RAP5/4/15-17 Ted Spencer

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by Carey Carlan, Aug 18, 2003.

  1. Carey Carlan

    Carey Carlan Guest

    "Adagio" and "El Barrio"

    As "Adagio" started I was suspicious. I had heard several other
    "orchestral sounding" snippets in the previous cuts and disks and was
    wondering whether this was "live or Roland". Discovering that it was a
    movie soundtrack reassured me. Movie scores aren't "real" symphonic
    recordings because of their symbiosis with the moving image.

    I hear a lot of experience in this assemblage. To take channels from
    instruments in different rooms and blend them like this takes talent and
    practice.

    "It Couldn't Be True"

    This is a single tracked (all by one person) cut with a good engineer
    behind it.

    I don't know that I could tell you without having read the notes, but I
    think I hear the analog tape in this one. It has that glue.
  2. Ted Spencer

    Ted Spencer Guest

    Carey Carlan wrote:

    << "Adagio" and "El Barrio"

    As "Adagio" started I was suspicious. I had heard several other
    "orchestral sounding" snippets in the previous cuts and disks and was
    wondering whether this was "live or Roland". Discovering that it was a
    movie soundtrack reassured me. >>

    "Adagio" was all "real" instruments, including a 25 piece string section. "El
    Barrio" had real drums, percussion (partly), guitars, bass and trumpet. The
    rest was midi.

    <<I hear a lot of experience in this assemblage. To take channels from
    instruments in different rooms and blend them like this takes talent and
    practice.>>

    Thanks! I'd been "practicing" professionally for 18 years at the time (1992).
    Almost 30 by now.

    <<"It Couldn't Be True"

    This is a single tracked (all by one person) cut with a good engineer
    behind it.

    I don't know that I could tell you without having read the notes, but I
    think I hear the analog tape in this one. It has that glue.
    >><BR><BR>


    The drums, bass, keyboard and percussion parts were all midi "virtual tracks"
    never printed to tape until the mix. The guitars and vocals were on 2" 24
    track, and the mix was done to 1/4" 2 track.

    I think I know what you mean by "glue". I usually describe it as trying to make
    the mix "hang together" or "sound like a record" (a well-worn phrase among
    engineers and producers I've known) . Analog tape helps in that effort, as it
    does for most other aspects of a pop recording (I still prefer to work with
    analog tape even though about 90% of the time I'm using Pro Tools or Digital
    Performer because my clients do). Getting a mix to cohere is mostly about the
    mixing though, not the medium. I don't consider myself done with a (final) mix
    until it does that.

    My sincere thanks for your generous contribution in commenting on all of our
    efforts on this set. Now all I need to do is get off my ass, order the set, and
    do the same.


    Ted Spencer, NYC

    "No amount of classical training will ever teach you what's so cool about
    "Tighten Up" by Archie Bell And The Drells" -author unknown

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