modifying cymbals

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by Andy C, Aug 30, 2003.

  1. Andy C

    Andy C Guest

    I've got some cheap pearl cymbals (hi-hat, crash, ride) that I don't have a
    lot of use for any more... they kind of sound like ass. Is there anything
    cool and easy I can do as an experiment to make them sound better? I know
    people drill rivets, but I'm looking for other suggestions as well. Can I
    hammer them and change the pitch or anything like that?

    thanks,
    Andy
  2. On 2003-08-30, Andy C <ayc8NOSPAM@cornell.edu> wrote:
    > I've got some cheap pearl cymbals (hi-hat, crash, ride) that I don't have a
    > lot of use for any more... they kind of sound like ass. Is there anything
    > cool and easy I can do as an experiment to make them sound better? I know
    > people drill rivets, but I'm looking for other suggestions as well. Can I
    > hammer them and change the pitch or anything like that?


    Google for a thread I started on rec.audio.pro last summer titled
    "Cymbal hacks/modifications". Lots of cool ideas there.

    I can report that, since that thread, I've attempted to recast the
    cymbal in question once, but the bonfire we used was not hot enough to
    seriously heat that sucker up. Interesting things happened, but I want
    to go again, and try it a second time.


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  3. Andy C <ayc8NOSPAM@cornell.edu> wrote:
    > I've got some cheap pearl cymbals (hi-hat, crash, ride) that I don't have a
    > lot of use for any more... they kind of sound like ass. Is there anything
    > cool and easy I can do as an experiment to make them sound better? I know
    > people drill rivets, but I'm looking for other suggestions as well. Can I
    > hammer them and change the pitch or anything like that?


    Give it a try! Hammering might be interesting. OF course it takes
    a skilled hammerer to really make one sound great, but still
    might be an interesting experiment.

    I had an old cymbal I took a Bernzomatic torch to. (sort of
    looked like Giraffe when I was done). REALLY changed the
    sound!!! Made it all loud and harsh sounding. Very nasty.
    But I used it for a while as a special effect and kinda
    grew to like it! I figured, hey, a china is all loud and
    nasty sounding too. Eventually the the cymbal cracked and
    died.

    Benj
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  4. creux

    creux Guest

    you might also want to try them as 'auxiliary' efx cymbals on top of each
    other
    either resting loosely or with variable tightenings. my first experiment
    with this sort
    of thing was when my paiste 2000 crash died. it had a 3" crack from the edge
    towards the hole. i put a 16" invader (yup the name says it all...) china on
    top of it loosely and this provided me with a fast decaying, very explosive
    efx cymbal combination - ive used a similar combination in my setup ever
    since.
  5. Paul

    Paul Guest

    "creux" <creux@fuckyouifyoumailmethatshit.suomi24.fi> wrote in message
    news:7L54b.227$tF5.46@read3.inet.fi...
    > you might also want to try them as 'auxiliary' efx cymbals on top of each
    > other
    > either resting loosely or with variable tightenings. my first experiment
    > with this sort
    > of thing was when my paiste 2000 crash died. it had a 3" crack from the

    edge
    > towards the hole. i put a 16" invader (yup the name says it all...) china

    on
    > top of it loosely and this provided me with a fast decaying, very

    explosive
    > efx cymbal combination - ive used a similar combination in my setup ever
    > since.


    I have a split and shrinking ZBT+ 16" crash with a 10" Wuhan China on top-
    sounds like the china I've always wanted now (ish) and at fraction of the
    price!

    Talk about cheap trash :)

    Paul
  6. TJ Hertz

    TJ Hertz Guest

    Andy C wrote:
    > I've got some cheap pearl cymbals (hi-hat, crash, ride) that I don't
    > have a lot of use for any more... they kind of sound like ass. Is
    > there anything cool and easy I can do as an experiment to make them
    > sound better? I know people drill rivets, but I'm looking for other
    > suggestions as well. Can I hammer them and change the pitch or
    > anything like that?
    >
    > thanks,
    > Andy


    www.cymbalholic.com

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    http://www.whatyourenot.com

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