Must See Blues?

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by NJD, Aug 30, 2003.

  1. Richard

    Richard Guest

    NobodyUpstairs@DELETEaol.com wrote...

    > > I'll sell ya my "el Macombo" DVD for $5 + postage. I've rarely been
    > > so bored in my life.

    >
    > I'll take it, Richard, for $5 if you will sell it to me.


    It's yours. Email me at hotmail. No posting my address, OK? ;)

    --
    Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
  2. Richard

    Richard Guest

    NobodyUpstairs@DELETEaol.com wrote...

    > Pete Kerezman <petekerez@aol.com> wrote
    > > Richard <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > >In my experience, there are a few young blues players in NYC that are
    > > >really superb. Very inventive (not derived of BB, SRV, etc.), very
    > > >musical, and very bluesy. They aren't recorded yet, so far as I
    > > >know, but IMO they're much more interesting than Buddy Guy, Gatemouth
    > > >Brown, or anybody like that.

    > >
    > > Well, the deal is, you've GOT to connect to the past in order to
    > > know HOW to connect to the future. I'm sorry about your predjudice
    > > (not a bit racial, simply against the past) but I also know that
    > > you're smart enough to wise up.
    > >
    > > Texas Pete

    >
    > Why would you say that?


    Aw, he's just having a laugh at my expense. He knows I'm a reTaRd.

    Of course, I've heard Gatemouth and seen him on TeeVee. Nothing
    against him at all, and I know my place. Gatemouth's a musical
    legend and I'm musical squat.

    As for knowing the past, I was thinking earlier today about how much
    repertoire I've lost. I remember sitting down with some friends one
    night, maybe 30 years ago, and playing song after song after song for
    hours on end. I don't think we repeated ourselves once. Stones, 10
    Years After, Hendrix, Cream, Beatles, Johnny Winter, Jethro Tull...

    Man, where did it all go? I never thought I'd miss that stuff, but
    it seems I really do.

    --
    Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
  3. JMK

    JMK Guest

    Les Cargill <lcargill@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
    news:3F5157F4.AD699675@worldnet.att.net:

    > Richard wrote:
    >> ...and I was swearing if
    >> he played one more chorus of "Devil with the Blue Dress" as he ran
    >> from stage left to stage right to stage left to stage right to stage
    >> left that my head was going to explode. I hated it.
    >>

    >
    > My first contact with Springsteen was "Darkness On The Edge of Town",
    > which I like about better'n anything since.
    >


    "Darkness" is his best record, and it would be unforgettable if all
    it contained were the title track, "Adam Raised a Cain" and
    "Candy's Room."


    >>
    >> I was slow to warm up to Mark.

    >
    > Man, I wasn't. That was the shizzle. Still is. If he tours again
    > go. I grew up on all those country pickers, and it was great
    > hearing that vocabulary in that context.


    My favorite Knopfler record is the soundtrack to Local Hero.
    Nice movie, too.

    >
    >> I thought it was great that he clung
    >> to that great clean Strat sound when everyone else was playing
    >> through a string of effects, but I hated Sultans of Swing with a
    >> passion.

    >
    > Wans't even the best song off the first album. "Waterline" is
    > a fine tune.


    "Waterline", "In The Gallery", "Lions" - some great tunes on that
    first one.

    JMK
  4. JHT

    JHT Guest

    Richard <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote in article <MPG.19bb414215bc604798981f@news.verizon.net>...
    > NobodyUpstairs@DELETEaol.com wrote...
    >
    > > > I'll sell ya my "el Macombo" DVD for $5 + postage. I've rarely been
    > > > so bored in my life.

    > >
    > > I'll take it, Richard, for $5 if you will sell it to me.

    >
    > It's yours. Email me at hotmail. No posting my address, OK? ;)


    Excellent...thanks man.

    I'll email in am.

    Night.

    --
    Jason
    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
  5. Dan Stanley

    Dan Stanley Guest

    "Richard" <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.19bb1c2e3a73dcc698981a@news.verizon.net...
    > vze2bjcf@verizon.net wrote...
    > >
    > > "Richard" <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com wrote...
    > > > > jeffgross@charter.net says...
    > > > > > Atlas wrote:
    > > > > > > You misspelled "Stevie Ray Vaughan".
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > HTH.
    > > > > > Who for some reason, isn't touring anymore. ;)
    > > > >
    > > > > And I sure do regret never having caught his act live.
    > > >
    > > > I'll sell ya my "el Macombo" DVD for $5 + postage. I've rarely been
    > > > so bored in my life.

    > >
    > > Meee-OWWW!
    > > I can see being bored watching it the THIRD time, but seeing it the

    FIRST
    > > time...YOW!
    > > Good rock'n'roll'n'blooze show, that.

    >
    > Great player, great sound, executed flawlessly, sorry he's gone. No
    > surprises, as Don said. That sums it up perfectly.
    >
    > I was in the DC area in the 70s, and heard local boys Jim Thackery,
    > Neils Loftgren, Punky Meadows, Greg Wright, and even forever-to-be-
    > unknowns like Terry Gleason and a crew of other fellas do that rock
    > blues thing as well as it gets done. Punky was more of a straight
    > rock player, but the guy could play the crap out of a guitar.


    What was it about DC area guitar players? Something in the water? I know
    there are great unknown players everywhere, but in DC they seem to be as
    densely packed as sardines.

    > Plus,
    > I was a Johnny Winter freak in the early 70s...anyway, I'd heard a
    > lot of that stuff already.


    Yeah, but Stevie added his own twist. I think on the whole I prefer Winter,
    just because I'm a geezer and heard him first.

    > Greg Wright was amazing, too. Did some
    > touring with Gregg Allman, and a stint with Michael Jackson before
    > J Batten took that gig.
    >
    > > Want me to lend you my Grateful Dead "View from the Vault" DVDs? Those

    ought
    > > to really send you over the edge!

    >
    > I bore too easily. For example, after years of friends raving about
    > Bruce Springsteen, I finally relented and went with them to a show in
    > the early 80s. Great seats, the entire audience of 20,000 was on
    > their feet singing along with all the words...and I was swearing if
    > he played one more chorus of "Devil with the Blue Dress" as he ran
    > from stage left to stage right to stage left to stage right to stage
    > left that my head was going to explode. I hated it.


    I can sympathize. When anything becomes "schtick", and that aspect of
    Springsteen is definitely schtick, I get bored, too. I do understand that
    for others, though, it IS something exciting. Strokes, folks, different.

    I like the GD DVDs, but I can't just sit on the couch and watch 'em. I do
    like putting them on and having a little visual thing going on along with
    the music as I go about my bidness.

    > > Stevie, when I first heard him on the radio, was as much a breath of

    fresh
    > > are as Eddie Van Halen and Mark Knopfler were, when I first heard them.

    >
    > I was slow to warm up to Mark. I thought it was great that he clung
    > to that great clean Strat sound when everyone else was playing
    > through a string of effects, but I hated Sultans of Swing with a
    > passion. I still do.


    I loved it, then hated it because I heard it too much, and it became one of
    those songs EVERYONE played at guitar stores. Many years have passed now, of
    course, and I love it again. Those first two Dire Straits records were
    fabulous, and the others are fine, too.

    > I didn't get past that until "Brothers in
    > Arms" came out, which I love and think is a fantastic record.


    It is. That was one of my oldest son's favorites when he was little. That,
    and the Talking Head's "Little Creatures". Weirdest thing, he was less than
    five, but would ask for those records all the time. Them, and "The Animal
    Alphabet" tape. And Taj Mahal's "Shake Sugaree". There's a "kid's music"
    record all y'all should get, if you have kids.

    > Definitely not trying to offend SRV, but I gotta say it like it was.
    > I couldn't wait for that DVD to end, and I've only watched it once.


    That's perfectly ok.

    Dan
  6. Richard

    Richard Guest

    NobodyUpstairs@DELETEaol.com wrote...
    >
    > I'll email in am.


    I'll check this evening. Taking son to US Open this morning.

    --
    Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
  7. NJD

    NJD Guest

    In article <01c36f31$ec30af00$a2c7580c@715162529worldnet.att.net>,
    NobodyUpstairs@DELETEaol.com says...
    > Then BB King came on, who we went to see to begin with, and it was ..well...kind of a let down after the fire of KWS playing.


    You've got to be careful about whom you let open up for you if and when
    you get to the top. It needs to be a compatible act, but you don't want
    to be a let down.

    --
    Nick
    http://www.cultv.com Fine arts & more
    http://www.ironia.net My last band
  8. NJD

    NJD Guest

    In article <bir4be$cd0ku$1@ID-70176.news.uni-berlin.de>, me@privacy.net
    says...
    > Well, if you saw him with Beck, like I did... You would have left
    > unimpressed like I did. Beck just made SRV look like a "whatever"...
    > Probably would have appreciated SRV more if Beck would have stayed home that
    > night. ;-)


    Was he drinkin' at the time?

    In any case, I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to trade licks with
    Beck either. I must say, though, that I thought Jen Batten complimented
    Beck very well on their tour. Boy, did I enjoy that show.

    --
    Nick
    http://www.cultv.com Fine arts & more
    http://www.ironia.net My last band
  9. NJD

    NJD Guest

    In article <MPG.19baf2924d77d497989816@news.verizon.net>, rh310
    @hotmail.com says...
    > Dave Littigher (spelled
    > phonetically here; I know it's spelled differently but I don't
    > remember how) or Howard Poole.
    >


    Thanks I'll put them on my list and keep an eye out.

    If you like Jazz, I highly recommend Chuck Feravola. He's also a killer
    rock and blues player, but jazz is his main thing. He teaches music
    theory at NYU, but he also gigs around the area. He's incredible and
    one of the nicest guys I've ever met.

    --
    Nick
    http://www.cultv.com Fine arts & more
    http://www.ironia.net My last band
  10. NJD

    NJD Guest

    In article <1062286256.970336@newshost03.voicenet.com>,
    gtrdonevans@aol.com says...
    > I used to think it was me. :) I saw him live through an involved chain
    > of events, before ever I heard him recorded, and because I was pretty
    > involved with other stuff at the time, I didn't really know who he was ...
    > only that I was supposed to be impressed. I wasn't. I thought he
    > excecuted stuff well, and all, but I felt no passion at all, and never was
    > surprised by anything he did. I had heard a few other of the younger Texas
    > blues players, and I just didn't think he stood out of the crowd as much as
    > I expected. Actually, I like his records better. IMO, etc.


    Was he drunk? With that guy especially, it matters IMHO.

    --
    Nick
    http://www.cultv.com Fine arts & more
    http://www.ironia.net My last band
  11. NJD

    NJD Guest

    In article <MPG.19bb1c2e3a73dcc698981a@news.verizon.net>, rh310
    @hotmail.com says...
    > I was slow to warm up to Mark. I thought it was great that he clung
    > to that great clean Strat sound when everyone else was playing
    > through a string of effects, but I hated Sultans of Swing with a
    > passion. I still do. I didn't get past that until "Brothers in
    > Arms" came out, which I love and think is a fantastic record.


    Wow, I loved that song and the solo on it.

    --
    Nick
    http://www.cultv.com Fine arts & more
    http://www.ironia.net My last band
  12. Don Evans

    Don Evans Guest

    "NJD" <njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.19bbf106327bf04c989b56@news.optonline.net...
    > In article <1062286256.970336@newshost03.voicenet.com>,
    > gtrdonevans@aol.com says...
    > > I used to think it was me. :) I saw him live through an involved

    chain
    > > of events, before ever I heard him recorded, and because I was pretty
    > > involved with other stuff at the time, I didn't really know who he was

    ....
    > > only that I was supposed to be impressed. I wasn't. I thought he
    > > excecuted stuff well, and all, but I felt no passion at all, and never

    was
    > > surprised by anything he did. I had heard a few other of the younger

    Texas
    > > blues players, and I just didn't think he stood out of the crowd as much

    as
    > > I expected. Actually, I like his records better. IMO, etc.

    >
    > Was he drunk? With that guy especially, it matters IMHO.
    >


    No, actually, he was on the wagon .. no drugs, no alcohol. He made it a
    point to talk about it briefly during the show. It wasn't that he didn't
    play well, he just didn't get me going. Like I said, I thought it must be
    me.

    Don
  13. Jeff Gross

    Jeff Gross Guest

    NJD wrote:

    > You've got to be careful about whom you let open up for you if and
    > when you get to the top. It needs to be a compatible act, but you
    > don't want to be a let down.


    No kidding. I remember going to a Robin Trower concert around 1978 and
    the opening act was Cheap Trick. This was right when Live @ Budokhan
    came out and the show was in Milwaukee. Milwaukee was and still is nuts
    for Trower, but Cheap Trick was semi-local (from Illinois) and had
    played the area's clubs for years and drew a huge following to the show.
    I remember going to see Cheap Trick at a local bowling alley because it
    was $1 pitcher night and partying with them at a friend's house after
    the gig. This was also about the same time Trower was starting to let
    Dewar do more song writing and he no longer played bass, just fronted
    the band and looked like a fat Tom Jones trying to impress the ladies in
    a cheezy loung-ey tuxedo.

    Cheap Trick put on a great show and tore the place up driving the crowd
    to a near frenzy.
    Trower came out and played a very mellow/stoner show and half the arena
    was empty by the 4th song.
    Very bad match.

    Cheers,
    - Jeff G
    http://dirty-ernie.com
  14. JHT

    JHT Guest

  15. Road Warrior

    Road Warrior Guest

    "NJD" <njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.19bbefe0c780cdf9989b54@news.optonline.net...
    > In article <bir4be$cd0ku$1@ID-70176.news.uni-berlin.de>, me@privacy.net
    > says...
    > > Well, if you saw him with Beck, like I did... You would have left
    > > unimpressed like I did. Beck just made SRV look like a "whatever"...
    > > Probably would have appreciated SRV more if Beck would have stayed home

    that
    > > night. ;-)


    > Was he drinkin' at the time?


    I'm not sure... I think it was '88??? Beck was touring with Terry Bozzio and
    Tony Hymas from "Guitar Shop"... That's also who he's touring with now! I
    don't know when SRV supposedly started to get clean relative to that
    particular tour.

    > In any case, I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to trade licks with
    > Beck either. I must say, though, that I thought Jen Batten complimented
    > Beck very well on their tour. Boy, did I enjoy that show.


    Oh yeah, Jennifer played all the hard stuff! ;-) She really was/is a
    fantastic support player.

    Jeff
  16. Richard

    Richard Guest

    njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com wrote...

    > If you like Jazz, I highly recommend Chuck Feravola. He's also a killer
    > rock and blues player, but jazz is his main thing. He teaches music
    > theory at NYU, but he also gigs around the area. He's incredible and
    > one of the nicest guys I've ever met.


    He's undoubtedly a leftist, then. ;)

    --
    Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
  17. Richard

    Richard Guest

    njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com wrote...
    > rh310@hotmail.com says...
    > > I was slow to warm up to Mark. I thought it was great that he clung
    > > to that great clean Strat sound when everyone else was playing
    > > through a string of effects, but I hated Sultans of Swing with a
    > > passion. I still do. I didn't get past that until "Brothers in
    > > Arms" came out, which I love and think is a fantastic record.

    >
    > Wow, I loved that song and the solo on it.


    For me, it was one of those songs (and solos) you know before you
    even pick the guitar up, just from hearing it.

    Really good sound, though, and again a stark contrast to the sound
    most everybody else was getting at the time.

    He's more than made up for it with me since then.

    --
    Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
  18. NJD

    NJD Guest

    In article <bitb0c$cn9dn$1@ID-70176.news.uni-berlin.de>, me@privacy.net
    says...
    > Oh yeah, Jennifer played all the hard stuff! ;-) She really was/is a
    > fantastic support player.


    I agree and there was good chemistry between them I thought. The whole
    band kicked that night.

    --
    Nick
    http://www.cultv.com Fine arts & more
    http://www.ironia.net My last band
  19. NJD

    NJD Guest

    In article <MPG.19bc0ece8107483f989822@news.verizon.net>, rh310
    @hotmail.com says...
    > He's undoubtedly a leftist, then. ;)


    Maybe. I wouldn't know.

    Talking about politics with him would be like discussing interior
    decorating with Stephen Hawking. Probably not the best choice of topics
    given the depth of expertise available in another area.

    If I could choose to acquire the chops of any guitarist that I've ever
    heard, living or dead, I'd pick Chuck. That guy plays like no one else.
    He really should be famous.

    --
    Nick
    http://www.cultv.com Fine arts & more
    http://www.ironia.net My last band
  20. J

    J Guest

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:43:33 GMT, Richard wrote:

    >
    > More seriously, see if you can hear Dave Littigher (spelled
    > phonetically here; I know it's spelled differently but I don't
    > remember how) or Howard Poole. The little blues joints in NYC that
    > I've seen good people in come and go, although the Rodeo Bar is
    > supposed to be a good place to catch good local blues talent now.
    >
    > Good luck.



    If anyone is in or near Rhode Island, I highly recommend checking out Vic
    Foley.
    http://www.vicfoley.com

    schedule:
    http://www.providencephoenix.com/listings/music/bands_in_town/VIC_FOLEY.asp

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