Lousy Retail/Service Workers (was: First time at GC)

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by -MIKE-, Sep 1, 2003.

  1. -MIKE-

    -MIKE- Guest

    This is one unfortunate byproduct of a good economy and low
    unemployment rates. There is no incentive to do a good job, let
    alone an excellent one, when you know you can walk across the street
    and get the same job, tomorrow-- probably for higher pay, because
    you now have, "experience." :)


    I find the hard and fast rule of thumb in the service/retail
    industry is that quality and excellence start at the top and work
    down, and vice versa.

    Show me a fast food joint with lousy service, bad food & bad
    attitudes from the staff, and I guarantee you the shift manager has
    no control of the staff, treats them like play pals instead of
    employees, and has an un-tucked, greasy shirt. I'll show you a
    manager who spends more time smoking behind the dumpster than
    training his employees, has a Playstation in his office, flirts with
    the teenaged drive-thru girls, and has never cleaned the toilet nor
    mopped up a spill.

    The general manager's attitude and work ethic will filter down to
    the managers and shift managers, down to the newest employees. Show
    me a check-out girl with a smile and clean shirt who is working
    hard, and I'll show you a shift manager who is on top of things,
    taking care of the little details, in charge and delegating
    authority. Show me a kid taking out the trash and mopping the
    floors 6 times a day, with a good attitude and a hop in his step,
    and I'll show you a general manager who has sales awards and
    community recognition plaques hanging up on the wall, who runs out
    to the dining area, mop in hand, any time he hears a tray hit the
    floor.


    -MIKE-

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    > The staff at my local Burger King are utterly incompetant and obnoxious...
    > they make no effort to help customers, be nice, be quick. McDonalds is
    > only slightly better. These places would get so much more business (they
    > have mine, but only for convenience value if there's nowhere else open) if
    > they properly trained their staff.
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    >
  2. Glenn Dowdy

    Glenn Dowdy Guest

    "-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
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    > This is one unfortunate byproduct of a good economy and low
    > unemployment rates.


    Let me know when the good economy with low unemployment comes back around.
    I'm still looking for a non-temp job.

    Glenn D.
  3. -MIKE-

    -MIKE- Guest

    >> This is one unfortunate byproduct of a good economy and low
    >> unemployment rates.

    >
    > Let me know when the good economy with low unemployment comes back around.
    > I'm still looking for a non-temp job.
    >
    > Glenn D.
    >


    You have a short memory if you think this economy is bad. Relative
    to the past decade, maybe it's down. But relative to the past
    century, doesn't get much better aside from utopia.


    -MIKE-

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  4. Glenn Dowdy

    Glenn Dowdy Guest

    "-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
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    > >> This is one unfortunate byproduct of a good economy and low
    > >> unemployment rates.

    > >
    > > Let me know when the good economy with low unemployment comes back

    around.
    > > I'm still looking for a non-temp job.
    > >
    > > Glenn D.
    > >

    >
    > You have a short memory if you think this economy is bad. Relative
    > to the past decade, maybe it's down. But relative to the past
    > century, doesn't get much better aside from utopia.
    >

    Better in general; to me, it could be a lot better. Besides, I wasn't in the
    workforce for most of the last century. ;)

    Glenn D.
  5. "-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
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    > >> This is one unfortunate byproduct of a good economy and low
    > >> unemployment rates.

    > >
    > > Let me know when the good economy with low unemployment comes back

    around.
    > > I'm still looking for a non-temp job.
    > >
    > > Glenn D.
    > >

    >
    > You have a short memory if you think this economy is bad. Relative
    > to the past decade, maybe it's down. But relative to the past
    > century, doesn't get much better aside from utopia.


    Mike, the federal deficit projection is over $400 Billion. That's a B, not
    an M. Next year add another $80 Billion. In 2001 when President Bush took
    office, there was a budget surplus of $1.6 billion dollars. Do you still
    think the economy is in fine shape?
  6. -MIKE-

    -MIKE- Guest

    >>
    >> You have a short memory if you think this economy is bad. Relative
    >> to the past decade, maybe it's down. But relative to the past
    >> century, doesn't get much better aside from utopia.

    >
    > Mike, the federal deficit projection is over $400 Billion. That's a B,
    > not an M. Next year add another $80 Billion. In 2001 when President Bush
    > took office, there was a budget surplus of $1.6 billion dollars. Do you
    > still think the economy is in fine shape?
    >


    Don't hijack the thread.


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  7. NoSheeples

    NoSheeples Guest

    >> took office, there was a budget surplus of $1.6 billion dollars. Do you

    Bull shit, that was the projected surplus if the economy didn't go south in the
    last 2 quarters of the bubba admin. Stop listening to NPR.

    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty is
    a well armed lamb protesting the vote."
  8. On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 23:38:31 +0000, Da Parrot-chick wrote:

    >> You have a short memory if you think this economy is bad. Relative
    >> to the past decade, maybe it's down. But relative to the past
    >> century, doesn't get much better aside from utopia.

    >
    > Mike, the federal deficit projection is over $400 Billion. That's a B, not
    > an M. Next year add another $80 Billion. In 2001 when President Bush took
    > office, there was a budget surplus of $1.6 billion dollars. Do you still
    > think the economy is in fine shape?



    That's a little disingenuous, would you say? We didn't get out of debt
    during Clintons presidency. Yes, we had a "surplus" of 1.6 bil, but that
    didn't mean we were in the black by 1.6 bil. We were way, way in the red.
    I'm no W supporter (far from it), but you make it sound like the current
    administration had pushed us 401.6 bil onto the ugly side of the ledger.
    --

    peace,

    Rog

    http://www.slammingrooves.com



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  9. "-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
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    > >>
    > >> You have a short memory if you think this economy is bad. Relative
    > >> to the past decade, maybe it's down. But relative to the past
    > >> century, doesn't get much better aside from utopia.

    > >
    > > Mike, the federal deficit projection is over $400 Billion. That's a B,
    > > not an M. Next year add another $80 Billion. In 2001 when President

    Bush
    > > took office, there was a budget surplus of $1.6 billion dollars. Do you
    > > still think the economy is in fine shape?
    > >

    >
    > Don't hijack the thread.


    I was answering his assertion that the economy was in fine shape.
  10. "NoSheeples" <n2new@aol.comNsheep> wrote in message
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    > >> took office, there was a budget surplus of $1.6 billion dollars. Do

    you
    >
    > Bull shit, that was the projected surplus if the economy didn't go south

    in the
    > last 2 quarters of the bubba admin.


    Thanks for the clarification. You're right. To be more specific, the GAO
    and WMF predict with the present trend that this year's budget deficit will
    be in excess of $400 Billion and in excess of $480 billion for fiscal 2005.
    That's nearly half a trillion dollars. Going by that fact, I surmise that
    the economy isn't in good shape at all. And Good customer service can be
    taught and nurtured, especially in a depressed economy.

    You said it yourself, and ITA: all other things being equal (price,
    location, product availability), would you rather give your gig money to a
    store that treats you with dignity and respect or a store that penalizes you
    because the staff is too shy/incompetent/arrogant to even be nice to you?

    > Stop listening to NPR.


    Unlike Fox News, NPR actually does provide fair and balanced news.
    Unfortunately, that news is rarely good for an incompetent and deceitful
    government, regardless of the party. When was the last time Fox News had
    anything negative to say about the Bush Administration?
  11. John P.

    John P. Guest

    "Da Parrot-chick" <just@sk.me> wrote in a message

    > Mike, the federal deficit projection is over $400 Billion. That's a B,

    not
    > an M. Next year add another $80 Billion. In 2001 when President Bush

    took
    > office, there was a budget surplus of $1.6 billion dollars. Do you still
    > think the economy is in fine shape?


    Yes... because the deficit has nothing to do with the economy. The deficit
    indicates a couple of things, neither of which make much difference to the
    economy;
    1) The number of bonds the government has issued.
    2) The amount the government spends vs. how much it takes in.

    In regards to number one, if you just bought a bond that matures in 20
    years, would you like the government to buy it back in order to lower the
    deficit? Nope. You want to wait until it matures.

    In regards to number two, if the government takes in $100 billion and spends
    $200 billion on ships, how does that change how many drum kits Sam Ash
    sells? It probably doesn't at all... unless the Sam Ash happens to be near a
    ship builder... in which case SA might sell MORE kits because the employees
    at the shipyard are working and making money.

    There are a LOT of indicators as to how the economy is going, but the
    federal deficit isn't one of them. It gets played by the media and news over
    and over, but it really means very little in the big scheme of things.
  12. DPC- this is mighty misleading and I have to challenge. You are making it
    sound as if we were 1.6 on the upside before W came into office, which is
    not true at all. We have a had quite a down turn, but I am not certain it is
    all his doing.
    I voted for George W. I will not vote for him if he runs again , but it is
    not due to economic policies. I am real dissapointed at how close he brings
    his religous beliefs into play. I would like to see religion and politics
    separated more and I see him believing the opposite...SG
    "Da Parrot-chick" <just@sk.me> wrote in message
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    >
    > "-MIKE-" <mike@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote in message
    > news:IPqdnZ9g0snlVM6iXTWJgA@comcast.com...
    > > >> This is one unfortunate byproduct of a good economy and low
    > > >> unemployment rates.
    > > >
    > > > Let me know when the good economy with low unemployment comes back

    > around.
    > > > I'm still looking for a non-temp job.
    > > >
    > > > Glenn D.
    > > >

    > >
    > > You have a short memory if you think this economy is bad. Relative
    > > to the past decade, maybe it's down. But relative to the past
    > > century, doesn't get much better aside from utopia.

    >
    > Mike, the federal deficit projection is over $400 Billion. That's a B,

    not
    > an M. Next year add another $80 Billion. In 2001 when President Bush

    took
    > office, there was a budget surplus of $1.6 billion dollars. Do you still
    > think the economy is in fine shape?
    >
    >
  13. Howard Hess

    Howard Hess Guest

    On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 01:07:45 GMT, "Roger Sherman"
    <coolgrooves@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 23:38:31 +0000, Da Parrot-chick wrote:
    >
    >>> You have a short memory if you think this economy is bad. Relative
    >>> to the past decade, maybe it's down. But relative to the past
    >>> century, doesn't get much better aside from utopia.

    >>
    >> Mike, the federal deficit projection is over $400 Billion. That's a B, not
    >> an M. Next year add another $80 Billion. In 2001 when President Bush took
    >> office, there was a budget surplus of $1.6 billion dollars. Do you still
    >> think the economy is in fine shape?

    >
    >
    >That's a little disingenuous, would you say? We didn't get out of debt
    >during Clintons presidency. Yes, we had a "surplus" of 1.6 bil, but that
    >didn't mean we were in the black by 1.6 bil. We were way, way in the red.
    >I'm no W supporter (far from it), but you make it sound like the current
    >administration had pushed us 401.6 bil onto the ugly side of the ledger.


    Roger,

    The $400 billion and $480 billion numbers in Da Parrot-chick's post
    weren't the national debt, they were the single-year budget deficits.

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