RAP5 - reviews - Hre, ot there ?

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by Geoff Wood, Aug 23, 2003.

  1. Geoff Wood

    Geoff Wood Guest

    How about a whole newsgroup devoted to reviews and discusiion on RAPCDs ?

    geoff
  2. Carey Carlan

    Carey Carlan Guest

    "Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in
    news:yOR1b.13442$9f7.1591973@news02.tsnz.net:

    > How about a whole newsgroup devoted to reviews and discusiion on RAPCDs ?
    >
    > geoff


    This is it. There's no more on topic posting in RAP than compilation
    comments.

    How about a newsgroup devoid of political threads, personal attack threads,
    etc.
  3. Bob Cain

    Bob Cain Guest

    Carey Carlan wrote:
    >
    > "Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in
    > news:yOR1b.13442$9f7.1591973@news02.tsnz.net:
    >
    > > How about a whole newsgroup devoted to reviews and discusiion on RAPCDs ?
    > >
    > > geoff

    >
    > This is it. There's no more on topic posting in RAP than compilation
    > comments.


    I agree but I think it might be a good thing for each
    reviewer to keep his reviews within a single thread with a
    common subject, for example "RAP5 - reviews - Carey Carlan",
    with the individual tracks being addressed in the body of
    the notes in the thread rather than in the subject. Should
    a lot of people ever begin doing it by track there will be
    an awful lot of new threads. Someone who is not here for
    that kind of info (or doesn't care what a particular
    individual thinks :) only has to kill one thread per
    reviewer rather than the number of reviewers times the
    number of tracks.


    Bob
    --

    "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
    simpler."

    A. Einstein
  4. Carey Carlan

    Carey Carlan Guest

    Bob Cain <arcane@arcanemethods.com> wrote in
    news:3F48362B.3BDBB8D1@arcanemethods.com:

    > I agree but I think it might be a good thing for each
    > reviewer to keep his reviews within a single thread with a
    > common subject, for example "RAP5 - reviews - Carey Carlan",
    > with the individual tracks being addressed in the body of
    > the notes in the thread rather than in the subject. Should
    > a lot of people ever begin doing it by track there will be
    > an awful lot of new threads. Someone who is not here for
    > that kind of info (or doesn't care what a particular
    > individual thinks :) only has to kill one thread per
    > reviewer rather than the number of reviewers times the
    > number of tracks.


    I agree, Bob, but the intent was to start a single thread on each cut and
    let everyone comment on that cut in that thread.

    I had no expectation of being the only post in each of these 100+ threads.
  5. Bob Cain

    Bob Cain Guest

    Carey Carlan wrote:
    >
    > I agree, Bob, but the intent was to start a single thread on each cut and
    > let everyone comment on that cut in that thread.
    >
    > I had no expectation of being the only post in each of these 100+ threads.


    No criticism implied, Carey. In a moment when nothing else
    was there to occupy my mind it just started extrapolating.
    :)


    Bob
    --

    "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
    simpler."

    A. Einstein
  6. In article <Xns93E17D201E6Dgulfjoehotmailcom@207.69.154.206>, Carey
    Carlan <gulfjoe@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > Bob Cain <arcane@arcanemethods.com> wrote in
    > news:3F48362B.3BDBB8D1@arcanemethods.com:
    >
    > > I agree but I think it might be a good thing for each
    > > reviewer to keep his reviews within a single thread with a
    > > common subject, for example "RAP5 - reviews - Carey Carlan",

    >
    > I agree, Bob, but the intent was to start a single thread on each cut and
    > let everyone comment on that cut in that thread.
    >
    > I had no expectation of being the only post in each of these 100+ threads



    I'm trying to remember where I put my discs! I swear I'll add some
    notes... eventually...

    Anyway, it's good that somebody is trying to prime the pump a bit. Let's
    all pull out our copies and add some messages. Having every review in
    one thread would be a bit too crowded and difficult to follow. Maybe you
    could split them up by disc number. The track by track thing didn't
    bother me, however. It just made me feel bad that I didn't make any
    comments when I first got my CDs. the R.A.P. CD project is a good idea
    and a lot could be learned by discussing techniques used etc. I didn't
    choose the best sounding track available, but rather one that had some
    educational value. Heck, it wasn't even a mastering project. There were
    certain techniques used and certain problems encountered that I thought
    may provide useful illustrations. Without the discussions, it's not
    nearly as useful an undertaking.

    OK, OK, I'll go find my copies...

    --
    Jay Frigoletto
    Mastersuite
    Los Angeles
    promastering.com
  7. mine12u

    mine12u Guest

    Bob Cain <arcane@arcanemethods.com> wrote in message news:<3F48362B.3BDBB8D1@arcanemethods.com>...
    > Carey Carlan wrote:
    > >
    > > "Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in
    > > news:yOR1b.13442$9f7.1591973@news02.tsnz.net:
    > >
    > > > How about a whole newsgroup devoted to reviews and discusiion on RAPCDs ?
    > > >
    > > > geoff

    > >
    > > This is it. There's no more on topic posting in RAP than compilation
    > > comments.

    >
    > I agree but I think it might be a good thing for each
    > reviewer to keep his reviews within a single thread with a
    > common subject, for example "RAP5 - reviews - Carey Carlan",
    > with the individual tracks being addressed in the body of
    > the notes in the thread rather than in the subject. Should
    > a lot of people ever begin doing it by track there will be
    > an awful lot of new threads. Someone who is not here for
    > that kind of info (or doesn't care what a particular
    > individual thinks :) only has to kill one thread per
    > reviewer rather than the number of reviewers times the
    > number of tracks.
    >
    >
    > Bob



    How do I kill "ALL" Carey Carlan posts? I do not wish to see his
    reviews.
    It's worse than SPAM!! (to me anyway) Even if I had the cd's I
    wouldn't want to see a cazillion reviews by one person on every page.
    I am suprised no one has said anything sooner. It's not totally off
    topic, only good for the people involved and the majority of this
    group isn't. He should email his review to the artist/engineer. Just
    post a reference to the cd's for sales like once a week or something
    to promote it. If I saw that once a week, I just might eventually buy
    it. In my eye's, as of now my sale is corrupted by CC.
  8. NeilH011

    NeilH011 Guest

    >How do I kill "ALL" Carey Carlan posts? I do not wish to see his
    >reviews.
    >It's worse than SPAM!! (to me anyway) Even if I had the cd's I
    >wouldn't want to see a cazillion reviews by one person on every page.
    >I am suprised no one has said anything sooner. It's not totally off
    >topic, only good for the people involved and the majority of this
    >group isn't. He should email his review to the artist/engineer. Just
    >post a reference to the cd's for sales like once a week or something
    >to promote it. If I saw that once a week, I just might eventually buy
    >it. In my eye's, as of now my sale is corrupted by CC.


    Nice attitude towards someone who's making a very time-consuming effort to
    elighten/provide perspective/spark some more interest in the compilation.
    There's one in every crowd, I suppose.

    NeilH
  9. Carey Carlan

    Carey Carlan Guest

    mas828@comcast.net (mine12u) wrote in
    news:18d83aee.0308240758.58527e@posting.google.com:

    > How do I kill "ALL" Carey Carlan posts? I do not wish to see his
    > reviews.
    > It's worse than SPAM!! (to me anyway) Even if I had the cd's I
    > wouldn't want to see a cazillion reviews by one person on every page.
    > I am suprised no one has said anything sooner. It's not totally off
    > topic, only good for the people involved and the majority of this
    > group isn't. He should email his review to the artist/engineer. Just
    > post a reference to the cd's for sales like once a week or something
    > to promote it. If I saw that once a week, I just might eventually buy
    > it. In my eye's, as of now my sale is corrupted by CC.


    It depends on your newsreader.

    One way is to ignore any thread with a message header beginning with
    "RAP5/"

    You can also add me to your killfile list ("Plonk").

    But the best answer is that it's over. All 5 disks are covered and will
    not be repeated.
  10. "mine12u" <mas828@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:18d83aee.0308240758.58527e@posting.google.com...
    > How do I kill "ALL" Carey Carlan posts? I do not wish to see his
    > reviews.
    > It's worse than SPAM!! (to me anyway) Even if I had the cd's I
    > wouldn't want to see a cazillion reviews by one person on every page.
    > I am suprised no one has said anything sooner. It's not totally off
    > topic, only good for the people involved and the majority of this
    > group isn't. He should email his review to the artist/engineer. Just
    > post a reference to the cd's for sales like once a week or something
    > to promote it. If I saw that once a week, I just might eventually buy
    > it. In my eye's, as of now my sale is corrupted by CC.


    Jesus H. Christ! you sure as hell missed the point of the whole exercise.
    Look for one of those weekly posted references and go to the website to read
    why the RAP CDs got started. Then come back and apologize to Carey. If you
    can't work up the enthusiasm or courage to do that, then crawl back under
    your rock.

    Jerry Steiger
  11. mine12u <mas828@comcast.net> wrote:

    > How do I kill "ALL" Carey Carlan posts? I do not wish to see his
    > reviews.


    Filter by sender; it's that simple if you have a capable newsreader.
  12. mine12u <mas828@comcast.net> wrote:

    > It's worse than SPAM!! (to me anyway) Even if I had the cd's I
    > wouldn't want to see a cazillion reviews by one person on every page.
    > I am suprised no one has said anything sooner.


    Smell your finger.

    --
    ha
  13. >How about a whole newsgroup devoted to >reviews and discusiion on RAPCDs ?

    How about any systematic reviews of the set get archived on the website?
    If there were an interface to put the reviews with the liner notes like
    Amazon.com except far simpler. Heck, just having it all in one text file
    archived ain't a bad idea!
  14. >I agree, Bob, but the intent was to start a single thread on each cut and
    >let everyone comment on that cut in that thread.


    This is the best way to go in the end. It lets people quickly respond to
    specific cuts.
  15. Harvey Gerst

    Harvey Gerst Guest

    mas828@comcast.net (mine12u) wrote:

    >How do I kill "ALL" Carey Carlan posts? I do not wish to see his
    >reviews.
    >It's worse than SPAM!! (to me anyway) Even if I had the cd's I
    >wouldn't want to see a cazillion reviews by one person on every page.
    >I am suprised no one has said anything sooner. It's not totally off
    >topic, only good for the people involved and the majority of this
    >group isn't. He should email his review to the artist/engineer. Just
    >post a reference to the cd's for sales like once a week or something
    >to promote it. If I saw that once a week, I just might eventually buy
    >it. In my eye's, as of now my sale is corrupted by CC.


    Ouch. You realize that the compilation set is from over 100 members of the
    r.a.p. community? Most of it is designed to elicit responses such as, "Hey,
    that's a cool sound; how'd he do that?". This way, we all have a common set of
    reference CDs to compare, dissect, or borrow techniques from, along with copius
    notes on how most of the sounds were achieved.

    I'm sorry your sale is now corrupted, but it's never been about making money -
    it's about sharing knowledge. Where else are you going to find a track by
    George Massenburg (from the "Bohemian RapCDs set"), where George explains mic
    placements and selections in detail? Five 78 minute CDs for $15, plus shipping?
    6 hours of music, plus a hundred pages of liner notes, spelling out exactly what
    was used and how?

    You may be offended; I'm simply in awe of the wonderful contributors to this
    newsgroup, and their sample tracks simply prove, once again, they know exactly
    what they're talking about.

    Harvey Gerst
    Indian Trail Recording Studio
    http://www.ITRstudio.com/
  16. Chris Smalt

    Chris Smalt Guest

    An anonymous poster wrote:

    > How do I kill "ALL" Carey Carlan posts? I do not wish to see his
    > reviews.
    > It's worse than SPAM!! (to me anyway) Even if I had the cd's I
    > wouldn't want to see a cazillion reviews by one person on every page.
    > I am suprised no one has said anything sooner. It's not totally off
    > topic, only good for the people involved and the majority of this
    > group isn't. He should email his review to the artist/engineer. Just
    > post a reference to the cd's for sales like once a week or something
    > to promote it. If I saw that once a week, I just might eventually buy
    > it. In my eye's, as of now my sale is corrupted by CC.



    Funniest post this week!


    Chris
  17. Chris Smalt

    Chris Smalt Guest

    Hank wrote:

    > Filter by sender; it's that simple if you have a capable newsreader.



    He's on Google - I guess the best solution for him is not to read r.a.p.
    for a while.


    Chris
  18. Scott Dorsey

    Scott Dorsey Guest

    NeilH011 <neilh011@cs.com> wrote:
    >>How do I kill "ALL" Carey Carlan posts? I do not wish to see his
    >>reviews.

    >
    >Nice attitude towards someone who's making a very time-consuming effort to
    >elighten/provide perspective/spark some more interest in the compilation.
    >There's one in every crowd, I suppose.


    I really like the reviews, and I'd like to see more of them. The reviews
    are the whole point of the RAP CD collection if you ask me.

    I'd like to see some on the LP too, if folks wouldn't mind.

    But, if you don't like them, but the subjects into your killfile. Killfiles
    are really the only effective way to read high volume newsgroups. If I had
    to read all the messages here, I'd go insane. I don't have that kind of time.
    Killfiles let you read the subjects you're interested in, and avoid the
    ones you aren't. The manual for your newsreader should explain how they
    work.
    --scott

    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
  19. Chris Smalt <smalt@wanadoo.nl> wrote:

    > Hank wrote:


    > > Filter by sender; it's that simple if you have a capable newsreader.


    > He's on Google - I guess the best solution for him is not to read r.a.p.
    > for a while.


    Bingo! It's that simple if he has any self-control...

    --
    ha
  20. Harvey Gerst <harvey@ITRstudio.com> wrote:

    > Ouch. You realize that the compilation set is from over 100 members of
    > the r.a.p. community? Most of it is designed to elicit responses such as,
    > "Hey, that's a cool sound; how'd he do that?". This way, we all have a
    > common set of reference CDs to compare, dissect, or borrow techniques
    > from, along with copius notes on how most of the sounds were achieved.


    And how is any of that stuff half as important as Smellyfinger's screen
    real estate?

    --
    ha

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