OT (somewhat): Is PayPal a viable payment option for a custom bass drum head business?

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by f-mo., Aug 20, 2003.

  1. f-mo.

    f-mo. Guest

    Hi all,

    So, a few weeks ago, I posted a reply to a thread about custom bass drum
    logos. I explained that I'm starting a business to do these at the highest
    quality and at the most competitive prices out there -- prices that will
    allow the decision to buy one become pretty easy for just about any
    freelance drummer or drummer in a band.

    Anyway, the site's just about ready to go -- check it out at
    http://www.drumart.com and let me know what you think. We're just a few
    days from going live.

    But my question to all of you is this:

    In your *opinion*, is PayPal a viable payment processing system for a
    business like this?

    Our main goal is to make these heads really, truly affordable. Our margins
    on them are very small, so every little bit helps. We're considering
    implementing a different payment processing scheme that will allow users to
    simply enter their credit card information directly (as opposed to PayPal
    where you have to be a *member* first), but this will add a bit of overhead
    to the cost of doing business. I hope I'm explaining this well enough.

    Is it worth having a more streamlined purchasing process at a higher price
    ($5-$10 more per head), or is it better to keep the price as low as possible
    with a more "alternative" (and maybe more difficult) payment process?

    Either way, quality WILL NOT be sacrificed -- the heads you get will be
    great no matter how you pay for them.

    Any comments here would be greatly appreciated, or feel free to e-mail me
    directly at jim@drumart.com.

    Thanks for any feedback, and look for www.drumart.com VERY soon!!!

    --Jim.
    www.drumart.com
    jim@drumart.com
  2. Paypal will work just fine for a small business. I set up a wine and ceramic
    internet company and it runs on Paypal. It's simple to setup and Paypal has
    complete details about doing so on it's website.
    "f-mo." <jim@drumart.com> wrote in message
    news:HDqdnd7YaKDJN96iXTWJiw@giganews.com...
    > Hi all,
    >
    > So, a few weeks ago, I posted a reply to a thread about custom bass drum
    > logos. I explained that I'm starting a business to do these at the

    highest
    > quality and at the most competitive prices out there -- prices that will
    > allow the decision to buy one become pretty easy for just about any
    > freelance drummer or drummer in a band.
    >
    > Anyway, the site's just about ready to go -- check it out at
    > http://www.drumart.com and let me know what you think. We're just a few
    > days from going live.
    >
    > But my question to all of you is this:
    >
    > In your *opinion*, is PayPal a viable payment processing system for a
    > business like this?
    >
    > Our main goal is to make these heads really, truly affordable. Our

    margins
    > on them are very small, so every little bit helps. We're considering
    > implementing a different payment processing scheme that will allow users

    to
    > simply enter their credit card information directly (as opposed to PayPal
    > where you have to be a *member* first), but this will add a bit of

    overhead
    > to the cost of doing business. I hope I'm explaining this well enough.
    >
    > Is it worth having a more streamlined purchasing process at a higher price
    > ($5-$10 more per head), or is it better to keep the price as low as

    possible
    > with a more "alternative" (and maybe more difficult) payment process?
    >
    > Either way, quality WILL NOT be sacrificed -- the heads you get will be
    > great no matter how you pay for them.
    >
    > Any comments here would be greatly appreciated, or feel free to e-mail me
    > directly at jim@drumart.com.
    >
    > Thanks for any feedback, and look for www.drumart.com VERY soon!!!
    >
    > --Jim.
    > www.drumart.com
    > jim@drumart.com
    >
    >
  3. f-mo.

    f-mo. Guest

    "Randal Walker" <randysdrums@cox.net> wrote in message
    news:ZhO0b.3265$n94.1154@fed1read04...
    > Paypal will work just fine for a small business. I set up a wine and

    ceramic
    > internet company and it runs on Paypal. It's simple to setup and Paypal

    has
    > complete details about doing so on it's website.


    Hello and thanks for your reply.

    Actually, I've already got it set up, and you're right -- it was very easy
    to do. What I'm really wondering is, from a customer standpoint, is it more
    trouble (or more confusing) than it's worth? Have you had any experiences
    where you've lost customers because they haven't wanted to deal with (or
    were confused by) the whole PayPal setup process?

    Thanks again for the reply.

    --Jim.
  4. no problems, it's no more difficult using Paypal than using a regular secure
    server at least from the customers point. Many people and small business are
    using the Paypal method and having success with it.
    "f-mo." <jim@drumart.com> wrote in message
    news:pZadnQ9-HKO-L96iU-KYgw@giganews.com...
    > "Randal Walker" <randysdrums@cox.net> wrote in message
    > news:ZhO0b.3265$n94.1154@fed1read04...
    > > Paypal will work just fine for a small business. I set up a wine and

    > ceramic
    > > internet company and it runs on Paypal. It's simple to setup and Paypal

    > has
    > > complete details about doing so on it's website.

    >
    > Hello and thanks for your reply.
    >
    > Actually, I've already got it set up, and you're right -- it was very easy
    > to do. What I'm really wondering is, from a customer standpoint, is it

    more
    > trouble (or more confusing) than it's worth? Have you had any experiences
    > where you've lost customers because they haven't wanted to deal with (or
    > were confused by) the whole PayPal setup process?
    >
    > Thanks again for the reply.
    >
    > --Jim.
    >
    >
  5. -sTu-

    -sTu- Guest

    I believe that PayPal has a shopping cart or something that will allow
    non-paypal customers to just use a credit card. Look at the different
    options pay pal offers.

    --
    -sTu-

    ....and I'll never go to Sacramento again.
    - Nick (Soulbelly) of RMMP

    "f-mo." <jim@drumart.com> wrote in message
    news:pZadnQ9-HKO-L96iU-KYgw@giganews.com...
    > "Randal Walker" <randysdrums@cox.net> wrote in message
    > news:ZhO0b.3265$n94.1154@fed1read04...
    > > Paypal will work just fine for a small business. I set up a wine and

    > ceramic
    > > internet company and it runs on Paypal. It's simple to setup and Paypal

    > has
    > > complete details about doing so on it's website.

    >
    > Hello and thanks for your reply.
    >
    > Actually, I've already got it set up, and you're right -- it was very easy
    > to do. What I'm really wondering is, from a customer standpoint, is it

    more
    > trouble (or more confusing) than it's worth? Have you had any experiences
    > where you've lost customers because they haven't wanted to deal with (or
    > were confused by) the whole PayPal setup process?
    >
    > Thanks again for the reply.
    >
    > --Jim.
    >
    >
  6. It indeed does. I used the shopping cart option for the Wine company.
    "-sTu-" <kthalstu@covad.net> wrote in message
    news:bi0ffh$40npv$1@ID-180781.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > I believe that PayPal has a shopping cart or something that will allow
    > non-paypal customers to just use a credit card. Look at the different
    > options pay pal offers.
    >
    > --
    > -sTu-
    >
    > ...and I'll never go to Sacramento again.
    > - Nick (Soulbelly) of RMMP
    >
    > "f-mo." <jim@drumart.com> wrote in message
    > news:pZadnQ9-HKO-L96iU-KYgw@giganews.com...
    > > "Randal Walker" <randysdrums@cox.net> wrote in message
    > > news:ZhO0b.3265$n94.1154@fed1read04...
    > > > Paypal will work just fine for a small business. I set up a wine and

    > > ceramic
    > > > internet company and it runs on Paypal. It's simple to setup and

    Paypal
    > > has
    > > > complete details about doing so on it's website.

    > >
    > > Hello and thanks for your reply.
    > >
    > > Actually, I've already got it set up, and you're right -- it was very

    easy
    > > to do. What I'm really wondering is, from a customer standpoint, is it

    > more
    > > trouble (or more confusing) than it's worth? Have you had any

    experiences
    > > where you've lost customers because they haven't wanted to deal with (or
    > > were confused by) the whole PayPal setup process?
    > >
    > > Thanks again for the reply.
    > >
    > > --Jim.
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  7. f-mo.

    f-mo. Guest

    "Randal Walker" <randysdrums@cox.net> wrote in message
    news:cvP0b.3281$n94.985@fed1read04...
    > It indeed does. I used the shopping cart option for the Wine company.
    > "-sTu-" <kthalstu@covad.net> wrote in message
    > news:bi0ffh$40npv$1@ID-180781.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > > I believe that PayPal has a shopping cart or something that will allow
    > > non-paypal customers to just use a credit card. Look at the different
    > > options pay pal offers.


    Yeah, but unfortunately as part of the checkout process, customers *must*
    become PayPal members. I'm just concerned that people will be put off that
    in order to buy something I'm selling, they *also* have to join this other
    Website. That's as opposed to just entering CC info and being done with the
    transaction...

    Do you guys not really see that as an issue?

    --Jim.
  8. I don't
    "f-mo." <jim@drumart.com> wrote in message
    news:qx-cnde8FpcCTN6iXTWJkA@giganews.com...
    >
    > "Randal Walker" <randysdrums@cox.net> wrote in message
    > news:cvP0b.3281$n94.985@fed1read04...
    > > It indeed does. I used the shopping cart option for the Wine company.
    > > "-sTu-" <kthalstu@covad.net> wrote in message
    > > news:bi0ffh$40npv$1@ID-180781.news.uni-berlin.de...
    > > > I believe that PayPal has a shopping cart or something that will allow
    > > > non-paypal customers to just use a credit card. Look at the different
    > > > options pay pal offers.

    >
    > Yeah, but unfortunately as part of the checkout process, customers *must*
    > become PayPal members. I'm just concerned that people will be put off

    that
    > in order to buy something I'm selling, they *also* have to join this other
    > Website. That's as opposed to just entering CC info and being done with

    the
    > transaction...
    >
    > Do you guys not really see that as an issue?
    >
    > --Jim.
    >
    >
  9. f-mo.

    f-mo. Guest

    "Chris Ely" <chris@the-few.NOSPAMorg> wrote in message
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    -- snip --
    > Absolutely killer site.
    > One of the best looking, simple, informative, and effective web site
    > designs I have seen in a long time.
    >
    > Oh, and so many people already are members of Paypal due to Ebay, that
    > it shouldn't be a big deal. And for those who are not members, joining
    > Paypal is not this weird niche thing that they are going to do and only
    > be able to use at your site, and join a different service for every
    > other site they visit. Paypal is a standard, in a way. It has been
    > established.
    >
    > -C.J.


    Wow, C.J. thanks so much for the feedback. I was going for simple and easy
    to navigate (hence my concern about PayPal making things confusing), so it's
    great to get that kind of feedback!

    So, can I use your comments on our Testimonials page? ;)

    --Jim.

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