No MIDI IN signal at all

Discussion in 'comp.music.midi' started by Marcel Stiefelhagen, Aug 11, 2003.

  1. Now here's a real toothbreaker for professional midi guys (which I thought I
    was too)
    The problem is very simple: I am not receiving any midi in signal on my
    computer.

    First I used the on-board (VIA AC97) gameport which should be capable of
    sending and receiving midi data.
    Midi OUT = no problem (I attached a Roland keyboard that starts playing the
    midifile I started on my PC)
    but no midi IN signal
    (changed the cable, didn't work)

    Second I installed a "real" soundcard (Terractec XLerate) and tried to use
    the gameport of that.
    Same story: Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal

    At last I used my Roland SC7 (that should be capable of sending midi via the
    MIDI-in connection and the serial driver to the computer) but same story:
    Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal

    I'm trying to understand what is happening but I gave up. My conclusion is
    that this problem has nothing to do with the midi interface itself because
    of the correctly working midi OUT signals in all the setups I tried.

    I hope that a "real" professional recognises this situation and can help me
    out....

    Thanks in advance
    Marcel Stiefelhagen
    The Netherlands
  2. Old Nick

    Old Nick Guest

    On 11 Aug 2003 14:55:58 -0700, mailthuis@lycos.nl (Marcel
    Stiefelhagen) wrote something
    .......and in reply I say!:

    OK. IT's not the ol reverse the MIDI leads trap <G>

    Firstly, how are you "looking" for the MIDI signal? What software etc?
    Is it set up to see the incoming MIDI port? Can Windows see the MIDI
    port? (Soundcard name) MIDI Out (adress)

    Do you have any intermediate software dealing with the MIDI? MIDI Ox.
    Hubi's loopback? MIDI

    Have you completely disabled the onboard soundcard in the BIOS?

    You could be having resource clashes, although having both cards
    behave the same is weird.

    You had the same trouble with both ports. Same cable both times? It
    could be the cable.

    I am assuming the Rolands are two different external synths. Can they
    send and receive with each other OK?

    >Now here's a real toothbreaker for professional midi guys (which I thought I
    >was too)
    >The problem is very simple: I am not receiving any midi in signal on my
    >computer.
    >
    >First I used the on-board (VIA AC97) gameport which should be capable of
    >sending and receiving midi data.
    >Midi OUT = no problem (I attached a Roland keyboard that starts playing the
    >midifile I started on my PC)
    >but no midi IN signal
    >(changed the cable, didn't work)
    >
    >Second I installed a "real" soundcard (Terractec XLerate) and tried to use
    >the gameport of that.
    >Same story: Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    >
    >At last I used my Roland SC7 (that should be capable of sending midi via the
    >MIDI-in connection and the serial driver to the computer) but same story:
    >Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    >
    >I'm trying to understand what is happening but I gave up. My conclusion is
    >that this problem has nothing to do with the midi interface itself because
    >of the correctly working midi OUT signals in all the setups I tried.
    >
    >I hope that a "real" professional recognises this situation and can help me
    >out....
    >
    >Thanks in advance
    >Marcel Stiefelhagen
    >The Netherlands


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  3. OK I understand I need to give some more information:

    See my answers below


    > OK. IT's not the ol reverse the MIDI leads trap <G>
    >
    > Firstly, how are you "looking" for the MIDI signal? What software etc?


    I check the signal in Cubase VST, i see the green OUT led but the RED
    IN led stays off. Second I tried Quartz audio master and tried to
    record something. Third I tried a MIDI monitor. No result in all 3
    setups
    Of course I first set the MIDI IN device to the Sound card's midi
    driver, EG Roland Serial Input.


    > Is it set up to see the incoming MIDI port?

    Yes it is

    Can Windows see the MIDI
    > port? (Soundcard name) MIDI Out (adress)


    The serial driver is seen as hardware, but no settings are available,
    so no IRQ or I/O address can be given

    In case of the gameport midi-drivers there are IRQ's and I/O addreses,
    but I tried different combinations without success.

    >
    > Do you have any intermediate software dealing with the MIDI? MIDI Ox.
    > Hubi's loopback? MIDI


    No I have not, unless the MIDI monitor belongs to intermediate
    software...
    >
    > Have you completely disabled the onboard soundcard in the BIOS?


    Yes I have
    >
    > You could be having resource clashes, although having both cards
    > behave the same is weird.
    >
    > You had the same trouble with both ports. Same cable both times? It
    > could be the cable.


    No I don't think so, I connected the cable from the keyboard to the
    SC7 sound module and the "red receiving data led" on the sound module
    indicates data.
    >
    > I am assuming the Rolands are two different external synths. Can they
    > send and receive with each other OK?


    Yes as explained above..

    Hope you have enough info...

    Thanks,
    Marcel
    >
    > >Now here's a real toothbreaker for professional midi guys (which I thought I
    > >was too)
    > >The problem is very simple: I am not receiving any midi in signal on my
    > >computer.
    > >
    > >First I used the on-board (VIA AC97) gameport which should be capable of
    > >sending and receiving midi data.
    > >Midi OUT = no problem (I attached a Roland keyboard that starts playing the
    > >midifile I started on my PC)
    > >but no midi IN signal
    > >(changed the cable, didn't work)
    > >
    > >Second I installed a "real" soundcard (Terractec XLerate) and tried to use
    > >the gameport of that.
    > >Same story: Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    > >
    > >At last I used my Roland SC7 (that should be capable of sending midi via the
    > >MIDI-in connection and the serial driver to the computer) but same story:
    > >Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    > >
    > >I'm trying to understand what is happening but I gave up. My conclusion is
    > >that this problem has nothing to do with the midi interface itself because
    > >of the correctly working midi OUT signals in all the setups I tried.
    > >
    > >I hope that a "real" professional recognises this situation and can help me
    > >out....
    > >
    > >Thanks in advance
    > >Marcel Stiefelhagen
    > >The Netherlands

    >
    > ******************************************************************************************
    > I could never _see_ myself as anything!
    >
    > Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music
    > Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email
    > !!
    > <")
    > _/ )
    > ( )
    > _//- \__/
  4. JB Seattle

    JB Seattle Guest

    Why not bypass the Inpurt problem with a USB interface--XP and AC97 are
    brainbusters for midi because of the way resources are handled by different
    configs on differing machines. USB will simply eliminate the problem.
    JB
    "Marcel Stiefelhagen" <mailthuis@lycos.nl> wrote in message
    news:d4c297fe.0308120247.7949418@posting.google.com...
    > OK I understand I need to give some more information:
    >
    > See my answers below
    >
    >
    > > OK. IT's not the ol reverse the MIDI leads trap <G>
    > >
    > > Firstly, how are you "looking" for the MIDI signal? What software etc?

    >
    > I check the signal in Cubase VST, i see the green OUT led but the RED
    > IN led stays off. Second I tried Quartz audio master and tried to
    > record something. Third I tried a MIDI monitor. No result in all 3
    > setups
    > Of course I first set the MIDI IN device to the Sound card's midi
    > driver, EG Roland Serial Input.
    >
    >
    > > Is it set up to see the incoming MIDI port?

    > Yes it is
    >
    > Can Windows see the MIDI
    > > port? (Soundcard name) MIDI Out (adress)

    >
    > The serial driver is seen as hardware, but no settings are available,
    > so no IRQ or I/O address can be given
    >
    > In case of the gameport midi-drivers there are IRQ's and I/O addreses,
    > but I tried different combinations without success.
    >
    > >
    > > Do you have any intermediate software dealing with the MIDI? MIDI Ox.
    > > Hubi's loopback? MIDI

    >
    > No I have not, unless the MIDI monitor belongs to intermediate
    > software...
    > >
    > > Have you completely disabled the onboard soundcard in the BIOS?

    >
    > Yes I have
    > >
    > > You could be having resource clashes, although having both cards
    > > behave the same is weird.
    > >
    > > You had the same trouble with both ports. Same cable both times? It
    > > could be the cable.

    >
    > No I don't think so, I connected the cable from the keyboard to the
    > SC7 sound module and the "red receiving data led" on the sound module
    > indicates data.
    > >
    > > I am assuming the Rolands are two different external synths. Can they
    > > send and receive with each other OK?

    >
    > Yes as explained above..
    >
    > Hope you have enough info...
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Marcel
    > >
    > > >Now here's a real toothbreaker for professional midi guys (which I

    thought I
    > > >was too)
    > > >The problem is very simple: I am not receiving any midi in signal on my
    > > >computer.
    > > >
    > > >First I used the on-board (VIA AC97) gameport which should be capable

    of
    > > >sending and receiving midi data.
    > > >Midi OUT = no problem (I attached a Roland keyboard that starts

    playing the
    > > >midifile I started on my PC)
    > > >but no midi IN signal
    > > >(changed the cable, didn't work)
    > > >
    > > >Second I installed a "real" soundcard (Terractec XLerate) and tried to

    use
    > > >the gameport of that.
    > > >Same story: Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    > > >
    > > >At last I used my Roland SC7 (that should be capable of sending midi

    via the
    > > >MIDI-in connection and the serial driver to the computer) but same

    story:
    > > >Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    > > >
    > > >I'm trying to understand what is happening but I gave up. My conclusion

    is
    > > >that this problem has nothing to do with the midi interface itself

    because
    > > >of the correctly working midi OUT signals in all the setups I tried.
    > > >
    > > >I hope that a "real" professional recognises this situation and can

    help me
    > > >out....
    > > >
    > > >Thanks in advance
    > > >Marcel Stiefelhagen
    > > >The Netherlands

    > >
    > >

    ****************************************************************************
    **************
    > > I could never _see_ myself as anything!
    > >
    > > Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music
    > > Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email
    > > !!
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    > > _//- \__/

    >
  5. Old Nick

    Old Nick Guest

    On 12 Aug 2003 03:47:41 -0700, mailthuis@lycos.nl (Marcel
    Stiefelhagen) wrote something
    .......and in reply I say!:

    >OK I understand I need to give some more information:
    >
    >See my answers below
    >
    >
    >> OK. IT's not the ol reverse the MIDI leads trap <G>
    >>
    >> Firstly, how are you "looking" for the MIDI signal? What software etc?

    >
    >I check the signal in Cubase VST, i see the green OUT led but the RED
    >IN led stays off.


    Cubase will of course see MIDI Out whether it escapes the box or not.
    But you are actually hearing MIDI playing.

    >Second I tried Quartz audio master and tried to
    >record something. Third I tried a MIDI monitor. No result in all 3
    >setups
    >Of course I first set the MIDI IN device to the Sound card's midi
    >driver, EG Roland Serial Input.


    I am a little confused here. Roland Serial Input does not sound like a
    soundcard MIDI port name. There are drivers that will alow serial
    ports to be used for MIDI. They were never very popular.

    Are you using the gameport, with a 15-oin to MIDi adaptor? You should
    be looking for Yoursoundcard MIDI In (address)

    >> Is it set up to see the incoming MIDI port?

    >Yes it is
    >
    >Can Windows see the MIDI
    >> port? (Soundcard name) MIDI Out (adress)

    >
    >The serial driver is seen as hardware, but no settings are available,
    >so no IRQ or I/O address can be given


    >
    >In case of the gameport midi-drivers there are IRQ's and I/O addreses,
    >but I tried different combinations without success.
    >
    >>
    >> Do you have any intermediate software dealing with the MIDI? MIDI Ox.
    >> Hubi's loopback? MIDI

    >
    >No I have not, unless the MIDI monitor belongs to intermediate
    >software...


    MIDI monitor? he one within Cubase you mean? If so then no it is
    probably not intermediate for our purposes.

    >>
    >> Have you completely disabled the onboard soundcard in the BIOS?

    >
    >Yes I have
    >>
    >> You could be having resource clashes, although having both cards
    >> behave the same is weird.
    >>
    >> You had the same trouble with both ports. Same cable both times? It
    >> could be the cable.

    >
    >No I don't think so, I connected the cable from the keyboard to the
    >SC7 sound module and the "red receiving data led" on the sound module
    >indicates data.


    Hang on. You can't connect a gameport to MIDI adapter from one
    external instrument to another. That's the possible faulty cable I am
    referring to. You _have_ tested MIDI transmit on the keyboard though,
    so that's OK.

    >>
    >> I am assuming the Rolands are two different external synths. Can they
    >> send and receive with each other OK?

    >
    >Yes as explained above..
    >
    >Hope you have enough info...
    >
    >Thanks,
    >Marcel
    >>
    >> >Now here's a real toothbreaker for professional midi guys (which I thought I
    >> >was too)
    >> >The problem is very simple: I am not receiving any midi in signal on my
    >> >computer.
    >> >
    >> >First I used the on-board (VIA AC97) gameport which should be capable of
    >> >sending and receiving midi data.
    >> >Midi OUT = no problem (I attached a Roland keyboard that starts playing the
    >> >midifile I started on my PC)
    >> >but no midi IN signal
    >> >(changed the cable, didn't work)
    >> >
    >> >Second I installed a "real" soundcard (Terractec XLerate) and tried to use
    >> >the gameport of that.
    >> >Same story: Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    >> >
    >> >At last I used my Roland SC7 (that should be capable of sending midi via the
    >> >MIDI-in connection and the serial driver to the computer) but same story:
    >> >Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    >> >
    >> >I'm trying to understand what is happening but I gave up. My conclusion is
    >> >that this problem has nothing to do with the midi interface itself because
    >> >of the correctly working midi OUT signals in all the setups I tried.
    >> >
    >> >I hope that a "real" professional recognises this situation and can help me
    >> >out....
    >> >
    >> >Thanks in advance
    >> >Marcel Stiefelhagen
    >> >The Netherlands

    >>
    >> ******************************************************************************************
    >> I could never _see_ myself as anything!
    >>
    >> Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music
    >> Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email
    >> !!
    >> <")
    >> _/ )
    >> ( )
    >> _//- \__/


    ******************************************************************************************
    I could never _see_ myself as anything!

    Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music
    Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email
    !!
    <")
    _/ )
    ( )
    _//- \__/
  6. Hi Nick (and others),

    Yes indeed, i hear my keyboard playing, so the data leave Cubase and
    the computer...Conclusion: MIDI OUT is OK

    Now you mention something interesting. The soundboard's MIDI IN I/O
    address...
    In the device manager I only see a gameport.
    In the BIOS i can assign an I/O address to the MPU401 (eg 300 - 310)

    In cubase I can see a midi-in an midi-out driver, but i cannot see
    hardware in the devicemanager and thus no settings to change.

    PS Forget about the serial driver...

    nsnfwhite@iinet.net.au (Old Nick) wrote in message news:<3f3987ae.69123387@localhost>...
    > On 12 Aug 2003 03:47:41 -0700, mailthuis@lycos.nl (Marcel
    > Stiefelhagen) wrote something
    > ......and in reply I say!:
    >
    > >OK I understand I need to give some more information:
    > >
    > >See my answers below
    > >
    > >
    > >> OK. IT's not the ol reverse the MIDI leads trap <G>
    > >>
    > >> Firstly, how are you "looking" for the MIDI signal? What software etc?

    > >
    > >I check the signal in Cubase VST, i see the green OUT led but the RED
    > >IN led stays off.

    >
    > Cubase will of course see MIDI Out whether it escapes the box or not.
    > But you are actually hearing MIDI playing.
    >
    > >Second I tried Quartz audio master and tried to
    > >record something. Third I tried a MIDI monitor. No result in all 3
    > >setups
    > >Of course I first set the MIDI IN device to the Sound card's midi
    > >driver, EG Roland Serial Input.

    >
    > I am a little confused here. Roland Serial Input does not sound like a
    > soundcard MIDI port name. There are drivers that will alow serial
    > ports to be used for MIDI. They were never very popular.
    >
    > Are you using the gameport, with a 15-oin to MIDi adaptor? You should
    > be looking for Yoursoundcard MIDI In (address)
    >
    > >> Is it set up to see the incoming MIDI port?

    > >Yes it is
    > >
    > >Can Windows see the MIDI
    > >> port? (Soundcard name) MIDI Out (adress)

    > >
    > >The serial driver is seen as hardware, but no settings are available,
    > >so no IRQ or I/O address can be given

    >
    > >
    > >In case of the gameport midi-drivers there are IRQ's and I/O addreses,
    > >but I tried different combinations without success.
    > >
    > >>
    > >> Do you have any intermediate software dealing with the MIDI? MIDI Ox.
    > >> Hubi's loopback? MIDI

    > >
    > >No I have not, unless the MIDI monitor belongs to intermediate
    > >software...

    >
    > MIDI monitor? he one within Cubase you mean? If so then no it is
    > probably not intermediate for our purposes.
    >
    > >>
    > >> Have you completely disabled the onboard soundcard in the BIOS?

    > >
    > >Yes I have
    > >>
    > >> You could be having resource clashes, although having both cards
    > >> behave the same is weird.
    > >>
    > >> You had the same trouble with both ports. Same cable both times? It
    > >> could be the cable.

    > >
    > >No I don't think so, I connected the cable from the keyboard to the
    > >SC7 sound module and the "red receiving data led" on the sound module
    > >indicates data.

    >
    > Hang on. You can't connect a gameport to MIDI adapter from one
    > external instrument to another. That's the possible faulty cable I am
    > referring to. You _have_ tested MIDI transmit on the keyboard though,
    > so that's OK.
    >
    > >>
    > >> I am assuming the Rolands are two different external synths. Can they
    > >> send and receive with each other OK?

    > >
    > >Yes as explained above..
    > >
    > >Hope you have enough info...
    > >
    > >Thanks,
    > >Marcel
    > >>
    > >> >Now here's a real toothbreaker for professional midi guys (which I thought I
    > >> >was too)
    > >> >The problem is very simple: I am not receiving any midi in signal on my
    > >> >computer.
    > >> >
    > >> >First I used the on-board (VIA AC97) gameport which should be capable of
    > >> >sending and receiving midi data.
    > >> >Midi OUT = no problem (I attached a Roland keyboard that starts playing the
    > >> >midifile I started on my PC)
    > >> >but no midi IN signal
    > >> >(changed the cable, didn't work)
    > >> >
    > >> >Second I installed a "real" soundcard (Terractec XLerate) and tried to use
    > >> >the gameport of that.
    > >> >Same story: Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    > >> >
    > >> >At last I used my Roland SC7 (that should be capable of sending midi via the
    > >> >MIDI-in connection and the serial driver to the computer) but same story:
    > >> >Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    > >> >
    > >> >I'm trying to understand what is happening but I gave up. My conclusion is
    > >> >that this problem has nothing to do with the midi interface itself because
    > >> >of the correctly working midi OUT signals in all the setups I tried.
    > >> >
    > >> >I hope that a "real" professional recognises this situation and can help me
    > >> >out....
    > >> >
    > >> >Thanks in advance
    > >> >Marcel Stiefelhagen
    > >> >The Netherlands
    > >>
    > >> ******************************************************************************************
    > >> I could never _see_ myself as anything!
    > >>
    > >> Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music
    > >> Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email
    > >> !!
    > >> <")
    > >> _/ )
    > >> ( )
    > >> _//- \__/

    >
    > ******************************************************************************************
    > I could never _see_ myself as anything!
    >
    > Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music
    > Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email
    > !!
    > <")
    > _/ )
    > ( )
    > _//- \__/
  7. Old Nick

    Old Nick Guest

    On 13 Aug 2003 03:20:20 -0700, mailthuis@lycos.nl (Marcel
    Stiefelhagen) wrote something
    .......and in reply I say!:

    Reading all the posts, I _have_ to assume you either have a dud cable,
    or you are setting up Cubase wrongly. I know you said to forget this,
    <G> but you have tried serial drivers, and Game Port drivers, and
    worked with two cards, and are having no luck.

    When you tried the Serial driver, were you connected via serial port
    (Comm) on the PC? That eliminates the cable, if you were using some
    sort of Comm to MIDI cable.

    Ok. I am still concerned about that cable, although I see you said you
    changed it when trying to get the onboard card to work. We are talking
    about changing the 15-pin to MIDI cable, right? Can you try it on
    another system that works? Can you try _another_ cable? (Different
    make. Some of them are dodgy). Not always easy I know.

    Or you are trying to aim at the wrong port.

    In Cubase,
    - what is the MIDI In port, that you are trying to use, called
    - what is the Out Port, that does work, called?

    It's unlikely that your Out Port is showing while the In Port does
    not, but it could happen.

    hmmm...if your synths have Out/Thru ports, you can actually set up the
    system to produce MIDI feedback. Make sure MIDI Echo is On in Cubase.
    make sure it's On on the external synth. Plug both MIDI In and MIDI
    Out to the external synth. try to record or play MIDI. If the system
    locks up then you have MIDI cables and you are pointing Cubase OK.

    >Hi Nick (and others),
    >
    >Yes indeed, i hear my keyboard playing, so the data leave Cubase and
    >the computer...Conclusion: MIDI OUT is OK
    >
    >Now you mention something interesting. The soundboard's MIDI IN I/O
    >address...
    >In the device manager I only see a gameport.


    That's OK.

    >In the BIOS i can assign an I/O address to the MPU401 (eg 300 - 310)


    That's the one that should now be dead/disabled. It's the onboard one.

    >
    >In cubase I can see a midi-in an midi-out driver, but i cannot see
    >hardware in the devicemanager and thus no settings to change.
    >
    >PS Forget about the serial driver...
    >
    >nsnfwhite@iinet.net.au (Old Nick) wrote in message news:<3f3987ae.69123387@localhost>...
    >> On 12 Aug 2003 03:47:41 -0700, mailthuis@lycos.nl (Marcel
    >> Stiefelhagen) wrote something
    >> ......and in reply I say!:
    >>
    >> >OK I understand I need to give some more information:
    >> >
    >> >See my answers below
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >> OK. IT's not the ol reverse the MIDI leads trap <G>
    >> >>
    >> >> Firstly, how are you "looking" for the MIDI signal? What software etc?
    >> >
    >> >I check the signal in Cubase VST, i see the green OUT led but the RED
    >> >IN led stays off.

    >>
    >> Cubase will of course see MIDI Out whether it escapes the box or not.
    >> But you are actually hearing MIDI playing.
    >>
    >> >Second I tried Quartz audio master and tried to
    >> >record something. Third I tried a MIDI monitor. No result in all 3
    >> >setups
    >> >Of course I first set the MIDI IN device to the Sound card's midi
    >> >driver, EG Roland Serial Input.

    >>
    >> I am a little confused here. Roland Serial Input does not sound like a
    >> soundcard MIDI port name. There are drivers that will alow serial
    >> ports to be used for MIDI. They were never very popular.
    >>
    >> Are you using the gameport, with a 15-oin to MIDi adaptor? You should
    >> be looking for Yoursoundcard MIDI In (address)
    >>
    >> >> Is it set up to see the incoming MIDI port?
    >> >Yes it is
    >> >
    >> >Can Windows see the MIDI
    >> >> port? (Soundcard name) MIDI Out (adress)
    >> >
    >> >The serial driver is seen as hardware, but no settings are available,
    >> >so no IRQ or I/O address can be given

    >>
    >> >
    >> >In case of the gameport midi-drivers there are IRQ's and I/O addreses,
    >> >but I tried different combinations without success.
    >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> Do you have any intermediate software dealing with the MIDI? MIDI Ox.
    >> >> Hubi's loopback? MIDI
    >> >
    >> >No I have not, unless the MIDI monitor belongs to intermediate
    >> >software...

    >>
    >> MIDI monitor? he one within Cubase you mean? If so then no it is
    >> probably not intermediate for our purposes.
    >>
    >> >>
    >> >> Have you completely disabled the onboard soundcard in the BIOS?
    >> >
    >> >Yes I have
    >> >>
    >> >> You could be having resource clashes, although having both cards
    >> >> behave the same is weird.
    >> >>
    >> >> You had the same trouble with both ports. Same cable both times? It
    >> >> could be the cable.
    >> >
    >> >No I don't think so, I connected the cable from the keyboard to the
    >> >SC7 sound module and the "red receiving data led" on the sound module
    >> >indicates data.

    >>
    >> Hang on. You can't connect a gameport to MIDI adapter from one
    >> external instrument to another. That's the possible faulty cable I am
    >> referring to. You _have_ tested MIDI transmit on the keyboard though,
    >> so that's OK.
    >>
    >> >>
    >> >> I am assuming the Rolands are two different external synths. Can they
    >> >> send and receive with each other OK?
    >> >
    >> >Yes as explained above..
    >> >
    >> >Hope you have enough info...
    >> >
    >> >Thanks,
    >> >Marcel
    >> >>
    >> >> >Now here's a real toothbreaker for professional midi guys (which I thought I
    >> >> >was too)
    >> >> >The problem is very simple: I am not receiving any midi in signal on my
    >> >> >computer.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >First I used the on-board (VIA AC97) gameport which should be capable of
    >> >> >sending and receiving midi data.
    >> >> >Midi OUT = no problem (I attached a Roland keyboard that starts playing the
    >> >> >midifile I started on my PC)
    >> >> >but no midi IN signal
    >> >> >(changed the cable, didn't work)
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Second I installed a "real" soundcard (Terractec XLerate) and tried to use
    >> >> >the gameport of that.
    >> >> >Same story: Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    >> >> >
    >> >> >At last I used my Roland SC7 (that should be capable of sending midi via the
    >> >> >MIDI-in connection and the serial driver to the computer) but same story:
    >> >> >Midi OUT = no problem but no midi IN signal
    >> >> >
    >> >> >I'm trying to understand what is happening but I gave up. My conclusion is
    >> >> >that this problem has nothing to do with the midi interface itself because
    >> >> >of the correctly working midi OUT signals in all the setups I tried.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >I hope that a "real" professional recognises this situation and can help me
    >> >> >out....
    >> >> >
    >> >> >Thanks in advance
    >> >> >Marcel Stiefelhagen
    >> >> >The Netherlands
    >> >>
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    >> >>
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    >>
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