box. After fiddling a bit with it, it felt even better. It is an
    extremely adjustable pedal so I'm sure you can find the right
    adjustment for your style

    Michel
    --
    " we get old too soon and smart too late"



    "Stephen Mulholland" <stephenmulhollanduk@OBVIOUSyahoo.co.uk> wrote
    > Well, of course, it's just a personal opinion. I bought an Iron Cobra a
    > while ago. I'd been using the Pearl 201-P for years, but it had just got a
    > bit too rattly and worn, so I thought I'd give the Iron Cobra a shot. I
    > tried it out in the store, it felt good there, but I just haven't been able
    > to get it to feel good on the gig. BTW - I don't really think the pedal
    > sucks. It's beautifully made, smooth and silent, I can't fault the
    > engineering on it at all. It's just that I can't get it to feel
    > comfortable, no matter WHAT I adjust.
    >
    > Anyone else not feel comfy with the Iron Cobra?
    >
    > Stephen
  5. Tony Kujawa

    Tony Kujawa Guest

    Why didn't you go with the Eliminator? I've had both and like both. Maybe
    it's the lightweight beater on the IC, try putting your old one on it.
    Also, did you get the strap, offset cam (ptw), or round cam?

    Tony


    "Stephen Mulholland" <stephenmulhollanduk@OBVIOUSyahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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    > Well, of course, it's just a personal opinion. I bought an Iron Cobra a
    > while ago. I'd been using the Pearl 201-P for years, but it had just got

    a
    > bit too rattly and worn, so I thought I'd give the Iron Cobra a shot. I
    > tried it out in the store, it felt good there, but I just haven't been

    able
    > to get it to feel good on the gig. BTW - I don't really think the pedal
    > sucks. It's beautifully made, smooth and silent, I can't fault the
    > engineering on it at all. It's just that I can't get it to feel
    > comfortable, no matter WHAT I adjust.
    >
    > Anyone else not feel comfy with the Iron Cobra?
    >
    > Stephen
    >
    >
  6. Dan Radin

    Dan Radin Guest

    "Stephen Mulholland" <stephenmulhollanduk@OBVIOUSyahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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    > Anyone else not feel comfy with the Iron Cobra?


    I used my IC strap constantly for about six years until I bought the DW 9k
    Titanium. I still use the IC occasionally and have no problem with it. You
    just have to get them set up the way you like them and leave them forever.
    But I do know what you're talking about: I have never met a DW 5k I've been
    able to get comfortable for me, despite loving the 9k Ti. Go figure.
    Personal prefs. One piece of advice I could give you is to experiment with
    beaters. The IC beaters are way too light for me. I generally go back and
    for between the felt and plastic sides of the DW and the wood Danmars. I
    like a heavy beater...I'd rather let the weight do the work than my leg,
    dig?
  7. Hairy Pants

    Hairy Pants Guest

    I had the IC doubles about a year. I thought they were fantastic, but I
    didnt use the doubles much so sold them and bought a Pearl Eliminator
    single.

    I have to say I don't like the Eliminator as much. Not sure why, it just
    doesn't feel as solid as the IC did. Perhaps it's what you get used to that
    decides what you like or don't like? I don't like having to muck around with
    the settings to make the pedal feel the way I expect. The IC was perfect
    right out of the box.

    "Stephen Mulholland" <stephenmulhollanduk@OBVIOUSyahoo.co.uk> wrote in
    message news:KPH3b.2419$FZ3.457880@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
    > Well, of course, it's just a personal opinion. I bought an Iron Cobra a
    > while ago. I'd been using the Pearl 201-P for years, but it had just got

    a
    > bit too rattly and worn, so I thought I'd give the Iron Cobra a shot. I
    > tried it out in the store, it felt good there, but I just haven't been

    able
    > to get it to feel good on the gig. BTW - I don't really think the pedal
    > sucks. It's beautifully made, smooth and silent, I can't fault the
    > engineering on it at all. It's just that I can't get it to feel
    > comfortable, no matter WHAT I adjust.
    >
    > Anyone else not feel comfy with the Iron Cobra?
    >
    > Stephen
    >
    >
  8. kujawat

    kujawat Guest

    I set the eliminators up just like my IC was. The only reason I got rid of
    the IC was the adjustability of the Pearl. The IC felt .000001% better to
    me, but the ability to change the cams of the elim sold me on it.

    Tony

    "Hairy Pants" <drakor@telus.net> wrote in message
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    > I had the IC doubles about a year. I thought they were fantastic, but I
    > didnt use the doubles much so sold them and bought a Pearl Eliminator
    > single.
    >
    > I have to say I don't like the Eliminator as much. Not sure why, it just
    > doesn't feel as solid as the IC did. Perhaps it's what you get used to

    that
    > decides what you like or don't like? I don't like having to muck around

    with
    > the settings to make the pedal feel the way I expect. The IC was perfect
    > right out of the box.
    >
    > "Stephen Mulholland" <stephenmulhollanduk@OBVIOUSyahoo.co.uk> wrote in
    > message news:KPH3b.2419$FZ3.457880@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
    > > Well, of course, it's just a personal opinion. I bought an Iron Cobra a
    > > while ago. I'd been using the Pearl 201-P for years, but it had just

    got
    > a
    > > bit too rattly and worn, so I thought I'd give the Iron Cobra a shot. I
    > > tried it out in the store, it felt good there, but I just haven't been

    > able
    > > to get it to feel good on the gig. BTW - I don't really think the pedal
    > > sucks. It's beautifully made, smooth and silent, I can't fault the
    > > engineering on it at all. It's just that I can't get it to feel
    > > comfortable, no matter WHAT I adjust.
    > >
    > > Anyone else not feel comfy with the Iron Cobra?
    > >
    > > Stephen
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  9. "Dan Radin" <dan.radin@verizon.net> wrote in message
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    > "Stephen Mulholland" <stephenmulhollanduk@OBVIOUSyahoo.co.uk> wrote in
    > message news:KPH3b.2419$FZ3.457880@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
    > > Anyone else not feel comfy with the Iron Cobra?

    >


    One piece of advice I could give you is to experiment with
    > beaters.


    This may well be the problem, Dan. The Pearl beater is a fair bit heavier.
    I'll swap the IC beater for it tonight and see how it feels.

    Stephen
  10. rick

    rick Guest

    Funny you should mention the Eliminator. Mine sits in the case because I
    still can't get the right "feel" (it has to be in there somewhere). I've
    been using a $99 Percussion Plus double-pedal for 3 years, and it kills me
    to let the Eliminator sit. I've been futzing with it for about 3 months
    now, trying just about every combination of adjustments possible, but I just
    haven't found THE combination. About the only thing I haven't tried is
    putting a spring on the slave (like on the P.P.). Oh well........

    Rick
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    "Tony Kujawa" <tonykujawa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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    > Why didn't you go with the Eliminator? I've had both and like both.

    Maybe
    > it's the lightweight beater on the IC, try putting your old one on it.
    > Also, did you get the strap, offset cam (ptw), or round cam?
    >
    > Tony
    >
    >
    > "Stephen Mulholland" <stephenmulhollanduk@OBVIOUSyahoo.co.uk> wrote in
    > message news:KPH3b.2419$FZ3.457880@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
    > > Well, of course, it's just a personal opinion. I bought an Iron Cobra a
    > > while ago. I'd been using the Pearl 201-P for years, but it had just

    got
    > a
    > > bit too rattly and worn, so I thought I'd give the Iron Cobra a shot. I
    > > tried it out in the store, it felt good there, but I just haven't been

    > able
    > > to get it to feel good on the gig. BTW - I don't really think the pedal
    > > sucks. It's beautifully made, smooth and silent, I can't fault the
    > > engineering on it at all. It's just that I can't get it to feel
    > > comfortable, no matter WHAT I adjust.
    > >
    > > Anyone else not feel comfy with the Iron Cobra?
    > >
    > > Stephen
    > >
    > >

    >
    >

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