Premium MB Membership

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  1. tavenger5

    tavenger5 Mr Admin Guy Staff Member Admin

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    Plans are in the making for a Premium MIDIBuddy Membership. When all is setup and running the plan will come with the following:
    • MIDIBuddy e-mail (yourname@midibuddy.net or degster.com)
    • 10mb of web space
    • Your own photo gallery
    • 5,000 MB cash a month!
    • Gift certs. to HitTrax (possible)
    • Certs. to MIDIRingTones (possible)
    • Premium member icon
    • Move/delete own threads
    • Images in signatures
    • Custom avatars immediately
    • No approval of files in new file forum
    • Special forums for premium members

    Plus more!

    The pricing for premium membership will be something like this:

    1 year: $38
    6 months: $20
    Month: $4

    Questions, comments, suggestions?
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  2. KingXII

    KingXII S MOD

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    :jawdrop: typo......
    :: fixes typo ::
  3. tavenger5

    tavenger5 Mr Admin Guy Staff Member Admin

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    Anyone care to comment??
  4. jeaniesing

    jeaniesing Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod

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    Comments? Okay......

    As much as I enjoy what you've done here John - I can't say that "Premium Membership" appeals to me..... Reality is, I HAVE 10MB of space elsewhere, I HAVE Photo gallery elsewhere, both free... And I think most net-savvy folks do.... the rest of the stuff on the list has very limited appeal to me, and therefore (I'm guessing) to many others....

    Frankly - if you want my money I'll send something annually, As I've said before, I get more enjoyment here than my pledge to PBS gives me... but I'm an Old Fart with a good job and a rich husband.... Would YOU have done this 5-10 years ago when you started sequencing? Will 'we' be chasing away young and talented folks?

    disclaimer: Not everything here is necessarily my staunch opinion... I'm playing devil's advocate to some degree in an effort to collect knowledge......
  5. Pol

    Pol Stuck on the M1 <img src="images/smilies/shakehead Staff Member Super Mod

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    Hello John,
    First of all i'd llike to say that you've done a fantastic job here...i thoroughly enjoy interacting with the other members and have also found some nice backing tracks to use. As far as Premium Membership goes, i think the price is very reasonable and i'm sure you'll have some takers but some of the things on the list wouldn't attract me personally...such as $5000 a month, deleting threads, images, icons and i agree with Jeanie in that most people with the knowledge or inclination to develope a website will have their own webspace (my own ISP gives me10 Mb free).

    On the other hand, i think you should look further into the gift certs for HitTrax and the ringtones as they would appeal to a lot of people. The custom email may also appeal to some. I'm in my mid thirties though and my opinion may differ from a lot of the younger members but good luck with the plan and i hope everything works out for you mate !

    Paul.
  6. tavenger5

    tavenger5 Mr Admin Guy Staff Member Admin

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    Okay, everything is tentative and subject to change. This is why I want some feeback :). Everything listed is what was in my head at the time.

    Would 50 or even 75 megs of space be more reasonable?

    Remember that degster.com is the exact same as midibuddy.net. Lets be honest, degster.com is a much more general URL and may appeal to more people.

    The prices are more then likely going to change. I'll probably also run some introductory offers. If everything goes as planned it should be in place by aug. (custom scripting)

    I intended the gift certs to be purchasable in the feature store (would only apply to premium members and super mods, admins) This is where that $5000 could be useful. Obviously the certs would be the higher priced items. :)

    Paul, Jeanie... what features would attract you the most? What features do you think could be added to the list?

    Thanks for your feedback :thumbsup:
  7. Ralph'e'

    Ralph'e' www.ralphe.tk

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    sounds good..

    except.. 5000MBa month??? kinda takes the fun out of "saving MB" dont u think???

    dont like that idea at all.. ne1 agree?
  8. Nyxan

    Nyxan It wont hurt for long Staff Member Moderator

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    I don't know if it will work. Most are her for the fun and games not to buy memberships. Leave that to the pay sites.
    I like this board just the way it is
    If it aint broke why fix it
  9. jeaniesing

    jeaniesing Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod

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    I can see that we would be your target audience on this one.....

    1. Gimme the larger amount of space (for MP3's of work), and gimme a really easy Web Address like http://jeaniesing.midibuddy.net and I'd be IN :)!! 'Twould save the trouble of hosting my own site I think :)...... Now the problem: What if I want to store my copies of hittrax duplicate MIDIs in that space? I'll argue it from both sides... If I'm paying for it I don't want my content limited beyond that of polite society (no naked turnip pics!) - on the other side, if you make this searchable I'm gonna get you in hot water with hittrax.........

    2. Give non-premium members the ability to buy some of the preemie features with MB cash..... So if one of us Old Farts sees a promising young'un we can give 'em enough MB cash to buy a month's premium membership at, say, $5000 a month........ Call it a scholarship program :) (it ends up being a twofer the price of one if everyone chooses to sponsor someone)

    3. I don't get the 'no approval on new files' thing.... Are you saying that you're willing to work your mods harder for paying members?? ;) The approval system is simply a librarian function as I see it... to keep everything where it belongs and prevent duplicates.

    3. Image in sig is good... but what about the bigger, better avatar possibility......

    4. Some other random ideas thrown out as brainstorming catalysts without thought as to their ramifications.......
    • free 'importants'
    • gift certs to amazon (so I can buy a book or two and add my reviews?? ;))
    • a little bot that says "you last visited"... in fact, I'm gonna put that in the suggestion box for everyone :)
    • premium members' webpages listed under 'buddies' on left bar.... or at least a link to a list on the left
    • unlimited PM's for preemies ( oh and for Zel.... something is just WRONG with his box I think...)
    • re-open self-sequenced for premies... I know its still out there, I clicked a link and ended up in it while modding the other day ;)
    • an agreement between preemies and Mods making preemies realize that their dollar does not make them immune to board rules
    • invites to the annual MB picnic to be held at John's.....
    .... okay..... so I'm gettin' a bit punchy now ;).. as I said.... catalysts.. please comment either way on those and other ideas!
  10. KingXII

    KingXII S MOD

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    :rolleyes:
    hmm I currently pay $100 for 2 years, lets see unlimited bandwidth, unlimited webspace (it's set to upwards of 500MB), FTP access, email (got that already). John that's tough to beat..........
  11. jeaniesing

    jeaniesing Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod

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    Which begs the question.... will Mod abilities be scaled back in this change?
  12. Pol

    Pol Stuck on the M1 <img src="images/smilies/shakehead Staff Member Super Mod

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    Features i would be interested in would be firstly the extra web space
    75 megs sounds like a good offer and would give me enough legroom to develop a pretty good music site

    Some sort of access to HitTrax via either MB cash or gift certs, whichever is easier to organise. I'm not saying you should be giving pro files away for nothing but some kind of concession for premium members would be good

    Someone mentioned bringing back the self sequenced forum for premium members also.....could this be done using moderators to make sure copyright material does not end up there and so keep everything above board ?

    Finally the special forum, and possibly even a chatroom for premiums to talk directly and make file swapping quicker and more direct ?.....i recently joined the MidiHub for this reason but there never seems to be anyone online...ever !

    Hope this helps John and i would definitely be interested in membership if even some of these suggestions were available
  13. tavenger5

    tavenger5 Mr Admin Guy Staff Member Admin

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    I could possibly do the web address (for you ;)) But the standard would be something like http://midibuddy.net/~jeaniesing

    God, please don't ever upload the hittrax files anywhere! There are severe punishments under international copyright law infringement. There are rewards given to people who find their files and report violators. (like $1000 rewards!) So, no, that won't be allowed. It won't be searchable. Member sites will be completely seperate from midibuddy.

    Na, I think that would take the whole point out of it. I can't give out certs to just anyone. The premium membership won't be available in the store, but the certs will (for premium members) Obviously admins and super mods will get features for free assuming they're doing their jobs ;)

    Well, I'm assuming that if someone is interested enough in midibuddy to purchase a membership that they would be conscious of the rules. Waiting for a file to be approved can be a pain. This would apply to the request forum and new file forum.

    The image sig is a bigger better avatar. I've thought about it and I think I'm going to reserve some of the features in the feature store too. Like the name color and italic. They could be for prem members and special people that mods would choose or something. Of course the prem members would also have a special icon in their posts.

    Importants?

    Gift certs to amazon would be harder but it is a possibility for extra special people.

    Unlimited PM's is an idea. However with $5k of MB $ a month they could just buy all the quota they need.

    What kind of bot?

    Prem members could certainly list their pages in their profiles and sigs. On the left the list might get long, and it wouldn't be automatic. I would make exceptions though. A list of prem members would be easy to do.

    Self sequenced would be reopened for prem members. There could also be other special forums.

    I'll fire up the grill and fill up the pool:
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  14. tavenger5

    tavenger5 Mr Admin Guy Staff Member Admin

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    Nope. They'd be upgraded. Regular mods would have all the abilities of a prem member. Obviously this may make fo some competition between mods. I would of course be more giving to super-mods ;)
  15. tavenger5

    tavenger5 Mr Admin Guy Staff Member Admin

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    I was also thinking of offering different levels of hosting. I would be able to host domains also. Maybe 3 different levels of hosting. The basic at 25megs. Medium at 50megs (with personal domain and mail). and 100megs with the works. What do you think?

    Yeh, I have to talk to HitTrax about this still.

    Yeh, mods would be able to mod this forum like before. It's still there, just not active.

    Yeh, this is possible. The thing with a chatroom is getting people in it. I don't know how many prem members would be online at the same time, etc, etc... A seperate forum for general prem member stuff is definitely going to happen though. The midihub has died down since some of the older members haven't been on as much lately

    I appreciate your input. I'm extra nice to people that show strong interest in the page ;)
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  16. tavenger5

    tavenger5 Mr Admin Guy Staff Member Admin

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    Nothing ever unlimited in terms of space and bandwidth, trust me. Don't worry, I can hook you up regardless.
  17. jeaniesing

    jeaniesing Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod

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    no no noooo... I mean something that hittrax has in their catalog but I have a different version of!

    Understood.... but wouldn't a great selling point be current enjoyers of premium services giving others a taste of what is offered?? It's worked in advertising for years ;)..... so if it were available in the feature store for 10 or 15 thousand (or more) for a one month subscription.... that would allow those with enough $$ or those with a 'wealthy benefactress' to taste......

    y'know.... sticky threads.....

    Okay, Okay.... ya got me... I haven't a clue!!!! yeesh.... the one time I think I have the lingo down ;)..... I just know my bank account says "Last visited 6/10/2003 at 9:36PM when I access it ;)

    Whaddya have in mind there..... my imagination reels....... Ummmm :idea: the only forum that allows attachment of MP3's so we can share >original< work that way as well?
  18. Pol

    Pol Stuck on the M1 <img src="images/smilies/shakehead Staff Member Super Mod

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    Yeah the different hosting levels sounds good....member can then choose which one has sufficient options for what he/she wants.

    I understand the problems with a chatroom (timezones etc) but at least it would be an option (like a little midihub within the site)

    Did i pick you up wrong or did you mention that regular Midibuddy moderators would have the same privileges as premium members ?..... not sure i'd go along with that one

    Finally, i thought you were involved in someway with the HitTrax operation, if not i can see the difficulties..... but some sort of concession for premiums would get alot more people on board i'm sure.
  19. KingXII

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    John one thing you failed to address is payment options. Well not everyone will want to use paypal, even though paypal accepts credit cards.
  20. tavenger5

    tavenger5 Mr Admin Guy Staff Member Admin

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    ohhh!! yeh, since I would be leasing out space the only thing I wouldn't allow is porn and warez.

    Yeh, I see what you mean in that aspect. But it would only be allowed once as a trial membership. Keeping track of this may be difficult, however. I'll have to talk to my programmer.


    Oh yeh... Well, again, since they can be bought in the store, and a prem member would get 5k a month. We don't want too many important threads.

    humm.. mps can be big and uploading to the database will definitely slow it down. (when it's coded into a database it's different then if it were uploaded to a server as a file)
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