Now He Sings, Now He Sobs reissue

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by Robert Schuh, Jul 25, 2003.

  1. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    Glenn Wilson wrote:

    > Robert - Strange you mentioned it, but one of the things I'm always struck
    > by is Roy's cymbal sound on that recording. Maybe it's the recording or the
    > fact that it's a trio, but that sound just sticks in my head (no pun
    > intended).
    >
    > Glenn
    > www.jazzmaniac.com
    >


    Glenn,
    That is one of the most famous ride cymbal sounds of all time. Flat rides,
    because of having no bell, produce very few overtones, so you get basically all
    stick attack. While this is great for that sound, it also makes them horrible
    for versatility. You get no sound of you crash them, no sound if you play
    mallets on them and unless you have a rivet or 2, you get no sound with brushes.
    I personally gave up on them years ago. I tried one again not too long ago and
    while the stick sound was wonderful, I could not justify have a part of my
    musical set up that was so limiting. I can get an infinite array of sounds from
    my standard rides, so I just use 3 20 rides and get all the sounds I could
    need! Yes, I could add a flat as a 4th cymbal, but 4 cymbals is just not my cup
    of tea. ;-)



    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  2. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    Zoot wrote:

    > "Glenn Wilson" <glenn.wilsonNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message news:<xVaUa.66841$EZ2.60815@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
    > > Robert - Strange you mentioned it, but one of the things I'm always struck
    > > by is Roy's cymbal sound on that recording. Maybe it's the recording or the
    > > fact that it's a trio, but that sound just sticks in my head (no pun
    > > intended).

    >
    > i remember hearing that for that recording roy had half the tips cut
    > off his sticks. more of a half hourglass shape instead of egg. also
    > sounds like a pretty long taper


    I have owned both 18" and 20" Paiste 602 flats. It is the cymbal, not the sticks.


    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  3. ric

    ric Guest

    Robert Schuh wrote:

    > JC Martin wrote:
    >
    > > "Bradley Evans" <bradley_evans@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:e54e0cfa.0307250412.2f7d40dd@posting.google.com...
    > > > Robert Schuh wrote...
    > > > > I just received my Spring 2003 Blue Note catalogue and there is a new
    > > > > release of this great Chick album. It has been remastered in 24 bit and
    > > > > also has 8 new cuts. [...]
    > > >
    > > > To clarify: It has 8 bonus tracks compared to the original LP. It has no
    > > > new tracks compared to the previous CD release.

    > >
    > > Thanks. 24-bit may not be enough for me to re-purchase then.
    > >
    > > -JC

    >
    > How about 8 new cuts though? :)


    Good reading skills, Robert. JC's original Blue Note CD *has* the "new"
    cuts. The 2002 release is just 24 bit, which apparently is not enough to
    attract him.

    The LP had 5 cuts. *All* CDs have 13. The extra 8 are from the LP "Circling
    In."

    http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=MISS70307020213&sql=Aik9ss37ya3rg

    --
    Better than hearing "Lady Day", or checking in at Monterey...
  4. Nick

    Nick Guest

    Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message news:<3F21F70A.FED6A5C9@robschuh.com>...
    > Glenn Wilson wrote:
    > What I have to wonder
    > with a guy like Chick now is, why keep up with this dated Fusiony crap? I am
    > sure Chick is well off enough $ wise where he could just stay with really
    > playing the shit. Everyone knows he can play his ass off too. I am not saying he
    > has to set up a trio like Keith Jarrett has with DeJohnette and Gary Peacock,
    > but he really could do some wonderful shit. I am looking forward do hearing
    > these extra tracks on this new issue.
    >


    Funny you should put forth that idea, because that seems to be exactly
    what he is doing. I don't think he's had an "elektric" release since
    the mid-90's.

    Thanks to all for the info. NHSNHS was a little before my time; I'm
    not a completist and that one always seemed to slip through the
    cracks. Now I'm motivated to pick it up, though.

    A final question: any thoughts on Steve Gadd vs. Roy Haynes as a
    straight-ahead drummer, particularly with Chick? Gadd can be heard on
    "Humpty Dumpty" (from the album "The Mad Hatter"), "Friends," and
    "Three Quartets." I know Gadd isn't considered a jazz legend the same
    way Haynes is, but his playing blows me away on the Chick stuff. I
    can't recall enough about Haynes' playing to have a strong opinion
    about him.
  5. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    ric wrote:

    > Robert Schuh wrote:
    >
    > > JC Martin wrote:
    > >
    > > > "Bradley Evans" <bradley_evans@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:e54e0cfa.0307250412.2f7d40dd@posting.google.com...
    > > > > Robert Schuh wrote...
    > > > > > I just received my Spring 2003 Blue Note catalogue and there is a new
    > > > > > release of this great Chick album. It has been remastered in 24 bit and
    > > > > > also has 8 new cuts. [...]
    > > > >
    > > > > To clarify: It has 8 bonus tracks compared to the original LP. It has no
    > > > > new tracks compared to the previous CD release.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks. 24-bit may not be enough for me to re-purchase then.
    > > >
    > > > -JC

    > >
    > > How about 8 new cuts though? :)

    >
    > Good reading skills, Robert. JC's original Blue Note CD *has* the "new"
    > cuts. The 2002 release is just 24 bit, which apparently is not enough to
    > attract him.
    >
    > The LP had 5 cuts. *All* CDs have 13. The extra 8 are from the LP "Circling
    > In."
    >
    > http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=MISS70307020213&sql=Aik9ss37ya3rg
    >
    > --
    > Better than hearing "Lady Day", or checking in at Monterey...


    You know Ric, where was the need to turn this into a personal attack? I had NO idea
    his version had the extra tracks. Why don't you at least grow some balls and post
    your name when you are going to talk shit? What an asshole. BTW, did you see he
    smiley next to my comment? Get a fucking life. I am guessing "'Ric" is yet another
    non player asshole.


    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  6. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    Nick wrote:

    > Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message news:<3F21F70A.FED6A5C9@robschuh.com>...
    > > Glenn Wilson wrote:
    > > What I have to wonder
    > > with a guy like Chick now is, why keep up with this dated Fusiony crap? I am
    > > sure Chick is well off enough $ wise where he could just stay with really
    > > playing the shit. Everyone knows he can play his ass off too. I am not saying he
    > > has to set up a trio like Keith Jarrett has with DeJohnette and Gary Peacock,
    > > but he really could do some wonderful shit. I am looking forward do hearing
    > > these extra tracks on this new issue.
    > >

    >
    > Funny you should put forth that idea, because that seems to be exactly
    > what he is doing. I don't think he's had an "elektric" release since
    > the mid-90's.
    >
    > Thanks to all for the info. NHSNHS was a little before my time; I'm
    > not a completist and that one always seemed to slip through the
    > cracks. Now I'm motivated to pick it up, though.
    >
    > A final question: any thoughts on Steve Gadd vs. Roy Haynes as a
    > straight-ahead drummer, particularly with Chick? Gadd can be heard on
    > "Humpty Dumpty" (from the album "The Mad Hatter"), "Friends," and
    > "Three Quartets." I know Gadd isn't considered a jazz legend the same
    > way Haynes is, but his playing blows me away on the Chick stuff. I
    > can't recall enough about Haynes' playing to have a strong opinion
    > about him.


    I can't stand Steve GAdd's Jazz playing. He is very stiff and his drum sound is absolutely
    fucking horrible. The fact that he would show up to a Jazz gig with the same commercial
    sounding kit that he used with Steely Dan is reprehensible to me. Gadd is a great drummer,
    but there are about 500 guys I would rather hear play Jazz. There is no comparison of Gadd to
    Roy Haynes. Roy is a legend, Gadd is studio legend, but that means nothing in Jazz.


    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  7. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    Eric wrote:

    > Robert Schuh wrote:
    >
    > > You know Ric, where was the need to turn this into a personal attack?

    >
    > LOL! You accuse others of being rapists of young boys, yet get defensive
    > when I point out that you have poor reading skills? Boo hoo...


    THE key here is that YOU had nothing to do with this post. YOU attacked me
    for you reason. My comment to the other guy was not offensive in any way. As
    to your illogical and libelous assertion that my reading skills are suspect,
    I'll put my educational background up against yours any day of the week. BTW,
    how often are you paid for your writing?

    >
    >
    > > I had NO idea his version had the extra tracks.

    >
    > It had been pointed out in multiple posts that only the LP was missing
    > the additional tracks. You even quoted this back, along with JC's comment
    > that "...24-bit may not be enough for me to re-purchase then." ("Then"
    > being the definitive word.) Don't you read what you quote?


    What I want to know is why you even give a shit? This had NOTHING to do with
    you. You are just another pussy troll.

    >
    >
    > > Why don't you at least grow some
    > > balls and post your name when you are going to talk shit?

    >
    > I do. In fact, you used it above.
    >


    Post your entire name, pussy.

    >
    > > What an asshole.

    >
    > From you, high praise!
    >
    > > BTW, did you see he smiley next to my comment?

    >
    > Is that your way of showing the group that you *do* have some sort
    > of talent? Your musical prowess sure has been rebuffed.
    >
    > Have fun at your reunion.
    >
    > --
    > Better than hearing "Lady Day", or checking in at Monterey...


    My musical talent has been rebuffed? By whom? You are yet another anonymous
    pussy who is unable to use facts when trying to make a point or in an
    argument. I suggest you butch up a bit. I'll give you $10,000.00 if you can
    find any professional Jazz musician whom I have performed with who would back
    up your libelous comments. How does that grab you? Cunt. Get a life. Are you
    even a musician?


    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  8. Mark Rance

    Mark Rance Guest

    Can someone here please clue me in as to how and why fusion is "dated" and
    yet the geriatric jazz standards, most of which pre-dated the original
    fusion releases... are not, by definition, also dated or out-dated as the
    case might be.
    This concept continues to escape me.

    -Mark

    "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
    news:3F25BEB5.5F07310D@robschuh.com...
    > Nick wrote:
    >
    > > Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message

    news:<3F21F70A.FED6A5C9@robschuh.com>...
    > > > Glenn Wilson wrote:
    > > > What I have to wonder
    > > > with a guy like Chick now is, why keep up with this dated Fusiony

    crap? I am
    > > > sure Chick is well off enough $ wise where he could just stay with

    really
    > > > playing the shit. Everyone knows he can play his ass off too. I am not

    saying he
    > > > has to set up a trio like Keith Jarrett has with DeJohnette and Gary

    Peacock,
    > > > but he really could do some wonderful shit. I am looking forward do

    hearing
    > > > these extra tracks on this new issue.
    > > >

    > >
    > > Funny you should put forth that idea, because that seems to be exactly
    > > what he is doing. I don't think he's had an "elektric" release since
    > > the mid-90's.
    > >
    > > Thanks to all for the info. NHSNHS was a little before my time; I'm
    > > not a completist and that one always seemed to slip through the
    > > cracks. Now I'm motivated to pick it up, though.
    > >
    > > A final question: any thoughts on Steve Gadd vs. Roy Haynes as a
    > > straight-ahead drummer, particularly with Chick? Gadd can be heard on
    > > "Humpty Dumpty" (from the album "The Mad Hatter"), "Friends," and
    > > "Three Quartets." I know Gadd isn't considered a jazz legend the same
    > > way Haynes is, but his playing blows me away on the Chick stuff. I
    > > can't recall enough about Haynes' playing to have a strong opinion
    > > about him.

    >
    > I can't stand Steve GAdd's Jazz playing. He is very stiff and his drum

    sound is absolutely
    > fucking horrible. The fact that he would show up to a Jazz gig with the

    same commercial
    > sounding kit that he used with Steely Dan is reprehensible to me. Gadd is

    a great drummer,
    > but there are about 500 guys I would rather hear play Jazz. There is no

    comparison of Gadd to
    > Roy Haynes. Roy is a legend, Gadd is studio legend, but that means nothing

    in Jazz.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Robert Schuh
    > "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    > intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    > the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    > the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    > - Nietzsche
    >
    > "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
    >
    >
  9. Rod Stasick

    Rod Stasick Guest

    ric <nospam@home.com> wrote in message news:<3F23623B.276AE8CF@home.com>...
    > The LP had 5 cuts. *All* CDs have 13. The extra 8 are from the LP "Circling
    > In."
    >
    > http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=MISS70307020213&sql=Aik9ss37ya3rg



    A while back, before putting my LP of "Circling In" on eBay, I wanted
    to gather all of the tunes from that LP together from CDs. I was
    really surprised how spread out those tunes were. I think, you'd have
    to have the "Now He Sings..." CD (By the way, wasn't the song: "Now He
    Beats the Drum..." and NOT "...Drums..." [plural] on the original
    LP?), and a copy of "The Beginning" (to get "Blues Connotation") and a
    copy of "Early Circle" to get the rest. Yanow, by the way, leaves out
    "Duet for Bass and Piano #2" in his song listing for "Cicling In" that
    was included, too, on that LP. (and it's "...Kelvin", not
    "...Kalvin").

    ....and about "Circle" - yes! great stuff! The Japanese CDs of "Circle
    1: Live in Germany" and "Circle 2: The Gathering" are worth the search
    too!

    r
  10. ric

    ric Guest

    Robert Schuh wrote:

    > I'll give you $10,000.00 if you can
    > find any professional Jazz musician whom I have performed with who would back
    > up your libelous comments. How does that grab you? Cunt. Get a life.


    Chances are that I won't even find a professional jazz musician that will
    admit performing with you. You don't pay your debts, anyway.

    You are nothing more than a foul mouthed ex con failure. You make Amos
    shine in comparison, which I didn't think was possible.

    > Are you even a musician?


    And that has ??? to do with this thread? The fact that you are a moron
    doesn't vary either way.

    --
    Better than hearing "Lady Day", or checking in at Monterey...
  11. "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
    news:3F25BEB5.5F07310D@robschuh.com...
    > Nick wrote:
    > > A final question: any thoughts on Steve Gadd vs. Roy Haynes as a
    > > straight-ahead drummer, particularly with Chick? Gadd can be heard

    on
    > > "Humpty Dumpty" (from the album "The Mad Hatter"), "Friends," and
    > > "Three Quartets." I know Gadd isn't considered a jazz legend the

    same
    > > way Haynes is, but his playing blows me away on the Chick stuff. I
    > > can't recall enough about Haynes' playing to have a strong opinion
    > > about him.

    >
    > I can't stand Steve GAdd's Jazz playing. He is very stiff and his drum

    sound is absolutely
    > fucking horrible. The fact that he would show up to a Jazz gig with

    the same commercial
    > sounding kit that he used with Steely Dan is reprehensible to me. Gadd

    is a great drummer,
    > but there are about 500 guys I would rather hear play Jazz. There is

    no comparison of Gadd to
    > Roy Haynes. Roy is a legend, Gadd is studio legend, but that means

    nothing in Jazz.

    I'm not sure why Nick was asking for a comparison between Gadd and
    Haynes (haven't been following the discussion much), but I'll agree with
    Schuh that Roy Haynes is a deserved legend (in a jazz pantheon way above
    Gadd, sure - Nick, you should definitely (re)acquaint yourself!), but
    disagree on his assessment of Gadd, who I thought sounded very good in
    the contexts he played in, as Nick points out (also see those early
    Steps albums). Coincidentally, a Gadd thread just popped up on
    jazzcorner:
    http://jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1922
    --
    Vincent Kargatis
    np: Duck Baker - "Nick at T's" (Spinning Song)
  12. Rod Stasick wrote in message...
    > A while back, before putting my LP of "Circling In" on eBay, I wanted
    > to gather all of the tunes from that LP together from CDs. I was
    > really surprised how spread out those tunes were. I think, you'd have
    > to have the "Now He Sings..." CD [...], and a copy of "The Beginning"
    > (to get "Blues Connotation") and a copy of "Early Circle" to get the rest.


    Alternately, everything on "The Beginning" is also included as bonus
    tracks on "The Song of Singing" CD (except "Percussion Piece" which
    is on "Early Circle").

    Seriously, this Corea/Holland/Altschul/Circle stuff has to be the most
    haphazardly released material around, spanning some half dozen LP or
    CD releases: "Song of Singing", "Circling In", "Circulus", "Early Circle",
    "The Beginning". I think I have it all now except for "Quartet Piece"
    Numbers 1 through 3 from the "Circulus" LP. Does anyone know if these
    three tracks are available on CD in any form?

    Hopefully Blue Note will someday issue a coherent 2-CD set collecting
    all this stuff like their excellent "Complete Is Sessions".

    -Brad
    (Who casts his vote for "Drone" as the best thing Corea ever did.)
  13. Rod Stasick

    Rod Stasick Guest

    Bradley - I have to agree with all that you say right here - it's a
    real mess that cries for a good reissue. Many young guys who are into
    the improv scene would really like to (and should) hear this work.
    It's stuff that I grew up on and went thru many copies of practicing
    drums to. Have yet to see the "Quartet Piece" works reissued at all...

    Rod








    bradley_evans@hotmail.com (Bradley Evans) wrote in message news:<e54e0cfa.0307290426.30df792f@posting.google.com>...
    > Rod Stasick wrote in message...
    > > A while back, before putting my LP of "Circling In" on eBay, I wanted
    > > to gather all of the tunes from that LP together from CDs. I was
    > > really surprised how spread out those tunes were. I think, you'd have
    > > to have the "Now He Sings..." CD [...], and a copy of "The Beginning"
    > > (to get "Blues Connotation") and a copy of "Early Circle" to get the rest.

    >
    > Alternately, everything on "The Beginning" is also included as bonus
    > tracks on "The Song of Singing" CD (except "Percussion Piece" which
    > is on "Early Circle").
    >
    > Seriously, this Corea/Holland/Altschul/Circle stuff has to be the most
    > haphazardly released material around, spanning some half dozen LP or
    > CD releases: "Song of Singing", "Circling In", "Circulus", "Early Circle",
    > "The Beginning". I think I have it all now except for "Quartet Piece"
    > Numbers 1 through 3 from the "Circulus" LP. Does anyone know if these
    > three tracks are available on CD in any form?
    >
    > Hopefully Blue Note will someday issue a coherent 2-CD set collecting
    > all this stuff like their excellent "Complete Is Sessions".
    >
    > -Brad
    > (Who casts his vote for "Drone" as the best thing Corea ever did.)
  14. On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:34:46 -0600, Mark Rance wrote:

    > Can someone here please clue me in as to how and why fusion is "dated" and
    > yet the geriatric jazz standards, most of which pre-dated the original
    > fusion releases... are not, by definition, also dated or out-dated as the
    > case might be.
    > This concept continues to escape me.
    >
    > -Mark



    Depends on what you call "fusion." If you call Chick Corea's "The
    Leprechaun" fusion, a lot of the sounds are very dated. If you call Wayne
    Krantz fusion, then there ain't nothing dated about it at all.



    >
    > "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
    > news:3F25BEB5.5F07310D@robschuh.com...
    >> Nick wrote:
    >>
    >> > Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message

    > news:<3F21F70A.FED6A5C9@robschuh.com>...
    >> > > Glenn Wilson wrote:
    >> > > What I have to wonder
    >> > > with a guy like Chick now is, why keep up with this dated Fusiony

    > crap? I am
    >> > > sure Chick is well off enough $ wise where he could just stay with

    > really
    >> > > playing the shit. Everyone knows he can play his ass off too. I am not

    > saying he
    >> > > has to set up a trio like Keith Jarrett has with DeJohnette and Gary

    > Peacock,
    >> > > but he really could do some wonderful shit. I am looking forward do

    > hearing
    >> > > these extra tracks on this new issue.
    >> > >
    >> >
    >> > Funny you should put forth that idea, because that seems to be exactly
    >> > what he is doing. I don't think he's had an "elektric" release since
    >> > the mid-90's.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks to all for the info. NHSNHS was a little before my time; I'm
    >> > not a completist and that one always seemed to slip through the
    >> > cracks. Now I'm motivated to pick it up, though.
    >> >
    >> > A final question: any thoughts on Steve Gadd vs. Roy Haynes as a
    >> > straight-ahead drummer, particularly with Chick? Gadd can be heard on
    >> > "Humpty Dumpty" (from the album "The Mad Hatter"), "Friends," and
    >> > "Three Quartets." I know Gadd isn't considered a jazz legend the same
    >> > way Haynes is, but his playing blows me away on the Chick stuff. I
    >> > can't recall enough about Haynes' playing to have a strong opinion
    >> > about him.

    >>
    >> I can't stand Steve GAdd's Jazz playing. He is very stiff and his drum

    > sound is absolutely
    >> fucking horrible. The fact that he would show up to a Jazz gig with the

    > same commercial
    >> sounding kit that he used with Steely Dan is reprehensible to me. Gadd is

    > a great drummer,
    >> but there are about 500 guys I would rather hear play Jazz. There is no

    > comparison of Gadd to
    >> Roy Haynes. Roy is a legend, Gadd is studio legend, but that means nothing

    > in Jazz.
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Robert Schuh
    >> "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    >> intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    >> the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    >> the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    >> - Nietzsche
    >>
    >> "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
    >>
    >>


    --

    peace,

    Rog

    http://www.slammingrooves.com

    "ooh big comeback from the non fan AKA little drummer boy"

    theRob in alt.sports.hockey.nhl.nj-devils
  15. conso_no

    conso_no Guest

    In article <3F25C061.EF1D1798@robschuh.com>,
    Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote:

    > My musical talent has been rebuffed?


    oh yes. by everyone who's heard you, according to my experience.
    i'heard you play in phoenix and you SUCK. your time is horrible, your
    ideas mundane. in fact, your lack of native musical ability is matched
    only by your extremely childish and obnoxious personality. don't you
    understand why nobody likes you? huh, tough guy? you're just a wimp.
    *I* could, and gladly would, kick your jive fucking ass from here to
    sunday. butch that, bitch.


    > I'll give you $10,000.00 if you can


    you couldn't come up with 10k if your pathetic life depended on it. get
    it thru your head, you punk sissy bitch: NOBODY LIKES YOU. your _momma_
    probably rues the day you entered this world. you irredeemable
    scuzz-bucket. but don't give up hope....the world of sewing is a wide
    and wonderful one, and i'm sure you can find kindred souls there. the
    jazz world is better off with you stuck down in the desert. you
    wouldn't last 2 days in nyc.
  16. One might gather that you don't like or respect Schuh :)

    "conso_no" <peerless@prohost.com> wrote in message
    news:peerless-A7C945.16222429072003@news06.west.earthlink.net...
    > In article <3F25C061.EF1D1798@robschuh.com>,
    > Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote:
    >
    > > My musical talent has been rebuffed?

    >
    > oh yes. by everyone who's heard you, according to my experience.
    > i'heard you play in phoenix and you SUCK. your time is horrible, your
    > ideas mundane. in fact, your lack of native musical ability is matched
    > only by your extremely childish and obnoxious personality. don't you
    > understand why nobody likes you? huh, tough guy? you're just a wimp.
    > *I* could, and gladly would, kick your jive fucking ass from here to
    > sunday. butch that, bitch.
    >
    >
    > > I'll give you $10,000.00 if you can

    >
    > you couldn't come up with 10k if your pathetic life depended on it. get
    > it thru your head, you punk sissy bitch: NOBODY LIKES YOU. your _momma_
    > probably rues the day you entered this world. you irredeemable
    > scuzz-bucket. but don't give up hope....the world of sewing is a wide
    > and wonderful one, and i'm sure you can find kindred souls there. the
    > jazz world is better off with you stuck down in the desert. you
    > wouldn't last 2 days in nyc.
    >
  17. Robert Schuh

    Robert Schuh Guest

    conso_no wrote:

    > In article <3F25C061.EF1D1798@robschuh.com>,
    > Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote:
    >
    > > My musical talent has been rebuffed?

    >
    > oh yes. by everyone who's heard you, according to my experience.
    > i'heard you play in phoenix and you SUCK. your time is horrible, your
    > ideas mundane. in fact, your lack of native musical ability is matched
    > only by your extremely childish and obnoxious personality. don't you
    > understand why nobody likes you? huh, tough guy? you're just a wimp.
    > *I* could, and gladly would, kick your jive fucking ass from here to
    > sunday. butch that, bitch.
    >
    > > I'll give you $10,000.00 if you can

    >
    > you couldn't come up with 10k if your pathetic life depended on it. get
    > it thru your head, you punk sissy bitch: NOBODY LIKES YOU. your _momma_
    > probably rues the day you entered this world. you irredeemable
    > scuzz-bucket. but don't give up hope....the world of sewing is a wide
    > and wonderful one, and i'm sure you can find kindred souls there. the
    > jazz world is better off with you stuck down in the desert. you
    > wouldn't last 2 days in nyc.


    Get a life Skip. You really are a sad Uncle Tom. I wonder how a guy in
    Portland can know so much about me anyway?


    --
    Robert Schuh
    "Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
    intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
    the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
    the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
    - Nietzsche

    "The meek shall inherit nothing" - Zappa
  18. ramalane

    ramalane Guest

    "Da Parrot-chick" <just@sk.me> wrote in message
    news:amFVa.26988$Mc.2102051@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
    :
    : "Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
    : news:3F2712E4.BD54119E@robschuh.com...
    : > conso_no wrote:
    : >
    : > > In article <3F25C061.EF1D1798@robschuh.com>,
    : > > Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote:
    : > >
    : > > > My musical talent has been rebuffed?
    : > >
    : > > oh yes. by everyone who's heard you, according to my experience.
    : > > i'heard you play in phoenix and you SUCK. your time is horrible, your
    : > > ideas mundane. in fact, your lack of native musical ability is
    matched
    : > > only by your extremely childish and obnoxious personality. don't you
    : > > understand why nobody likes you? huh, tough guy? you're just a wimp.
    : > > *I* could, and gladly would, kick your jive fucking ass from here to
    : > > sunday. butch that, bitch.
    : > >
    : > > > I'll give you $10,000.00 if you can
    : > >
    : > > you couldn't come up with 10k if your pathetic life depended on it.
    get
    : > > it thru your head, you punk sissy bitch: NOBODY LIKES YOU. your
    _momma_
    : > > probably rues the day you entered this world. you irredeemable
    : > > scuzz-bucket. but don't give up hope....the world of sewing is a wide
    : > > and wonderful one, and i'm sure you can find kindred souls there. the
    : > > jazz world is better off with you stuck down in the desert. you
    : > > wouldn't last 2 days in nyc.
    : >
    : > Get a life Skip. You really are a sad Uncle Tom. I wonder how a guy in
    : > Portland can know so much about me anyway?
    :
    : I didn't write the above, Schuh, but he's right, you wouldn't last two
    days
    : in NYC. Or Boston. Or LA or Nashville. Or Nacogdoches, Texas.
    :
    : Don't take any of this personally, Schuh. But you ain't shit. Put a skin
    : on that and sell it on eBay.
    :

    ..sig material! Thanks!

    /ramalane
    --
    "Don't take any of this personally, Schuh. But you ain't shit. Put a skin
    on that and sell it on eBay."
  19. Michael Fell

    Michael Fell Guest

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:40:22 GMT, "Da Parrot-chick" <just@sk.me>
    wrote:

    >
    >"Robert Schuh" <rob@robschuh.com> wrote in message
    >news:3F2712E4.BD54119E@robschuh.com...
    >> conso_no wrote:
    >>
    >> > In article <3F25C061.EF1D1798@robschuh.com>,
    >> > Robert Schuh <rob@robschuh.com> wrote:
    >> >
    >> > > My musical talent has been rebuffed?
    >> >
    >> > oh yes. by everyone who's heard you, according to my experience.
    >> > i'heard you play in phoenix and you SUCK. your time is horrible, your
    >> > ideas mundane. in fact, your lack of native musical ability is matched
    >> > only by your extremely childish and obnoxious personality. don't you
    >> > understand why nobody likes you? huh, tough guy? you're just a wimp.
    >> > *I* could, and gladly would, kick your jive fucking ass from here to
    >> > sunday. butch that, bitch.
    >> >
    >> > > I'll give you $10,000.00 if you can
    >> >
    >> > you couldn't come up with 10k if your pathetic life depended on it. get
    >> > it thru your head, you punk sissy bitch: NOBODY LIKES YOU. your _momma_
    >> > probably rues the day you entered this world. you irredeemable
    >> > scuzz-bucket. but don't give up hope....the world of sewing is a wide
    >> > and wonderful one, and i'm sure you can find kindred souls there. the
    >> > jazz world is better off with you stuck down in the desert. you
    >> > wouldn't last 2 days in nyc.

    >>
    >> Get a life Skip. You really are a sad Uncle Tom. I wonder how a guy in
    >> Portland can know so much about me anyway?

    >
    >I didn't write the above, Schuh, but he's right, you wouldn't last two days
    >in NYC. Or Boston. Or LA or Nashville. Or Nacogdoches, Texas.
    >
    >Don't take any of this personally, Schuh. But you ain't shit. Put a skin
    >on that and sell it on eBay.


    Kapow!

    Mike
  20. Zee Dodo

    Zee Dodo Guest

    Michael Fell <mfell2112@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<wjAnP1XvWfRutr7NzM4HrFNApKGC@4ax.com>...
    >
    > Kapow!


    Damn it, Schuh! These guys are killing you! Tell me: why do you
    always have to go looking for it?

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