Northeast Blackout 2003

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by George Lawrence, Aug 15, 2003.

  1. Mark Smith

    Mark Smith Guest

    "George Lawrence" <drumguru@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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    > Learn to quote who you are replying to. Different browsers make it look as
    > though you are talking to yourself.
    >


    Learn? LOL. It's not a skill. How do you know I WASN'T talking to myself?

    - Mark
  2. Glenn Dowdy

    Glenn Dowdy Guest

    <bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net> wrote in message
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    > Excuse me, but what the hell has happened to the America
    > I grew up in? The power goes off for a while and it totally
    > takes over the news for the evening on all channels? It's
    > called a "disaster" and a "crisis"? GIMME A BREAK HERE!


    Hear, hear. Thank ghu I don't have TV and put up with all that on-air
    whinging.

    Glenn D.
  3. Glenn Dowdy <glenn.dowdy@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

    > <bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net> wrote in message
    > news:bhjjir$o5i$1@tribune.oar.net...


    >> Excuse me, but what the hell has happened to the America
    >> I grew up in? The power goes off for a while and it totally
    >> takes over the news for the evening on all channels? It's
    >> called a "disaster" and a "crisis"? GIMME A BREAK HERE!


    > Hear, hear. Thank ghu I don't have TV and put up with all that on-air
    > whinging.


    And speaking of the Blackout, I hear that it actually started
    somewhere in Ohio. Well THAT figures! We can't even hire someone
    who can deliver a freakin' package these days let alone
    run a power grid! Welcome to the new millenium! :)

    Benj
    --
    SPAM-Guard! Remove .users (if present) to email me!
  4. Dan Radin

    Dan Radin Guest

    <bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net> wrote in message
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    > I know it chokes me up. Oh The HUMANITY!!! All those
    > poor people totally helpless without their Internet
    > service! (sobs) I can't go on....


    If you saw the massive number of people walking, and the people lined up
    waiting for the power to come back on for the gas pumps, you might change
    your tune.

    I was there.

    New Yorkers amazed me with their stength and stability. Why don't you try
    walking from Wall Street to Queens or Brooklyn or Long Island after putting
    in an eighth hour day.
  5. Glenn Dowdy

    Glenn Dowdy Guest

    "Dan Radin" <danradin@snet.net> wrote in message
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    > <bjacoby@users.iwaynet.net> wrote in message
    > news:bhjjir$o5i$1@tribune.oar.net...
    > > I know it chokes me up. Oh The HUMANITY!!! All those
    > > poor people totally helpless without their Internet
    > > service! (sobs) I can't go on....

    >
    > If you saw the massive number of people walking, and the people lined up
    > waiting for the power to come back on for the gas pumps, you might change
    > your tune.


    Nope, don't think so.
    >
    > I was there.
    >
    > New Yorkers amazed me with their stength and stability. Why don't you try
    > walking from Wall Street to Queens or Brooklyn or Long Island after

    putting
    > in an eighth hour day.
    >

    Hey, I live at 5000' in a state where people climb 14,000' mountains, camp
    in the snow, and sleep on the side of 2000' cliffs for fun. You won't
    impress anyone here with _walking_.

    Glenn D.
  6. John P.

    John P. Guest

    "Dan Radin" <danradin@snet.net> wrote in a message

    > If you saw the massive number of people walking, and the people lined up
    > waiting for the power to come back on for the gas pumps, you might change
    > your tune.
    > I was there.
    > New Yorkers amazed me with their stength and stability. Why don't you try
    > walking from Wall Street to Queens or Brooklyn or Long Island after

    putting
    > in an eighth hour day.


    <busting out my violin>

    Oh... sob... the horror! Those poor yuppies.

    OMG Dan. I'm not sure whether to laugh or just shake my head. Out here in
    the far burbs, Farmer Bob walks farther from his tractor to the house just
    for lunch, after putting in 7 house BEFORE lunch. Then he walks back out to
    do at least another 7 after lunch.
  7. On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 00:28:26 +0000, Dan Radin wrote:

    >
    > New Yorkers amazed me with their stength and stability. Why don't you try
    > walking from Wall Street to Queens or Brooklyn or Long Island after putting
    > in an eighth hour day.



    What are you, kidding?
    --

    peace,

    Rog

    http://www.slammingrooves.com

    "ooh big comeback from the non fan AKA little drummer boy"

    theRob in alt.sports.hockey.nhl.nj-devils
  8. "John P." <JohnP6617@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
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    > "Dan Radin" <danradin@snet.net> wrote in a message
    >
    > > If you saw the massive number of people walking, and the people lined up
    > > waiting for the power to come back on for the gas pumps, you might

    change
    > > your tune.
    > > I was there.
    > > New Yorkers amazed me with their stength and stability. Why don't you

    try
    > > walking from Wall Street to Queens or Brooklyn or Long Island after

    > putting
    > > in an eighth hour day.

    >
    > <busting out my violin>
    >
    > Oh... sob... the horror! Those poor yuppies.
    >
    > OMG Dan. I'm not sure whether to laugh or just shake my head. Out here in
    > the far burbs, Farmer Bob walks farther from his tractor to the house just
    > for lunch, after putting in 7 house BEFORE lunch. Then he walks back out

    to
    > do at least another 7 after lunch.
    >
    >

    One of the difference is that Farmer John was prepared to do some walking
    and wore the appropriate attire, specifically footwear. Do you think Farmer
    John or Mrs. John would walk that in dress shoes? Talk them off an walk
    barefoot or in nylons? Not a good comparison.
  9. "Roger Sherman" <coolgrooves@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:pan.2003.08.19.03.03.15.120379@hotmail.com...
    > On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 00:28:26 +0000, Dan Radin wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > New Yorkers amazed me with their stength and stability. Why don't you

    try
    > > walking from Wall Street to Queens or Brooklyn or Long Island after

    putting
    > > in an eighth hour day.

    >
    >
    > What are you, kidding?
    > --
    >
    > peace,
    >
    > Rog
    >
    > http://www.slammingrooves.com
    >
    > "ooh big comeback from the non fan AKA little drummer boy"
    >
    > theRob in alt.sports.hockey.nhl.nj-devi


    I think he raises agreat point. Walking after an eight hour day is
    easy...not if you are caught off guard an unprepared.
    >
  10. MMORITZ884

    MMORITZ884 Guest

    >I think he raises agreat point. Walking after an eight hour day is
    >easy...not if you are caught off guard an unprepared.


    No kidding. Eight hours of Tetris and Quake can wear you out!

    (Have Americans really become such wimps? Apparently so. It's OK to be tired,
    and footsore, but sniveling about it is just so -- I don't know -- French!)
  11. John P.

    John P. Guest

    "Steve Gardner" <stevegardnermyclothing@cox.net> wrote in a message

    > One of the difference is that Farmer John was prepared to do some walking
    > and wore the appropriate attire, specifically footwear. Do you think

    Farmer
    > John or Mrs. John would walk that in dress shoes? Talk them off an walk
    > barefoot or in nylons? Not a good comparison.


    True enough. I also didn't consider that our poor yuppies, in addition to
    being unprepared in the area of footwear, are also likely extremely out of
    shape for lack of any physical activity more strenuous than hoisting their
    cell phone to their ear.

    Sorry man... this farmer John puts in an 8 hour yuppie day (which involves a
    great deal of walking I suppose), then comes home and changes his shoes
    (just like Mr. Rogers!) and puts in a good night of Farmer John duties. ...
    and then play drums for a couple of hours.

    Lets see if it's on the board.... BZZZZZZZZ... wrong answer. Still no pity
    for yuppies taking a stroll.
  12. "John P." <JohnP6617@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
    news:imh0b.50509$2x.19022@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
    > "Steve Gardner" <stevegardnermyclothing@cox.net> wrote in a message
    >
    > > One of the difference is that Farmer John was prepared to do some

    walking
    > > and wore the appropriate attire, specifically footwear. Do you think

    > Farmer
    > > John or Mrs. John would walk that in dress shoes? Talk them off an walk
    > > barefoot or in nylons? Not a good comparison.

    >
    > True enough. I also didn't consider that our poor yuppies, in addition to
    > being unprepared in the area of footwear, are also likely extremely out of
    > shape for lack of any physical activity more strenuous than hoisting their
    > cell phone to their ear.
    >
    > Sorry man... this farmer John puts in an 8 hour yuppie day (which involves

    a
    > great deal of walking I suppose), then comes home and changes his shoes
    > (just like Mr. Rogers!) and puts in a good night of Farmer John duties.

    ....
    > and then play drums for a couple of hours.
    >
    > Lets see if it's on the board.... BZZZZZZZZ... wrong answer. Still no pity
    > for yuppies taking a stroll.


    I think to classify all who had to walk for miles and miles as "yuppies" is
    pretty shortsighted. Many of these folks are yuppies, thats for certain.
    Many are unhealthy, disabled, pregnant, etc. I understand and sympathize
    with those caught off guard who are not fit and were not prepared at all for
    this. I come home from my yuppie job and go for long walks...at my
    convenience. If I were to get notified at work tomorrow that I had to walk
    ten miles home with no preperation, I would be moaning about it.
  13. John P.

    John P. Guest

    "Steve Gardner" <stevegardnermyclothing@cox.net> wrote in a message

    > I think to classify all who had to walk for miles and miles as "yuppies"

    is
    > pretty shortsighted.


    Why? You think they have a lot of blue collar workers & farmers working in
    Manhattan? Got some of them roof gardens going on?

    > Many of these folks are yuppies, thats for certain. Many are unhealthy,

    disabled,
    > pregnant, etc.


    Unhealthy (unfit)? For sure.
    Disabled... I can sympathize with that.
    Pregnant? No sympathy on that one either... it is a voluntary (and foolish)
    condition. (Thankfully my dear mother would disagree with me on the
    "foolish" part).

    > I understand and sympathize with those caught off guard who are not fit

    and
    > were not prepared at all for this.


    Being unprepared is a choice. Shit happens. That's life. You have to be
    willing to explore options. If it is just a matter of shoes and socks, what
    would it take to stop and buy a cheap pair of each? If walking was totally
    out of the question, one could (quickly, off the top of my head); Stay where
    you are. Stay at a nearby hotel. Buy a bicycle. Pay someone on a motorcycle
    to give you a ride.

    > I come home from my yuppie job and go for long walks...at my
    > convenience. If I were to get notified at work tomorrow that I had to walk
    > ten miles home with no preperation, I would be moaning about it.


    Then I'd be picking on you for moaning about it. ;-)

    "No one ever complained their way to the top." - Don't know who
  14. joem

    joem Guest

    John P. wanted everyone in rec.music.makers.percussion to know that
    > True enough. I also didn't consider that our poor yuppies, in addition to
    > being unprepared in the area of footwear, are also likely extremely out of
    > shape for lack of any physical activity more strenuous than hoisting their
    > cell phone to their ear.
    >
    > Sorry man... this farmer John puts in an 8 hour yuppie day (which involves a
    > great deal of walking I suppose), then comes home and changes his shoes
    > (just like Mr. Rogers!) and puts in a good night of Farmer John duties. ...
    > and then play drums for a couple of hours.
    >
    > Lets see if it's on the board.... BZZZZZZZZ... wrong answer. Still no pity
    > for yuppies taking a stroll.


    wow. what are you, 5?

    next you'll be saying that people working in the twin towers on 9/11
    should be happy that they got off of work early!

    --
    Joe.

    "you're an electronic girl...i'm a rock guy...i don't think we have a
    chance." - storm&stress
  15. "John P." <JohnP6617@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
    news:imh0b.50509$2x.19022@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
    > "Steve Gardner" <stevegardnermyclothing@cox.net> wrote in a message
    >
    > > One of the difference is that Farmer John was prepared to do some

    walking
    > > and wore the appropriate attire, specifically footwear. Do you think

    > Farmer
    > > John or Mrs. John would walk that in dress shoes? Talk them off an walk
    > > barefoot or in nylons? Not a good comparison.

    >
    > True enough. I also didn't consider that our poor yuppies, in addition to
    > being unprepared in the area of footwear, are also likely extremely out of
    > shape for lack of any physical activity more strenuous than hoisting their
    > cell phone to their ear.
    >
    > Sorry man... this farmer John puts in an 8 hour yuppie day (which involves

    a
    > great deal of walking I suppose), then comes home and changes his shoes
    > (just like Mr. Rogers!) and puts in a good night of Farmer John duties.

    ....
    > and then play drums for a couple of hours.


    By choice, of course.

    > Lets see if it's on the board.... BZZZZZZZZ... wrong answer. Still no pity
    > for yuppies taking a stroll.


    What about the hundreds of thousands of people who commute from between
    25 to 100 miles to NYC everyday? People from Upstate New York, New Jersey,
    Connecticut and even Pennsylvania... Our own Mo Roberts had to walk from
    Lower Manhattan to Westchester County. That ain't no casual stroll, my
    friend. It's more like a marathon - or two marathons, if you live near me.

    I think you'd be singing a different tune if your wife or daughter were
    stuck in an elevator, or on a subway (ever been in a subway station on a 95
    degree day? - not to mention stuck BETWEEN them in a pitch black, rat
    infested subway tunnel?). Of course, you'd have no way of contacting her (or
    she, you), and she'd have no way of getting home to the burbs, even when she
    finally got out. Cell phones and many landlines useless, hotels full, stores
    and restaurants closed, no available public transportation, gas stations
    useless... I think you can see where I'm going here.

    I agree that the media sensationalized the shit out of the whole thing
    and we're ALL sick of hearing about it, but your trivialization of the
    largest blackout in the history of the North America shows your ignorance of
    the situation. And the "Farmer John" comparison is flat-out ridiculous...
    It's very easy to heckle from the sidelines.

    Stepping down from the soapbox,
    CM
  16. joem

    joem Guest

    Chris Milillo wanted everyone in rec.music.makers.percussion to know that
    >> and then play drums for a couple of hours.

    >
    > By choice, of course.
    >
    >> Lets see if it's on the board.... BZZZZZZZZ... wrong answer. Still no pity
    >> for yuppies taking a stroll.

    >
    > What about the hundreds of thousands of people who commute from between
    > 25 to 100 miles to NYC everyday? People from Upstate New York, New Jersey,
    > Connecticut and even Pennsylvania... Our own Mo Roberts had to walk from
    > Lower Manhattan to Westchester County. That ain't no casual stroll, my
    > friend. It's more like a marathon - or two marathons, if you live near me.
    >
    > I think you'd be singing a different tune if your wife or daughter were
    > stuck in an elevator, or on a subway (ever been in a subway station on a 95
    > degree day? - not to mention stuck BETWEEN them in a pitch black, rat
    > infested subway tunnel?). Of course, you'd have no way of contacting her (or
    > she, you), and she'd have no way of getting home to the burbs, even when she
    > finally got out. Cell phones and many landlines useless, hotels full, stores
    > and restaurants closed, no available public transportation, gas stations
    > useless... I think you can see where I'm going here.
    >
    > I agree that the media sensationalized the shit out of the whole thing
    > and we're ALL sick of hearing about it, but your trivialization of the
    > largest blackout in the history of the North America shows your ignorance of
    > the situation. And the "Farmer John" comparison is flat-out ridiculous...
    > It's very easy to heckle from the sidelines.
    >
    > Stepping down from the soapbox,


    well said, Chris. good man!

    --
    Joe.

    "you're an electronic girl...i'm a rock guy...i don't think we have a
    chance." - storm&stress
  17. "John P." <JohnP6617@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
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    > "Steve Gardner" <stevegardnermyclothing@cox.net> wrote in a message
    >
    > > I think to classify all who had to walk for miles and miles as "yuppies"

    > is
    > > pretty shortsighted.

    >
    > Why? You think they have a lot of blue collar workers & farmers working in
    > Manhattan? Got some of them roof gardens going on?
    >
    > > Many of these folks are yuppies, thats for certain. Many are unhealthy,

    > disabled,
    > > pregnant, etc.

    >
    > Unhealthy (unfit)? For sure.
    > Disabled... I can sympathize with that.
    > Pregnant? No sympathy on that one either... it is a voluntary (and

    foolish)
    > condition. (Thankfully my dear mother would disagree with me on the
    > "foolish" part).
    >
    > > I understand and sympathize with those caught off guard who are not fit

    > and
    > > were not prepared at all for this.

    >
    > Being unprepared is a choice. Shit happens. That's life. You have to be
    > willing to explore options. If it is just a matter of shoes and socks,

    what
    > would it take to stop and buy a cheap pair of each? If walking was totally
    > out of the question, one could (quickly, off the top of my head); Stay

    where
    > you are. Stay at a nearby hotel. Buy a bicycle. Pay someone on a

    motorcycle
    > to give you a ride.
    >
    > > I come home from my yuppie job and go for long walks...at my
    > > convenience. If I were to get notified at work tomorrow that I had to

    walk
    > > ten miles home with no preperation, I would be moaning about it.

    >
    > Then I'd be picking on you for moaning about it. ;-)
    >
    > "No one ever complained their way to the top." - Don't know who
    >
    >

    Nice troll work John. Done with you.
  18. John P.

    John P. Guest

    "joem" <jmelnyk@REMOVE_THIS_PARTcs.kent.edu> wrote in a message

    > wow. what are you, 5?


    I suppose if I were, I might think that walking was a difficult task.

    > next you'll be saying that people working in the twin towers on 9/11
    > should be happy that they got off of work early!


    Uh, Joe. The lights went out... for a few hours. It was a little warm out
    and people had to walk. Dealing with adversity is a part of life. Taking a
    little stroll on a summer day hardly qualifies as adversity. Inconvenience,
    yes. Adversity, no.
  19. John P.

    John P. Guest

    "Chris Milillo" <drums@bestweb.net> wrote in a message

    > What about the hundreds of thousands of people who commute from between
    > 25 to 100 miles to NYC everyday?


    Stay where you are. Get a hotel room. Buy a milkshake and relax in the park
    for a few hours. Buy a bike. Pay a motorcyclist for a ride....

    > I think you'd be singing a different tune if your wife or daughter were
    > stuck in an elevator, or on a subway (ever been in a subway station on a

    95
    > degree day?...


    I don't think I sing well, so I'll stick to my same tune. Hundred of
    thousands of people were *inconvenienced* for a day. Has my family ever been
    inconvenienced? Sure. Do I think it's worth days of whining? No.

    > I agree that the media sensationalized the shit out of the whole thing
    > and we're ALL sick of hearing about it, but your trivialization of the
    > largest blackout in the history of the North America shows your ignorance

    of
    > the situation.


    Actually, it shows that I have a clear understanding of true adversity and a
    solid grasp on reality.
  20. John P.

    John P. Guest

    "Steve Gardner" <stevegardnermyclothing@cox.net> wrote in a message

    > Nice troll work John. Done with you.


    Darn. I can't believe I'll have to live without another "anyone who
    disagrees with my pathetic whining is a troll" poster. If I buy you some
    good walking shoes and promise to rub your feet at the end of the block will
    you come back... please please please???

    Pfffft.

    AMF

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