OT: How do you crack into a PS/2 Case?

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by Analogeezer, Aug 18, 2003.

  1. Analogeezer

    Analogeezer Guest

    Not an IBM, a Sony....

    My kid's PS/2 is acting weird (discs that play on other PS/2's yield a
    "Disk Error" message on ours, but not all discs and not all the time),
    but I know it's got a ton of funk/dirt in it.

    I'd at least like to clean the thing out, maybe clean the lens
    assembly, but it appears to have no means to access it (as in exposed
    screw holes).

    Anybody ever fixed one of these things?

    Thanks for advice, as somebody who does minor maintenace/fixes on my
    own gear, I'd hate to not at least give this a whack.

    Analogeezer
  2. Troy

    Troy Guest

    Re: How do you crack into a PS/2 Case?

    I have heard of this before.It may not have anything to do with dirt.You may
    need to send it in for replacement as the drive may be bad.I hear this is
    quit a common problem.Try a PS2 newsgroup as I am no expert on these
    games,just going by something I read a while back.


    Good Luck



    Analogeezer <analogeezer@aerosolkings.com> wrote in message
    news:bfb37ea9.0308181354.7072e684@posting.google.com...
    > Not an IBM, a Sony....
    >
    > My kid's PS/2 is acting weird (discs that play on other PS/2's yield a
    > "Disk Error" message on ours, but not all discs and not all the time),
    > but I know it's got a ton of funk/dirt in it.
    >
    > I'd at least like to clean the thing out, maybe clean the lens
    > assembly, but it appears to have no means to access it (as in exposed
    > screw holes).
    >
    > Anybody ever fixed one of these things?
    >
    > Thanks for advice, as somebody who does minor maintenace/fixes on my
    > own gear, I'd hate to not at least give this a whack.
    >
    > Analogeezer
  3. knud

    knud Guest

    Re: How do you crack into a PS/2 Case?

    Good luck. The PS2 was built to be non-serviceable and disposable. There is
    very little you can fix without just replacing it altogether.


    blahblah
  4. Mike Rivers

    Mike Rivers Guest

    In article <bfb37ea9.0308181354.7072e684@posting.google.com> analogeezer@aerosolkings.com writes:

    > I'd at least like to clean the thing out, maybe clean the lens
    > assembly, but it appears to have no means to access it (as in exposed
    > screw holes).
    >
    > Anybody ever fixed one of these things?


    It's been years, but I recall that this was the computer that you
    didn't need any tools to open up. Just look for things to pull and
    you'll get it open.


    --
    I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
  5. Les Cargill

    Les Cargill Guest

    Mike Rivers wrote:
    >
    > In article <bfb37ea9.0308181354.7072e684@posting.google.com> analogeezer@aerosolkings.com writes:
    >
    > > I'd at least like to clean the thing out, maybe clean the lens
    > > assembly, but it appears to have no means to access it (as in exposed
    > > screw holes).
    > >
    > > Anybody ever fixed one of these things?

    >
    > It's been years, but I recall that this was the computer that you
    > didn't need any tools to open up. Just look for things to pull and
    > you'll get it open.
    >
    > --
    > I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)


    PS/2 no longer means IBM PS/2. It means PlayStation 2.

    --
    Les Cargill
  6. Arny Krueger

    Arny Krueger Guest

    Re: How do you crack into a PS/2 Case?

    "Analogeezer" <analogeezer@aerosolkings.com> wrote in message
    news:bfb37ea9.0308181354.7072e684@posting.google.com
    > Not an IBM, a Sony....
    >
    > My kid's PS/2 is acting weird (discs that play on other PS/2's yield a
    > "Disk Error" message on ours, but not all discs and not all the time),
    > but I know it's got a ton of funk/dirt in it.
    >
    > I'd at least like to clean the thing out, maybe clean the lens
    > assembly, but it appears to have no means to access it (as in exposed
    > screw holes).
    >
    > Anybody ever fixed one of these things?
    >
    > Thanks for advice, as somebody who does minor maintenace/fixes on my
    > own gear, I'd hate to not at least give this a whack.



    Please see:

    http://www.ultimateconsoleguides.com/Installation.htm
  7. Rob Reedijk

    Rob Reedijk Guest

    Les Cargill <lcargill@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
    > Mike Rivers wrote:
    >>
    >> In article <bfb37ea9.0308181354.7072e684@posting.google.com> analogeezer@aerosolkings.com writes:
    >>
    >> > Anybody ever fixed one of these things?

    >>
    >> It's been years, but I recall that this was the computer that you
    >> didn't need any tools to open up. Just look for things to pull and
    >> you'll get it open.


    > PS/2 no longer means IBM PS/2. It means PlayStation 2.


    And it uses that new-fangled, high-falutin' 'lectricity, dagnabbit.

    Rob R.
    ('lectricity slicker)
  8. Ben Bradley

    Ben Bradley Guest

    In rec.audio.pro, Les Cargill <lcargill@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

    >Mike Rivers wrote:
    >>
    >> In article <bfb37ea9.0308181354.7072e684@posting.google.com> analogeezer@aerosolkings.com writes:
    >>
    >> > I'd at least like to clean the thing out, maybe clean the lens
    >> > assembly, but it appears to have no means to access it (as in exposed
    >> > screw holes).


    Look under stickers/labels for screwholes and screws. If I don't
    find such, I then go for prying with screwdrivers, knowing it may not
    go back together. If it doesn't work and is out of warranty you have
    nothing to lose.

    >> > Anybody ever fixed one of these things?

    >>
    >> It's been years, but I recall that this was the computer that you
    >> didn't need any tools to open up. Just look for things to pull and
    >> you'll get it open.
    >>
    >> --
    >> I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)

    >
    >PS/2 no longer means IBM PS/2. It means PlayStation 2.


    I almost made that mistake too, trying to think which PS/2 model
    wasn't modular. The one someone might ask "how do you open it up"
    would have been the all-in-one PS/1 model, with the same heritage as
    the PCjr.

    >--
    >Les Cargill
  9. Analogeezer

    Analogeezer Guest

    mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers) wrote in message news:<znr1061253315k@trad>...
    > In article <bfb37ea9.0308181354.7072e684@posting.google.com> analogeezer@aerosolkings.com writes:
    >
    > > I'd at least like to clean the thing out, maybe clean the lens
    > > assembly, but it appears to have no means to access it (as in exposed
    > > screw holes).
    > >
    > > Anybody ever fixed one of these things?

    >
    > It's been years, but I recall that this was the computer that you
    > didn't need any tools to open up. Just look for things to pull and
    > you'll get it open.


    Yeah I had figured that but then again it's always nice to know the
    "secret handshake" to get into things.

    Kind of like the other day when I went to replace a car horn that was
    buried underneath the bumper cover.

    You had to pull out headlight to get to the horn, BUT

    You had to pull out the grill to get the right side of the headlight
    loose, BUT

    You had to pull out the turn signal/marker light to get the left side
    of the headlight loose.

    The Turn signal/marker light was the one with the "secret hidden
    screw"

    I'd ask on a PS2 user group but those people are probably all about
    playing the games, when the unit breaks they just go out an buy an
    XBox or something.

    Ironically I was getting ready to sell our old PS1 on Ebay since we
    don't use it that much anymore, and then the PS2 breaks. Obviously you
    can't play the PS2 games on the PS1.

    Oh well, next week school starts and the little guy shouldn't have
    time to play video games....he was in various activities until
    recently but is now in "I'm bored" mode.

    Analogeezer
  10. Arny Krueger

    Arny Krueger Guest

    "Analogeezer" <analogeezer@aerosolkings.com> wrote in message
    news:bfb37ea9.0308190759.437e8565@posting.google.com...

    >
    > I'd ask on a PS2 user group but those people are probably all about
    > playing the games, when the unit breaks they just go out an buy an
    > XBox or something.


    Please see:

    http://www.ultimateconsoleguides.com/Installation.htm
  11. Cossie

    Cossie Guest

    Re: How do you crack into a PS/2 Case?

    "Analogeezer" <analogeezer@aerosolkings.com> wrote in message
    news:bfb37ea9.0308181354.7072e684@posting.google.com...
    > Not an IBM, a Sony....
    >
    > My kid's PS/2 is acting weird (discs that play on other PS/2's yield a
    > "Disk Error" message on ours, but not all discs and not all the time),
    > but I know it's got a ton of funk/dirt in it.
    >
    > I'd at least like to clean the thing out, maybe clean the lens
    > assembly, but it appears to have no means to access it (as in exposed
    > screw holes).
    >
    > Anybody ever fixed one of these things?
    >


    As a matter of fact I have. But before you try it, talk to Sony. Not to
    get advice on opening it up - they probably won't like that, but to see if
    they'll fix it for you. Mine was well out of warranty when it started doing
    the same thing. They re-habbed it once, then a year later (well, WELL out
    of warranty!) it started it again and they sent me a replacement console.
    So it's worth your while to see how benevolent they're feeling. Chance are,
    if you tell them you're planning on buying lots of games in the future,
    they'll bend over backwards.

    If that fails:

    Flip it over on a table top. You'll see the four square rubber feet and
    several other square plastic bits the same size around the perimeter. All
    of these pry out. I'm told that the number of them changed over time. Mine
    had the 4 feet plus 7 plastic plugs. Recessed beneath all of these are
    philips head screws. When you remove them, be sure to note which holes they
    came out of because some are longer than others and you don't want to punch
    a hole in the circuit board when you re-install them.

    Once you have all of the screws out you'll have to peel off a piece of tape
    on the rear panel. It's black, and of the type that says something like
    "warranty void" as soon as you unstick it from the console. :)

    Now the only thing in your way is the power switch and the wires running to
    it. The easiest way to get around this is to push the power switch assembly
    back through the case, and now the case should come right off.

    You should be able to clean out a lot of dust at this point. You can also
    use some alcohol and a q-tip to clean off the lens.

    Good luck!

    Bill Balmer
  12. Mike Rivers

    Mike Rivers Guest

    In article <3F420F75.4C342EE2@worldnet.att.net> lcargill@worldnet.att.net writes:

    > PS/2 no longer means IBM PS/2. It means PlayStation 2.


    Oh. Sorry, wrong newsgroup. Unless the PlayStation2 has some audio
    signal processing or DAW capabilities.




    --
    I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
  13. Ben Bradley

    Ben Bradley Guest

    In rec.audio.pro, mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers) wrote:

    >
    >In article <3F420F75.4C342EE2@worldnet.att.net> lcargill@worldnet.att.net writes:
    >
    >> PS/2 no longer means IBM PS/2. It means PlayStation 2.

    >
    >Oh. Sorry, wrong newsgroup. Unless the PlayStation2 has some audio
    >signal processing or DAW capabilities.


    Did IBM's PS/2 have any such capabilities? ;)

    >
    >
    >
    >
    >--
    >I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
  14. Mike Rivers

    Mike Rivers Guest

    In article <3f42b2c2.34285404@newsgroups.bellsouth.net> ben_nospam_bradley@mindspring.com writes:

    > >Oh. Sorry, wrong newsgroup. Unless the PlayStation2 has some audio
    > >signal processing or DAW capabilities.

    >
    > Did IBM's PS/2 have any such capabilities? ;)


    Only if you could figure out how to open the case and install a sound
    card. There was audio before there was Windows.



    --
    I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
  15. Les Cargill

    Les Cargill Guest

    Mike Rivers wrote:
    >
    > In article <3F420F75.4C342EE2@worldnet.att.net> lcargill@worldnet.att.net writes:
    >
    > > PS/2 no longer means IBM PS/2. It means PlayStation 2.

    >
    > Oh. Sorry, wrong newsgroup. Unless the PlayStation2 has some audio
    > signal processing or DAW capabilities.
    >


    I dunno how it ended up here, either. :) A PS/2 is actually a computer,
    such as it is, although turning one into a DAW seems goofy.

    > --
    > I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)



    --
    Les Cargill
  16. Analogeezer

    Analogeezer Guest

    Re: How do you crack into a PS/2 Case?

    "Cossie" <billbalmer@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<gCt0b.105925$0v4.7446351@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
    > "Analogeezer" <analogeezer@aerosolkings.com> wrote in message
    > news:bfb37ea9.0308181354.7072e684@posting.google.com...
    > > Not an IBM, a Sony....
    > >
    > > My kid's PS/2 is acting weird (discs that play on other PS/2's yield a
    > > "Disk Error" message on ours, but not all discs and not all the time),
    > > but I know it's got a ton of funk/dirt in it.
    > >
    > > I'd at least like to clean the thing out, maybe clean the lens
    > > assembly, but it appears to have no means to access it (as in exposed
    > > screw holes).
    > >
    > > Anybody ever fixed one of these things?
    > >

    >
    > As a matter of fact I have. But before you try it, talk to Sony. Not to
    > get advice on opening it up - they probably won't like that, but to see if
    > they'll fix it for you. Mine was well out of warranty when it started doing
    > the same thing. They re-habbed it once, then a year later (well, WELL out
    > of warranty!) it started it again and they sent me a replacement console.
    > So it's worth your while to see how benevolent they're feeling. Chance are,
    > if you tell them you're planning on buying lots of games in the future,
    > they'll bend over backwards.
    >
    > If that fails:
    >
    > Flip it over on a table top. You'll see the four square rubber feet and
    > several other square plastic bits the same size around the perimeter. All
    > of these pry out. I'm told that the number of them changed over time. Mine
    > had the 4 feet plus 7 plastic plugs. Recessed beneath all of these are
    > philips head screws. When you remove them, be sure to note which holes they
    > came out of because some are longer than others and you don't want to punch
    > a hole in the circuit board when you re-install them.
    >
    > Once you have all of the screws out you'll have to peel off a piece of tape
    > on the rear panel. It's black, and of the type that says something like
    > "warranty void" as soon as you unstick it from the console. :)
    >
    > Now the only thing in your way is the power switch and the wires running to
    > it. The easiest way to get around this is to push the power switch assembly
    > back through the case, and now the case should come right off.
    >
    > You should be able to clean out a lot of dust at this point. You can also
    > use some alcohol and a q-tip to clean off the lens.
    >
    > Good luck!
    >
    > Bill Balmer


    Thanks a lot!

    I had read at some other places that Sony commonly fixes them for
    free, even out of warranty but if you crack it open you are SOL, so to
    check with them first.

    I'll call them up and check first, but failing that I'll give a
    general cleaning out a try...the thing does have ton of dust in it,
    and the problem is intermittent except with Gran Turismo 3, that one
    never works.

    One guy did mention that he pulled a furball out of his and then it
    worked fine.

    Analogeezer
  17. Bryson

    Bryson Guest

    Re: How do you crack into a PS/2 Case?

    Tell the kid to go outside and play,for a change.


    analogeezer@aerosolkings.com (Analogeezer) wrote in message news:<bfb37ea9.0308200716.345c60a8@posting.google.com>...
    > "Cossie" <billbalmer@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<gCt0b.105925$0v4.7446351@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
    > > "Analogeezer" <analogeezer@aerosolkings.com> wrote in message
    > > news:bfb37ea9.0308181354.7072e684@posting.google.com...
    > > > Not an IBM, a Sony....
    > > >
    > > > My kid's PS/2 is acting weird (discs that play on other PS/2's yield a
    > > > "Disk Error" message on ours, but not all discs and not all the time),
    > > > but I know it's got a ton of funk/dirt in it.
    > > >
    > > > I'd at least like to clean the thing out, maybe clean the lens
    > > > assembly, but it appears to have no means to access it (as in exposed
    > > > screw holes).
    > > >
    > > > Anybody ever fixed one of these things?
    > > >

    > >
    > > As a matter of fact I have. But before you try it, talk to Sony. Not to
    > > get advice on opening it up - they probably won't like that, but to see if
    > > they'll fix it for you. Mine was well out of warranty when it started doing
    > > the same thing. They re-habbed it once, then a year later (well, WELL out
    > > of warranty!) it started it again and they sent me a replacement console.
    > > So it's worth your while to see how benevolent they're feeling. Chance are,
    > > if you tell them you're planning on buying lots of games in the future,
    > > they'll bend over backwards.
    > >
    > > If that fails:
    > >
    > > Flip it over on a table top. You'll see the four square rubber feet and
    > > several other square plastic bits the same size around the perimeter. All
    > > of these pry out. I'm told that the number of them changed over time. Mine
    > > had the 4 feet plus 7 plastic plugs. Recessed beneath all of these are
    > > philips head screws. When you remove them, be sure to note which holes they
    > > came out of because some are longer than others and you don't want to punch
    > > a hole in the circuit board when you re-install them.
    > >
    > > Once you have all of the screws out you'll have to peel off a piece of tape
    > > on the rear panel. It's black, and of the type that says something like
    > > "warranty void" as soon as you unstick it from the console. :)
    > >
    > > Now the only thing in your way is the power switch and the wires running to
    > > it. The easiest way to get around this is to push the power switch assembly
    > > back through the case, and now the case should come right off.
    > >
    > > You should be able to clean out a lot of dust at this point. You can also
    > > use some alcohol and a q-tip to clean off the lens.
    > >
    > > Good luck!
    > >
    > > Bill Balmer

    >
    > Thanks a lot!
    >
    > I had read at some other places that Sony commonly fixes them for
    > free, even out of warranty but if you crack it open you are SOL, so to
    > check with them first.
    >
    > I'll call them up and check first, but failing that I'll give a
    > general cleaning out a try...the thing does have ton of dust in it,
    > and the problem is intermittent except with Gran Turismo 3, that one
    > never works.
    >
    > One guy did mention that he pulled a furball out of his and then it
    > worked fine.
    >
    > Analogeezer
  18. Analogeezer

    Analogeezer Guest

    Re: How do you crack into a PS/2 Case?

    high_mu@my-deja.com (Bryson) wrote in message news:<d00684b1.0308201623.4d527ab2@posting.google.com>...
    > Tell the kid to go outside and play,for a change.
    >

    He does, he spent most of the summer outside in a summer camp (Science
    Camp actually) with lots of activity.

    At the moment around here it's 90/90 (90 degrees/90% humidity) so give
    the little guy a break...

    Also the days of just sending your kid outside to play by himself are
    long, long gone.

    Analogeezer
  19. Mike Rivers

    Mike Rivers Guest

    Re: How do you crack into a PS/2 Case?

    In article <bfb37ea9.0308210452.4581b81f@posting.google.com> analogeezer@aerosolkings.com writes:

    > Also the days of just sending your kid outside to play by himself are
    > long, long gone.


    Got a good shade tree? Get him a gasoline generator so he can take the
    TV set and Playstation outside. Get a fan, too. And you can use the
    generator next time the power goes out.


    --
    I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
  20. Analogeezer

    Analogeezer Guest

    Re: How do you crack into a PS/2 Case?

    mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers) wrote in message news:<znr1061475875k@trad>...
    > In article <bfb37ea9.0308210452.4581b81f@posting.google.com> analogeezer@aerosolkings.com writes:
    >
    > > Also the days of just sending your kid outside to play by himself are
    > > long, long gone.

    >
    > Got a good shade tree? Get him a gasoline generator so he can take the
    > TV set and Playstation outside. Get a fan, too. And you can use the
    > generator next time the power goes out.



    Uhhh don't have children Mike?

    Too many weirdos and perverts around to let your kids play outside by
    themselves. There is some safety in numbers but there are not any
    other young children on my block so he'd be by himself.

    My neighborhood is relatively safe but I still see the occasional
    toothless Cleetus driving around the cul-de-sac in his rusted out
    pickup truck.

    Actually the kid wanted to play Grand Turismo 3 because I had taken
    him to the SCCA races at Summit Point the weekend before.

    It's not like I can just buy him a Formula Atlantic racecar and just
    turn him loose.

    Analogeezer

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