Mic Stands - Starbird vrs. Atlas

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by Daniel Winter, Sep 1, 2003.

  1. I'm in the market for a high quality mic stand that will hold heavy
    expensive mics and suspend them over a drumkit without toppling over.
    Something heavy duty that won't strip threads, crack and fall apart easily.

    The only two contenders seem to be the:
    - Manley Starbird
    - Atlas SB-36W

    Has anyone had any experience with either that they can share?
    The Manley is considerably more expensive so does the cost justify the
    quality?

    I've already done a search and read previous posts but am still looking for
    more feedback before making a purchase as they are not accessible to
    compare. Fortunately I'm relying on your help to decide. Thank you.
  2. david

    david Guest

    In article <BB793B9C.21188%daniel@platinumstudios.com.au>, Daniel
    Winter <daniel@platinumstudios.com.au> wrote:

    > I'm in the market for a high quality mic stand that will hold heavy
    > expensive mics and suspend them over a drumkit without toppling over.
    > Something heavy duty that won't strip threads, crack and fall apart easily.
    >
    > The only two contenders seem to be the:
    > - Manley Starbird
    > - Atlas SB-36W
    >
    > Has anyone had any experience with either that they can share?
    > The Manley is considerably more expensive so does the cost justify the
    > quality?
    >
    > I've already done a search and read previous posts but am still looking for
    > more feedback before making a purchase as they are not accessible to
    > compare. Fortunately I'm relying on your help to decide. Thank you.




    Another possibility is to look for a used heavy duty AKG stand that was
    available in the 80's. Works great for effortlessly suspending a pair
    of 87's over a drumkit. Came with a serious counterweight and strong
    locking tripod base. Gets up plenty high for studio use as well.



    David Correia
    Celebration Sound
    Warren, Rhode Island

    CelebrationSound@aol.com
    www.CelebrationSound.com
  3. Fletcher

    Fletcher Guest

    Daniel Winter wrote:

    > I'm in the market for a high quality mic stand that will hold heavy
    > expensive mics and suspend them over a drumkit without toppling over.
    > Something heavy duty that won't strip threads, crack and fall apart easily.
    >
    > The only two contenders seem to be the:
    > - Manley Starbird
    > - Atlas SB-36W


    There is another contender about to come to market... "Latchlake Music". They
    sent me a sample and the engineering drawing for their stuff... and I have to
    say it's seriously impressive. The "clutches" are the best I've ever seen
    [very innovative, I believe they're either patented or patent applied for], the
    rest is very heavy duty, extremely well thought out... overall... a superior
    example of mic stand engineering.

    I have no idea what they're going to run nor where you can buy them... but do
    know they will be sharing space at the AES show with Great River Electronics
    and Josephson Microphones... so I'm sure the information will be available
    then. If you can hold off for like 6 weeks... I would strongly recommend that
    you do so.

    Best of luck with it.
    --
    Fletcher
    Mercenary Audio
    TEL: 508-543-0069
    FAX: 508-543-9670
    http://www.mercenary.com
    "this is not a problem"
  4. Ron Charles

    Ron Charles Guest

    We use K&M boom stands from Germany and they hold up very very well. Not bad
    for $25 and up!!!
    RON CHARLES

    "Daniel Winter" <daniel@platinumstudios.com.au> wrote in message
    news:BB793B9C.21188%daniel@platinumstudios.com.au...
    > I'm in the market for a high quality mic stand that will hold heavy
    > expensive mics and suspend them over a drumkit without toppling over.
    > Something heavy duty that won't strip threads, crack and fall apart

    easily.
    >
    > The only two contenders seem to be the:
    > - Manley Starbird
    > - Atlas SB-36W
    >
    > Has anyone had any experience with either that they can share?
    > The Manley is considerably more expensive so does the cost justify the
    > quality?
    >
    > I've already done a search and read previous posts but am still looking

    for
    > more feedback before making a purchase as they are not accessible to
    > compare. Fortunately I'm relying on your help to decide. Thank you.
    >
  5. Ron Charles

    Ron Charles Guest

    We use K&M boom stands from Germany and they hold up very very well. Not bad
    for $25 and up!!!
    RON CHARLES

    "Daniel Winter" <daniel@platinumstudios.com.au> wrote in message
    news:BB793B9C.21188%daniel@platinumstudios.com.au...
    > I'm in the market for a high quality mic stand that will hold heavy
    > expensive mics and suspend them over a drumkit without toppling over.
    > Something heavy duty that won't strip threads, crack and fall apart

    easily.
    >
    > The only two contenders seem to be the:
    > - Manley Starbird
    > - Atlas SB-36W
    >
    > Has anyone had any experience with either that they can share?
    > The Manley is considerably more expensive so does the cost justify the
    > quality?
    >
    > I've already done a search and read previous posts but am still looking

    for
    > more feedback before making a purchase as they are not accessible to
    > compare. Fortunately I'm relying on your help to decide. Thank you.
    >
  6. david <ihate@spamo.com> wrote:

    > Another possibility is to look for a used heavy duty AKG stand that was
    > available in the 80's. Works great for effortlessly suspending a pair
    > of 87's over a drumkit. Came with a serious counterweight and strong
    > locking tripod base.


    Good stands; I have a pair of those.

    --
    hank alrich * secret mountain
    audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
    "If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"
  7. >
    >Another possibility is to look for a used heavy duty AKG stand that was
    >available in the 80's. Works great for effortlessly suspending a pair
    >of 87's over a drumkit. Came with a serious counterweight and strong
    >locking tripod base. Gets up plenty high for studio use as well.
    >
    >
    >
    >David Correia
    >Celebration Sound
    >Warren, Rhode Island
    >
    >CelebrationSound@aol.com
    >www.CelebrationSound.com
    >


    I believe that they are still available.

    Built by K&M

    I have a pair of them and trust them for any of my microphones.

    Richard H. Kuschel
    "I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty
  8. Lou Gimenez

    Lou Gimenez Guest

    I have a bunch of K&M stands, I think the clutches suck. I bought a pair of
    "studio" stands made by onstage. They are certainly not as elegant as the
    manley and atlas stands, but they are amazingly strong, you could easily
    hang a couple of heavy mikes off them and they're 75 bucks each. Unless you
    need to get microphones preposterously high in the air, or you really need
    to have really cool looking stands, these suckers are fine
    --Lou Gimenez
    The Music Lab
    2" 24track w all the Goodies
    www.musiclabnyc.com



    > From: "Ron Charles" <portugal@3web.net>
    > Organization: Sprint Canada Inc.
    > Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
    > Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:30:25 -0400
    > Subject: Re: Mic Stands - Starbird vrs. Atlas
    >
    > We use K&M boom stands from Germany and they hold up very very well. Not bad
    > for $25 and up!!!
    > RON CHARLES
    >
    > "Daniel Winter" <daniel@platinumstudios.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:BB793B9C.21188%daniel@platinumstudios.com.au...
    >> I'm in the market for a high quality mic stand that will hold heavy
    >> expensive mics and suspend them over a drumkit without toppling over.
    >> Something heavy duty that won't strip threads, crack and fall apart

    > easily.
    >>
    >> The only two contenders seem to be the:
    >> - Manley Starbird
    >> - Atlas SB-36W
    >>
    >> Has anyone had any experience with either that they can share?
    >> The Manley is considerably more expensive so does the cost justify the
    >> quality?
    >>
    >> I've already done a search and read previous posts but am still looking

    > for
    >> more feedback before making a purchase as they are not accessible to
    >> compare. Fortunately I'm relying on your help to decide. Thank you.
    >>

    >
    >
  9. Ron Charles

    Ron Charles Guest

    Go with the K&M German made stands. The boom stands are just $24 each where
    I live and none of the 24 we own have ever been broken or stripeed, even
    with heavy tube mics and shockmounts on the tips.
    RON CHARLES
    "Daniel Winter" <daniel@platinumstudios.com.au> wrote in message
    news:BB793B9C.21188%daniel@platinumstudios.com.au...
    > I'm in the market for a high quality mic stand that will hold heavy
    > expensive mics and suspend them over a drumkit without toppling over.
    > Something heavy duty that won't strip threads, crack and fall apart

    easily.
    >
    > The only two contenders seem to be the:
    > - Manley Starbird
    > - Atlas SB-36W
    >
    > Has anyone had any experience with either that they can share?
    > The Manley is considerably more expensive so does the cost justify the
    > quality?
    >
    > I've already done a search and read previous posts but am still looking

    for
    > more feedback before making a purchase as they are not accessible to
    > compare. Fortunately I'm relying on your help to decide. Thank you.
    >
  10. Geoley

    Geoley Guest

    "Daniel Winter" <daniel@platinumstudios.com.au> wrote in message
    news:BB793B9C.21188%daniel@platinumstudios.com.au...
    > I'm in the market for a high quality mic stand that will hold heavy
    > expensive mics and suspend them over a drumkit without toppling over.
    > Something heavy duty that won't strip threads, crack and fall apart

    easily.
    >
    > The only two contenders seem to be the:
    > - Manley Starbird
    > - Atlas SB-36W
    >
    > Has anyone had any experience with either that they can share?
    > The Manley is considerably more expensive so does the cost justify the
    > quality?
    >
    > I've already done a search and read previous posts but am still looking

    for
    > more feedback before making a purchase as they are not accessible to
    > compare. Fortunately I'm relying on your help to decide. Thank you.
    >

    I just recently bought a very heavy duty and to my eyes well contructed mic
    stand made in China to support my Jecklin Disk. The brand name is "Ghost"
    and it has a wheeled tripod base and is really overkill for my needs. I paid
    $345.00 for it and it looks like it could hold a Mack truck. I got it from
    http://www.tbkmics.com Just my 2¢

    Geoley
  11. david

    david Guest

    In article <20030901105940.14153.00000293@mb-m18.aol.com>, Richard
    Kuschel <rickpv8945@aol.com> wrote:

    > >
    > >Another possibility is to look for a used heavy duty AKG stand that was
    > >available in the 80's. Works great for effortlessly suspending a pair
    > >of 87's over a drumkit. Came with a serious counterweight and strong
    > >locking tripod base. Gets up plenty high for studio use as well.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >David Correia
    > >Celebration Sound
    > >Warren, Rhode Island
    > >
    > >CelebrationSound@aol.com
    > >www.CelebrationSound.com
    > >

    >
    > I believe that they are still available.
    >
    > Built by K&M
    >
    > I have a pair of them and trust them for any of my microphones.
    >
    > Richard H. Kuschel
    > "I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty





    The heavy duty model they sell now is not the same (or as heavy duty)
    as the 80's version, unfortunately. Click "Proline" and then "Overhead"
    if you use the following link to see the current product:

    http://www.k-m.de/D/Katalog/mikrofon/5index.asp?spr=EN


    Since we're talking mic stands, everyone who doesn't should def know
    about Black Audio Devices.

    http://www.blackaudio.com/


    Very nice people and a great source when your stand needs a little tlc.
    They also sell a heavy duty stand but it is for getting mics up high,
    they do not recommend using a boom with their heavy duty stand.

    http://www.blackaudio.com/specord.htm





    David Correia
    Celebration Sound
    Warren, Rhode Island

    CelebrationSound@aol.com
    www.CelebrationSound.com
  12. Geoley

    Geoley Guest

    "Geoley" <geoley@covad.net> wrote in message
    news:bivs1b$q9u$1@sun-news.laserlink.net...
    >
    > "Daniel Winter" <daniel@platinumstudios.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:BB793B9C.21188%daniel@platinumstudios.com.au...
    > > I'm in the market for a high quality mic stand that will hold heavy
    > > expensive mics and suspend them over a drumkit without toppling over.
    > > Something heavy duty that won't strip threads, crack and fall apart

    > easily.
    > >
    > > The only two contenders seem to be the:
    > > - Manley Starbird
    > > - Atlas SB-36W
    > >
    > > Has anyone had any experience with either that they can share?
    > > The Manley is considerably more expensive so does the cost justify the
    > > quality?
    > >
    > > I've already done a search and read previous posts but am still looking

    > for
    > > more feedback before making a purchase as they are not accessible to
    > > compare. Fortunately I'm relying on your help to decide. Thank you.
    > >

    > I just recently bought a very heavy duty and to my eyes well contructed

    mic
    > stand made in China to support my Jecklin Disk. The brand name is "Ghost"
    > and it has a wheeled tripod base and is really overkill for my needs. I

    paid
    > $345.00 for it and it looks like it could hold a Mack truck. I got it from
    > http://www.tbkmics.com Just my 2¢
    >
    > Geoley
    >
    >

    Sorry
    I made a mistake on the price I paid for the Ghost Boom mic stand. It was
    $245.00 not $345.00 as I wrote in an earlier post. Also TBKmics does not
    show the stand on their new website, but they are the importer for the Ghost
    stands as that is where I got mine. There are 3 models to choose from. Stone
    Recording in San Francisco does show a picture and prices of the stands on
    their pro audio page. http://www.stonerecording.com.
    Geoley
  13. You can check at a local video and film equipment store for some really nice
    stands that typically have to handle more weight than a mic stand would
    normally have to withstand. I believe JnyVee and I were down at a local
    store where they had some pretty good heavy duty stands, with casters, and
    had the available fittings for using it as a mic stand, all for about $109
    US. I believe and Atlas or Starbird are far more expensive than that.

    --


    Roger W. Norman
    SirMusic Studio
    Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net.
    See how far $20 really goes.




    "Daniel Winter" <daniel@platinumstudios.com.au> wrote in message
    news:BB793B9C.21188%daniel@platinumstudios.com.au...
    > I'm in the market for a high quality mic stand that will hold heavy
    > expensive mics and suspend them over a drumkit without toppling over.
    > Something heavy duty that won't strip threads, crack and fall apart

    easily.
    >
    > The only two contenders seem to be the:
    > - Manley Starbird
    > - Atlas SB-36W
    >
    > Has anyone had any experience with either that they can share?
    > The Manley is considerably more expensive so does the cost justify the
    > quality?
    >
    > I've already done a search and read previous posts but am still looking

    for
    > more feedback before making a purchase as they are not accessible to
    > compare. Fortunately I'm relying on your help to decide. Thank you.
    >
  14. Scott Dorsey

    Scott Dorsey Guest

    Daniel Winter <daniel@platinumstudios.com.au> wrote:
    >I'm in the market for a high quality mic stand that will hold heavy
    >expensive mics and suspend them over a drumkit without toppling over.
    >Something heavy duty that won't strip threads, crack and fall apart easily.
    >
    >The only two contenders seem to be the:
    >- Manley Starbird
    >- Atlas SB-36W


    These are not the only games in town. Call Wes Dooley at AEA. He has a
    very wide line of stands out there.

    >Has anyone had any experience with either that they can share?


    They are both not bad, although the Atlas today is much flimsier than
    it was 25 years ago.

    >The Manley is considerably more expensive so does the cost justify the
    >quality?


    Yes, the Starbird is amazing. But it is serious overkill if you are just
    working with a drumkit. If you need to boom an orchestra, though, the
    Starbird is the way to go.

    >I've already done a search and read previous posts but am still looking for
    >more feedback before making a purchase as they are not accessible to
    >compare. Fortunately I'm relying on your help to decide. Thank you.


    Call Wes Dooley and ask what he's got. He'll probably be willing to loan
    you stuff for testing if you'll pay freight.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
  15. Scott Dorsey

    Scott Dorsey Guest

    LeBaron & Alrich <walkinay@thegrid.net> wrote:
    >david <ihate@spamo.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Another possibility is to look for a used heavy duty AKG stand that was
    >> available in the 80's. Works great for effortlessly suspending a pair
    >> of 87's over a drumkit. Came with a serious counterweight and strong
    >> locking tripod base.

    >
    >Good stands; I have a pair of those.


    I have one somewhere. I think they were OEMed by K&M for AKG.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
  16. Scott Dorsey

    Scott Dorsey Guest

    Lou Gimenez <musiclab@att.net> wrote:
    >I have a bunch of K&M stands, I think the clutches suck.


    K&M makes a bunch of different models. The clutches on the cheap ones
    are pretty awful, but on the higher end ones they aren't bad at all.
    --scott

    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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