Mail Order Gibson

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by Pete Kerezman, Aug 28, 2003.

  1. I wanted significant fingerboard time with a 24.75" scale guitar and
    I don't care much for the sound of humbucker guitars I've played, so I
    blew my mind and ordered a Les Paul Faded Double Cut last week because
    I refuse to subject myself to Corpus Christi Guitar Center ever again.
    It arrived today. First impressions:

    Significant care and Q.C. went into this axe. Other than the bridge
    pickup being so high as to interfere with the low E and and the A
    strings when played at the upper frets, setup is very good although I
    know darn well I'm gonna mess with it because that's just how I am.

    This guitar is lighter than my American Strat, 'bout the same or a
    smidge lighter than my kit-built Carvin. Acoustic sound is evenly
    balanced and louder than the strat or the Carvin, in fact it's very
    good indeed.

    The finish is slightly strange, in that it's kind of "not smooth,"
    even on the back of the neck, but I feel this can be easliy corrected.
    The "faded" finish looks brand spankin' new but just a little pale is
    all. Not like a "relic" or distressed new guitar.

    I stupidly forgot this morning to bring my Digitech RP50 to the
    shop, which would have allowed me to play somewhat electrified over
    headphones, but if the P90 electronics are fully functional I think
    it'll be a keeper. Actually, I'm pretty darn impressed so far, not so
    easy to do but I'm also not super picky.

    As to American Musical Supply, the service was "good" (seven days
    from order to arrival, ground shipping was free (even though I
    specified UPS over FedEx and you should too), but only the Gibson
    factory papers were in the box, no return policy, fragile sticker, and
    catalog as per the e-order form "shipped complete", nor was there a
    hard copy of the invoice.

    A real USA Gibson with gig bag included that absolutely doesn't suck
    for only six small, not bad.

    Texas Pete
  2. Dana Craft

    Dana Craft Guest

    "Pete Kerezman" <petekerez@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:nqlskvkmgespo2kunpm7io3h0s19k6m1di@4ax.com...
    I wanted significant fingerboard time with a 24.75" scale guitar and
    I don't care much for the sound of humbucker guitars I've played, so I
    blew my mind and ordered a Les Paul Faded Double Cut last week because
    I refuse to subject myself to Corpus Christi Guitar Center ever again.
    It arrived today. First impressions:

    Significant care and Q.C. went into this axe. Other than the bridge
    pickup being so high as to interfere with the low E and and the A
    strings when played at the upper frets, setup is very good although I
    know darn well I'm gonna mess with it because that's just how I am.

    This guitar is lighter than my American Strat, 'bout the same or a
    smidge lighter than my kit-built Carvin. Acoustic sound is evenly
    balanced and louder than the strat or the Carvin, in fact it's very
    good indeed.

    The finish is slightly strange, in that it's kind of "not smooth,"
    even on the back of the neck, but I feel this can be easliy corrected.
    The "faded" finish looks brand spankin' new but just a little pale is
    all. Not like a "relic" or distressed new guitar.

    I stupidly forgot this morning to bring my Digitech RP50 to the
    shop, which would have allowed me to play somewhat electrified over
    headphones, but if the P90 electronics are fully functional I think
    it'll be a keeper. Actually, I'm pretty darn impressed so far, not so
    easy to do but I'm also not super picky.

    As to American Musical Supply, the service was "good" (seven days
    from order to arrival, ground shipping was free (even though I
    specified UPS over FedEx and you should too), but only the Gibson
    factory papers were in the box, no return policy, fragile sticker, and
    catalog as per the e-order form "shipped complete", nor was there a
    hard copy of the invoice.

    A real USA Gibson with gig bag included that absolutely doesn't suck
    for only six small, not bad.

    Texas Pete


    I love mine (TV Yellow) but only after I had the fret edges filed back to
    the neck, they were way too rough. No other issues.

    Dana
  3. On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:52:36 -0400, "Dana Craft"
    <danacraft@charter.net> wrote:

    >I love mine (TV Yellow) but only after I had the fret edges filed back to
    >the neck, they were way too rough. No other issues.


    Frets not a problem on my Worn Cherry (is that possible?) sample.
    No QC issues at all, in fact. I even checked under the hood. Very
    tidy. I'm dyin' here cuz I can't plug it in until I get home tonite.

    Texas Pete
  4. > "Pete Kerezman" <petekerez@aol.com> wrote in message
    > news:nqlskvkmgespo2kunpm7io3h0s19k6m1di@4ax.com...
    > I wanted significant fingerboard time with a 24.75" scale guitar and
    > I don't care much for the sound of humbucker guitars I've played, so I
    > blew my mind and ordered a Les Paul Faded Double Cut


    Sort of confusing - more than one model of "LP" is in this series,
    some w/ HB, some with P-90.

    > Significant care and Q.C. went into this axe.


    I noticed a lot of variation (see below).

    > This guitar is lighter than my American Strat, 'bout the same or a
    > smidge lighter than my kit-built Carvin.


    Umm, isn't this sort of apple/banana?

    >Acoustic sound is evenly
    > balanced and louder than the strat or the Carvin, in fact it's very
    > good indeed.


    Methinks one may be getting carried away - the acoustic sound of a
    board with 2/pu screwed on...?

    > The finish is slightly strange, in that it's kind of "not smooth,"
    > even on the back of the neck, but I feel this can be easliy corrected.


    How, specifically?

    > The "faded" finish looks brand spankin' new but just a little pale is
    > all. Not like a "relic" or distressed new guitar.


    Interesting, as it is painted specifically to look like a "relic" (and
    all the same, of course).

    > A real USA Gibson with gig bag included that absolutely doesn't suck
    > for only six small, not bad.


    Depends on one's frame of reference. This is a very cheap axe to
    build and finish, but perhaps the marketing psychology relies upon
    "Gibsons" that "cost $2,500."

    I've looked at & played a number of this series in stores and would
    suggest anyone wanting one go pick it out in person. To me (personal
    taste matter), many of their neck feel like baseball bats. I've noted
    (factual observations) that most of their necks are "OK" but are just
    enough out-of-line in one way or another, and/or needing good fretwork
    to make them optimal players (which is not free to have done unless
    one is very skilled & equipped). I found their sound) all versions
    fine enough - but just like any other USA or foreign board with the
    same 2 p/u's & stop tailpiece. I have to admit they were a real
    emotional pull - especially for those of us who grew up playing the
    originals. But I felt they were realistically worth (maybe) $300.
    YMMV.
  5. On 30 Aug 2003 10:44:44 -0700, lbrty4us@aol.com wrote:

    >>Les Paul Faded Double Cut

    >
    >Sort of confusing - more than one model of "LP" is in this series,
    >some w/ HB, some with P-90.


    Not according to Gibson's web site.

    >Umm, isn't this sort of apple/banana?


    All solid body guitars.

    >>Acoustic sound is evenly
    >> balanced and louder than the strat or the Carvin, in fact it's very
    >> good indeed.

    >
    >Methinks one may be getting carried away - the acoustic sound of a
    >board with 2/pu screwed on...?


    Some folks think that the acoustic sound of a solid body can be
    important.

    >> The finish is slightly strange, in that it's kind of "not smooth,"
    >> even on the back of the neck, but I feel this can be easliy corrected.

    >
    >How, specifically?


    0000 steel wool + elbow grease.

    >> The "faded" finish looks brand spankin' new but just a little pale is
    >> all. Not like a "relic" or distressed new guitar.

    >
    >Interesting, as it is painted specifically to look like a "relic" (and
    >all the same, of course).
    >
    >> A real USA Gibson with gig bag included that absolutely doesn't suck
    >> for only six small, not bad.

    >
    >Depends on one's frame of reference. This is a very cheap axe to
    >build and finish, but perhaps the marketing psychology relies upon
    >"Gibsons" that "cost $2,500."
    >
    >I've looked at & played a number of this series in stores and would
    >suggest anyone wanting one go pick it out in person. To me (personal
    >taste matter), many of their neck feel like baseball bats. I've noted
    >(factual observations) that most of their necks are "OK" but are just
    >enough out-of-line in one way or another, and/or needing good fretwork
    >to make them optimal players (which is not free to have done unless
    >one is very skilled & equipped). I found their sound) all versions
    >fine enough - but just like any other USA or foreign board with the
    >same 2 p/u's & stop tailpiece. I have to admit they were a real
    >emotional pull - especially for those of us who grew up playing the
    >originals. But I felt they were realistically worth (maybe) $300.
    >YMMV.


    I'm very sorry that you have issues with Gibson. So do I, when it
    comes to their high end instruments. But I'm old, cranky, picky and
    tight with a dollar, and I'm keepin' this guitar because it's worth
    every penny of the six small it cost me. Maybe I got lucky,
    especially since I mail ordered it, but still... it's a keeper.

    Texas Pete
  6. JHT

    JHT Guest

    Pete Kerezman <petekerez@aol.com> wrote in article <skq1lv45i382128gsgas7oknl62ciq09a2@4ax.com>...
    > On 30 Aug 2003 10:44:44 -0700, lbrty4us@aol.com wrote:
    >
    > >>Les Paul Faded Double Cut


    > I'm very sorry that you have issues with Gibson. So do I, when it
    > comes to their high end instruments. But I'm old, cranky, picky and
    > tight with a dollar, and I'm keepin' this guitar because it's worth
    > every penny of the six small it cost me. Maybe I got lucky,
    > especially since I mail ordered it, but still... it's a keeper.
    >
    > Texas Pete


    Excellent guitar if you find one that can sing.

    Congrats on the new Gibson.

    --
    Jason
    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
  7. "JHT" <NobodyUpstairs@DELETEaol.com> wrote in message
    news:01c36f31$527b5180$a2c7580c@715162529worldnet.att.net...
    >
    >
    > Pete Kerezman <petekerez@aol.com> wrote in article

    <skq1lv45i382128gsgas7oknl62ciq09a2@4ax.com>...
    > > On 30 Aug 2003 10:44:44 -0700, lbrty4us@aol.com wrote:
    > >
    > > >>Les Paul Faded Double Cut

    >
    > > I'm very sorry that you have issues with Gibson. So do I, when it
    > > comes to their high end instruments. But I'm old, cranky, picky and
    > > tight with a dollar, and I'm keepin' this guitar because it's worth
    > > every penny of the six small it cost me. Maybe I got lucky,
    > > especially since I mail ordered it, but still... it's a keeper.
    > >
    > > Texas Pete

    >
    > Excellent guitar if you find one that can sing.
    >
    > Congrats on the new Gibson.
    >
    > --
    > Jason
    > http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
    >

    If he found one that could sing, it'd be a fuckin' harp. Moron.
  8. On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 03:11:36 GMT, "Robert Barker"
    <rwbarker@spambegonecox.net> wrote:

    >> > >>Les Paul Faded Double Cut

    >>
    >>
    >> Excellent guitar if you find one that can sing.
    >>
    >> Congrats on the new Gibson.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Jason
    >> http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
    >>

    >If he found one that could sing, it'd be a fuckin' harp. Moron.


    Anyways, I usually like to do the singing personally. While my
    guitar gently chuckles.

    Texas Pete
  9. "Pete Kerezman" <petekerez@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:7fe6lv8k741uurmrlvudf0218rnitb72cd@4ax.com...
    > On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 03:11:36 GMT, "Robert Barker"
    > <rwbarker@spambegonecox.net> wrote:
    >
    > >> > >>Les Paul Faded Double Cut
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Excellent guitar if you find one that can sing.
    > >>
    > >> Congrats on the new Gibson.
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Jason
    > >> http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
    > >>

    > >If he found one that could sing, it'd be a fuckin' harp. Moron.

    >
    > Anyways, I usually like to do the singing personally. While my
    > guitar gently chuckles.
    >
    > Texas Pete


    Heh. I hear ya...My 'reply' to Jason just shows the effects a few drinks
    with dinner can occasionally have on my tolerance level for netkooks. ;+)

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