OS X, Oxygen 8, and Intuem

Discussion in 'comp.music.midi' started by GrapeApe, Jun 11, 2003.

  1. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Guest

    This is my initial time trying to do anything with the audio midi setup in
    Jaguar (its rather hidden) and am trying to trouble shoot why the Oxygen 8
    keyboard controller is not seen.

    I am borrowing the Oxgen 8 from a friend, to see how plug and play it actually
    is, to try it out before I buy ( I have been wary of USB and MIDI support since
    OS 8.6, but apparently things are about to work again in the OS.

    I am using it in USB powered mode. The LED on the Oxygen shows power is being
    received. The mac does not seem to see it

    I am using OS X Jaguar 10.2.1

    I have download the latest drivers from MidiMan M-Audio good with OS 10.1.5 and
    newer

    I find the M-Audio USB support plug in 3.1 in the Midi Drivers folder

    I ran Midi Audio set up... it showed no devices on any ports, but allowed me to
    create one.

    I reinstalled the Intuem Try out, hoping it might see the Oxygen. (it looks for
    a controller or any Midi device on installation.

    I am using the USB port on my keyboard, which is a macAlly iKey, which works as
    well or better than the apple keyboard it replaced that came with my g4.

    I think I might be experiencing some sort of USB voodoo... I may try one of the
    USB ports on the back of the tower, but I doubt it would make any difference.

    I have restarted the mac with the device attached in hopes that the driver
    would be loaded and the oxygen 8 would be seen. I can 'create' a device in Midi
    Setup, but its virtual PLUS I don't know what to route it to... I want it to
    play quicktime instruments.

    I want to use the Oxygen 8 as a controller to play Quicktime Instruments
    (quicktime pro 6.2) into the sequencer Intuem (which is fully functional for
    the next 20-30 days) so I can evaluate them for purchase (glad I tried to see
    if they would work first)

    Am I missing something obvious?

    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
  2. In article <20030611005719.27374.00001258@mb-m03.aol.com>, GrapeApe
    <grapeape@aol.comjunk> wrote:

    > I am borrowing the Oxgen 8 from a friend, to see how plug and play it actually
    > is, to try it out before I buy ( I have been wary of USB and MIDI support
    > since
    > OS 8.6, but apparently things are about to work again in the OS.
    >
    > I am using [Oxygen 8] in USB powered mode. The LED on the Oxygen shows power is being
    > received. The mac does not seem to see it.


    Plug it in.

    > I am using OS X Jaguar 10.2.1
    >
    > I have download the latest drivers from MidiMan M-Audio good with OS 10.1.5
    > and
    > newer
    >
    > I find the M-Audio USB support plug in 3.1 in the Midi Drivers folder
    >
    > I ran Midi Audio set up... it showed no devices on any ports, but allowed me
    > to
    > create one.


    You needn't go further. The Oxy8 should be there. It's not connecting.
    Plug it in.


    > I reinstalled the Intuem Try out, hoping it might see the Oxygen. (it looks
    > for
    > a controller or any Midi device on installation.
    >
    > I am using the USB port on my keyboard, which is a macAlly iKey, which works
    > as
    > well or better than the apple keyboard it replaced that came with my g4.


    Plug it directly into the spare USB port on the Mac, if there is none,
    clear the space. If you're testing this is what you do.

    If that works go buy a powered hub for 20 bucks or whatever

    > I think I might be experiencing some sort of USB voodoo... I may try one of
    > the
    > USB ports on the back of the tower, but I doubt it would make any difference.


    Try it, then you can dismiss it in good conscience.

    > Am I missing something obvious?


    This should work VERY simply. You practically plug it in and you're
    done. I bought one last week and after it not working on an un-powered
    hub, I powered the hub and all works fine.

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  3. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Guest

    I tried my powered hub (which normally has 3 or four items plugged into it
    already, two printers a scanner and a tablet). The inspection window of Intuem,
    the seqencer, seemed to suggest there was some sort of communication going on,
    but no MIDI events were logged (why have a throbbing blue thingie if there
    actually is nothing going on?)

    Perhaps if I do not rely on USB power to the Oxygen. Use batteries and or AC
    adapter with it (which would make it less elegant a solution.

    Perhaps it is the default mode of the Oxygen is wrong, which I would suspect
    would be to send Midi envents from the keyboard and knob.

    Perhaps I need a newer version of Apple Audio Midi Setup, or a newer version of
    Jaguar.

    Thanks, I will try more combinations.
  4. In article <20030612002030.22672.00000472@mb-m21.aol.com>, GrapeApe
    <grapeape@aol.comjunk> wrote:

    > I tried my powered hub (which normally has 3 or four items plugged
    > into it already, two printers a scanner and a tablet). The inspection
    > window of Intuem, the seqencer, seemed to suggest there was some sort
    > of communication going on, but no MIDI events were logged (why have a
    > throbbing blue thingie if there actually is nothing going on?)


    Seems I had to reboot the machine, despite the throbbing to make the
    thing actually recognize/understand that the oxy8 was on operational.
    I'm unsure. I know I've gotten into some kind of wire-pulling trap
    during installation of oxy8, logic and/or making Vision and BIAB work
    on the OS9.22 side that demanded a bona-fide reboot. Relaunching finder
    wouldn't work.

    I know this little oddity. If you switch to the classic, make use of
    an OMS-related program, then switch back to OSX you must shut down the
    Classic side before OSX will recognize any USB devices related to midi.

    > Perhaps if I do not rely on USB power to the Oxygen. Use batteries
    > and or AC adapter with it (which would make it less elegant a
    > solution.


    That's what I meant when I said plug it in. Plug in the AC. The
    instructions in the manual actually say that it must be plugged in, and
    that it must be plugged *directly* into the machine's usb port. That
    seemed a bit much, but sure enough it demanded AC. I have it in the
    hub though. Test it all ways.

    > Perhaps it is the default mode of the Oxygen is wrong, which I would
    > suspect would be to send Midi envents from the keyboard and knob.


    I sincerely doubt that. Since there are known demands of the
    usb-powering and direct usb port required, I believe that's where your
    problems lie.

    > Perhaps I need a newer version of Apple Audio Midi Setup, or a newer
    > version of Jaguar.


    That's certainly a possibility. Though I think with 10.2.1 you're a
    close as you need to be.

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  5. Randall Hyde

    Randall Hyde Guest

    I have a quick question about the Oxy8 unit --

    It is possible to program this thing in stand-alone mode
    to send a certain program change command when I press "C"
    and send a different program change command when I press "D".

    I bought the unit thinking I've have a bunch of programmable buttons
    to control a couple of boxes in my effects rack during a performance.
    Thus far, I've been able to control one of these boxes by manually
    typing in the program change number, but that's obviously unacceptable
    during a performance. Did I make an incorrect purchase here? Or am
    I simply missing something?
    Cheers,
    Randy Hyde
  6. In article <bcjg0u$4n7$1@news.chatlink.com>, Randall Hyde
    <aoax86@earthlink.net> wrote:

    > I have a quick question about the Oxy8 unit --
    >
    > It is possible to program this thing in stand-alone mode
    > to send a certain program change command when I press "C"
    > and send a different program change command when I press "D".
    >
    > I bought the unit thinking I've have a bunch of programmable buttons
    > to control a couple of boxes in my effects rack during a performance.
    > Thus far, I've been able to control one of these boxes by manually
    > typing in the program change number, but that's obviously unacceptable
    > during a performance. Did I make an incorrect purchase here? Or am
    > I simply missing something?


    Thought I'd chime in since I've been support crew for the oxy8. I
    don't know, as I just got mine and have barely had a chance to use it
    much less plumb the vast regions of the manual. Have you read the
    manual?

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