RAP5 - reviews - Hre, ot there ?

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by Geoff Wood, Aug 23, 2003.

  1. "mine12u" <mas828@comcast.net> wrote in message ...
    > > By going to your ISP's news server, you avoid waiting forever for google
    > > to bring messages up, and you don't have to use all that cheesy web

    interface
    > > stuff.
    > > --scott

    >
    >
    > DOH!, you mean i can read this group thru Comcasts' newsgroups? (if
    > it's listed)
    > If not, then I'll try another way. I guess I'll do a GOOGLE search!
    > I'm gonna check it out...
    >
    > Thank you!
    >
    > M


    netnews.comcast.net gets you to their news server. Enter that in the
    account settings of Outlook Express. It will download a couple thousand
    groups. Find rec.audio.pro and enjoy...

    --Ben

    --
    Benjamin Maas
    Fifth Circle Audio
    Los Angeles, CA
    http://www.fifthcircle.com
  2. mine12u <mas828@comcast.net> wrote:

    > > By going to your ISP's news server, you avoid waiting forever for google
    > > to bring messages up, and you don't have to use all that cheesy web
    > > interface stuff.
    >>--scott


    > DOH!, you mean i can read this group thru Comcasts' newsgroups? (if
    > it's listed)
    > If not, then I'll try another way. I guess I'll do a GOOGLE search!
    > I'm gonna check it out...


    If you can get at Usenet action via any "real" newsreader, you will find
    available a plethora of filtering parameters, including the ability to
    autotag certain subjects, authors, etc., you might wish to read and
    killfile the same when you don't wish to read. It's really a much more
    fun way to participate.

    --
    hank alrich * secret mountain
    audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
    "If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"
  3. mine12u <mas828@comcast.net> wrote:

    > walkinay@thegrid.net (LeBaron & Alrich) wrote...


    > > mine12u <mas828@comcast.net> wrote:


    > > > It's worse than SPAM!! (to me anyway) Even if I had the cd's I
    > > > wouldn't want to see a cazillion reviews by one person on every page.
    > > > I am suprised no one has said anything sooner.


    > > Smell your finger.


    > I can't, it's in your ass.


    Nice try, Smellyfinger, but you don't know me well enough to manage that
    level of insertion. So it's probably in a hole in the ground,
    considering your powers of discernment.

    --
    ha
  4. mine12u <mas828@comcast.net> wrote:

    > This newsgroup is a very valuble
    > resource. But, I really only see one person making reviews, and...not
    > many others, only those responding to his review. WTF?


    Eventually more of us will get time to listen carefully and follow on
    CC's comments. For me this will not happen until early winter. So be it.
    In the meantime I am very happy to see someone take the initiative to
    make intelligent comments that may well prove helpful to some of the
    contributors.

    > It just makes it hard to see the other more important..., technical;
    > problem; or informative posts readable.


    This group deals with technical issues, but it also deals with musical
    esthetics. Sometimes the issues affecting that area are not ones with
    technical solutions.

    --
    hank alrich * secret mountain
    audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
    "If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"
  5. mine12u <mas828@comcast.net> wrote:

    > I am only offended by the spam of ONE contributor over and over
    > filling my screen with his gibberish.


    You need to go look up the definition of SPAM, because those reviews are
    not SPAM, not even remotely. The reviewer offers only information and
    seeks nothing but the same in return. He has nothing to sell you.

    --
    hank alrich * secret mountain
    audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
    "If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"
  6. Romeo Rondeau <romeorondeau@attbi.com> wrote:

    > My suspicion is that you aren't exactly using an easy method of reading the
    > group, anyway. How hard is it to just not read those threads?


    Well, if someone can't even tell where is their finger, maybe it's
    impossible.

    --
    ha
  7. Ty Ford <tford@jagunet.com> wrote:

    > Um, well the whole idea behind the rap CD projects was to bring us closer
    > together. Instead of just talking (typing) about what we were doing, we
    > could hear what each other was doing and then discuss it.


    > Maybe you're in the wrong newsgroup.


    Is there a newsgroup for runaway fingers?

    --
    ha
  8. Romeo Rondeau <romeorondeau@attbi.com> wrote:

    > For the "political", "analog is better than digital", "kids can't make music
    > these days" and the "C1000's suck" posts? :)


    I know you know how to filter those. <g>

    --
    ha
  9. Roger W. Norman <rnorman@starpower.net> wrote:

    > I dare say that if your post is indicative of what the majority on this
    > newsgroup wants, then there won't be another RAP CD in the offing any time
    > soon.


    Hey, Smellyfinger gets me off the hook!

    --
    ha
  10. mine12u

    mine12u Guest

    "Roger W. Norman" <rnorman@starpower.net> wrote in message news:<bidrn1$5ab$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
    > Well, about 90 of us on the group did participate, and the concept is to get
    > you, the others in the group, to purchase the CDs for examples of people's
    > techniques fully explained with technical notes (liner notes we call them).
    > There's been a pretty lackidasical response to these compilations for the
    > last couple of pressings, and it's either time to figure out whether it's
    > worth it to do it again, or simply give it up before Harvey ends up with a
    > full batch pressed and no takers.
    >
    > I dare say that if your post is indicative of what the majority on this
    > newsgroup wants, then there won't be another RAP CD in the offing any time
    > soon.
    >
    > --


    I don't mean to dis the compilation at all. I wish I had it...really.
    It shouldn't stop, I'd like to be a part of it someday, it's a
    beautiful thing! I just got wierded out from goin on "google>Rap".
    Where most other cd's reviewed (commercial) get one thread and a
    million sub posts, this CD gets a million threads and a few subs.

    And if all 90 people involved posted thier own review, (90 reviews for
    each song = ???) wouldn't that overwelm the newsgroup? I mean, no room
    for other technical questions problems.(?) Thats was my beef.
    But,.......the cd in question IS a R.A.P. cd, so you guys are correct
    and I am totally wrong.

    Sorry for my mis-interpetation.......I can see the light! Just can't
    hear it yet!

    M


    >
    >
    > Roger W. Norman
    > SirMusic Studio
    > Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net.
    > See how far $20 really goes.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "mine12u" <mas828@comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:18d83aee.0308240758.58527e@posting.google.com...
    > > Bob Cain <arcane@arcanemethods.com> wrote in message

    > news:<3F48362B.3BDBB8D1@arcanemethods.com>...
    > > > Carey Carlan wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > "Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in
    > > > > news:yOR1b.13442$9f7.1591973@news02.tsnz.net:
    > > > >
    > > > > > How about a whole newsgroup devoted to reviews and discusiion on

    > RAPCDs ?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > geoff
    > > > >
    > > > > This is it. There's no more on topic posting in RAP than compilation
    > > > > comments.
    > > >
    > > > I agree but I think it might be a good thing for each
    > > > reviewer to keep his reviews within a single thread with a
    > > > common subject, for example "RAP5 - reviews - Carey Carlan",
    > > > with the individual tracks being addressed in the body of
    > > > the notes in the thread rather than in the subject. Should
    > > > a lot of people ever begin doing it by track there will be
    > > > an awful lot of new threads. Someone who is not here for
    > > > that kind of info (or doesn't care what a particular
    > > > individual thinks :) only has to kill one thread per
    > > > reviewer rather than the number of reviewers times the
    > > > number of tracks.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Bob

    > >
    > >
    > > How do I kill "ALL" Carey Carlan posts? I do not wish to see his
    > > reviews.
    > > It's worse than SPAM!! (to me anyway) Even if I had the cd's I
    > > wouldn't want to see a cazillion reviews by one person on every page.
    > > I am suprised no one has said anything sooner. It's not totally off
    > > topic, only good for the people involved and the majority of this
    > > group isn't. He should email his review to the artist/engineer. Just
    > > post a reference to the cd's for sales like once a week or something
    > > to promote it. If I saw that once a week, I just might eventually buy
    > > it. In my eye's, as of now my sale is corrupted by CC.
  11. Scott Dorsey

    Scott Dorsey Guest

    mine12u <mas828@comcast.net> wrote:
    >> By going to your ISP's news server, you avoid waiting forever for google
    >> to bring messages up, and you don't have to use all that cheesy web interface
    >> stuff.

    >
    >DOH!, you mean i can read this group thru Comcasts' newsgroups? (if
    >it's listed)


    Right. Get the name of comcast's news server (it's not nntp.comcast.net
    or news.comcast.net, which were my first two guesses... you will have to
    ask tech support), put it into your news client software under "nntp server"
    and go.

    >If not, then I'll try another way. I guess I'll do a GOOGLE search!
    >I'm gonna check it out...


    There are also public nntp servers available for a fee, like supernews.com.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
  12. Rob Adelman

    Rob Adelman Guest

    mine12u wrote:


    > I don't mean to dis the compilation at all. I wish I had it...really.


    So what is stopping you? Its' only 20 bucks..
  13. Harvey Gerst

    Harvey Gerst Guest

    mas828@comcast.net (mine12u) wrote:

    >I don't mean to dis the compilation at all. I wish I had it...really.


    >Sorry for my mis-interpetation.......I can see the light! Just can't
    >hear it yet!


    So email me your shipping address and I'll send you a set tomorrow. If you like
    it, pay me when you can. If you don't like it, send it back.

    Harvey Gerst
    Indian Trail Recording Studio
    http://www.ITRstudio.com/
  14. Carey Carlan

    Carey Carlan Guest

    mas828@comcast.net (mine12u) wrote in
    news:18d83aee.0308250513.78d773b2@posting.google.com:

    > Carey, Please Don't take offense, (I know you didn't) your reviews are
    > excellent for the artists and the people involved. And, what you did
    > really does spark curiosity....and you do do a great job of conveying
    > your interpetation.


    None taken and thank you.
  15. Bob Cain

    Bob Cain Guest

    Harvey Gerst wrote:
    >
    > mas828@comcast.net (mine12u) wrote:
    >
    > >I don't mean to dis the compilation at all. I wish I had it...really.

    >
    > >Sorry for my mis-interpetation.......I can see the light! Just can't
    > >hear it yet!

    >
    > So email me your shipping address and I'll send you a set tomorrow. If you like
    > it, pay me when you can. If you don't like it, send it back.


    But don't pester us with a lot of reviews, ok? (Just
    kidding, just kidding. :)


    Bob
    --

    "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
    simpler."

    A. Einstein
  16. Carey Carlan

    Carey Carlan Guest

    mas828@comcast.net (mine12u) wrote in
    news:18d83aee.0308250905.3bc3392c@posting.google.com:

    > Well, no, you are absolutely correct. This newsgroup is a very valuble
    > resource. But, I really only see one person making reviews, and...not
    > many others, only those responding to his review. WTF? I know exacty
    > why these cd's were made. But, seeing one person only reviewing every
    > single solitary song in R.A.P., (Instead of P.A.R. = Pro.Audio.Review)
    > It just makes it hard to see the other more important..., technical;
    > problem; or informative posts readable.
    > Thats all. Not that these post aren't extremely important to the
    > recording industry.


    How long have you been reading RAP? A week? Two? My reviews don't run
    all year. If you saw any reference to disk 2 (RAP5/2/anything) that was
    when it started. And you commented just as it ended. Why so may posts?
    Because there were 5 disks each with over 20 tracks.

    Why did I do it? Many reasons. Among them:

    a) I thought the contributors deserved feedback.
    b) Sparking conversation about audio in RAP is always a good thing.
    c) I had the time between projects in August.
    d) Harvey mentioned that sales of the set were lagging.
    e) The selfish one: I want feedback on mine, too.

    This surge of compilation messages will pass. Discussions of cardioids at
    90 degrees will pass. $22,000 amps. It will all fade under the next wave
    of whatever (except politics, of course, that never wanes).

    Speaking of google searches, I did one on me. I searched for all threads I
    had started (i.e. postings without "Re:" in the subject). Before this
    review series, Google finds about 100. Ever. For all time.

    Peace?
  17. Chris Smalt

    Chris Smalt Guest

    An anonymous source wrote:

    > I am only offended by the spam of ONE contributor over and over
    > filling my screen with his gibberish.



    Wow - you have the time and energy to be offended by something that
    wasn't directed to you? But what might help you - barring the use of a
    real newsreader - is setting the number of results to 100 in Google's
    preferences. This way your screen is filled with his gibberish only
    once or twice. And while you're at it, have the results open in a new
    window. Don't forget to use the keyboard shortcut for closing the new
    window (Command-W on the Mac, Alt-F4 on the PC). Remember that
    Command-~ (Mac) or Alt-tab (PC) lets you cycle through the open windows.
    On the Mac, adding the Shift key cycles backwards - not sure if the PC
    does that too.


    Chris
  18. "mine12u" <mas828@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:18d83aee.0308250908.7d413ba9@posting.google.com...
    Snip
    > But, any suggestion for a better newsreader other than IE>Google.com
    > is very much appreciated.


    Register on http://News.CIS.DFN.DE for their English language service. Then
    use Outlook Express or Gravity or several other readers whose names I can't
    recall right now.

    Jerry Steiger
  19. "Carey Carlan" <gulfjoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns93E2EA06A8D60gulfjoehotmailcom@207.69.154.205...
    Snip
    > Speaking of google searches, I did one on me. I searched for all threads

    I
    > had started (i.e. postings without "Re:" in the subject). Before this
    > review series, Google finds about 100. Ever. For all time.



    Yeah, you need to write more! I don't ever remember a post from you that I
    haven't enjoyed, learned from, been intrigued by, thought about, or all of
    the above.

    (Did you include "Gulf Joe" in your count?)

    Jerry Steiger
  20. Don't listen to him Carey, the fact that you found it important enough to
    take the time to write them makes you one hell of an asset to the group.
    Thank you again for the reviews.


    "Carey Carlan" <gulfjoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns93E2EA06A8D60gulfjoehotmailcom@207.69.154.205...
    > mas828@comcast.net (mine12u) wrote in
    > news:18d83aee.0308250905.3bc3392c@posting.google.com:
    >
    > > Well, no, you are absolutely correct. This newsgroup is a very valuble
    > > resource. But, I really only see one person making reviews, and...not
    > > many others, only those responding to his review. WTF? I know exacty
    > > why these cd's were made. But, seeing one person only reviewing every
    > > single solitary song in R.A.P., (Instead of P.A.R. = Pro.Audio.Review)
    > > It just makes it hard to see the other more important..., technical;
    > > problem; or informative posts readable.
    > > Thats all. Not that these post aren't extremely important to the
    > > recording industry.

    >
    > How long have you been reading RAP? A week? Two? My reviews don't run
    > all year. If you saw any reference to disk 2 (RAP5/2/anything) that was
    > when it started. And you commented just as it ended. Why so may posts?
    > Because there were 5 disks each with over 20 tracks.
    >
    > Why did I do it? Many reasons. Among them:
    >
    > a) I thought the contributors deserved feedback.
    > b) Sparking conversation about audio in RAP is always a good thing.
    > c) I had the time between projects in August.
    > d) Harvey mentioned that sales of the set were lagging.
    > e) The selfish one: I want feedback on mine, too.
    >
    > This surge of compilation messages will pass. Discussions of cardioids at
    > 90 degrees will pass. $22,000 amps. It will all fade under the next wave
    > of whatever (except politics, of course, that never wanes).
    >
    > Speaking of google searches, I did one on me. I searched for all threads

    I
    > had started (i.e. postings without "Re:" in the subject). Before this
    > review series, Google finds about 100. Ever. For all time.
    >
    > Peace?

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