Re: FS: dbx 120 RIPOFF ALERT!

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by OFFICIAL RAM BLUEBOOK VALUATION, Sep 1, 2003.

  1. On 1/9/03 13:11, in article 3F521091.2090803@verizon.net, "John Noll"
    <jn145@verizon.net> wrote:

    > dbx 120 subharmonic synthesizer
    > in very good condition. $125 plus shipping.
    > Picture available


    Bluebook value, $10.

    Known as a "piece of crap" for inventing sounds not there.

    RIPOFF ALERT!
  2. And you have room to talk!

    > Known as a "piece of crap" for inventing sounds not there.
  3. OFFICIAL RAM JACKOFF spewed:

    > Bluebook value, $10.
    >
    > Known as a "piece of crap" for inventing sounds not there.
    >
    > RIPOFF ALERT!
    >


    No you are cinfusing somethng by dBX with yourself....
  4. Fletcher

    Fletcher Guest

    OFFICIAL RAM BLUEBOOK VALUATION wrote:

    > On 1/9/03 13:11, in article 3F521091.2090803@verizon.net, "John Noll"
    > <jn145@verizon.net> wrote:
    >
    > > dbx 120 subharmonic synthesizer
    > > in very good condition. $125 plus shipping.
    > > Picture available

    >
    > Bluebook value, $10.
    >
    > Known as a "piece of crap" for inventing sounds not there.
    >
    > RIPOFF ALERT!


    As someone who does 'valuations' for the "Bluebook", I can tell you with
    some authority that many of the listings in the "Bluebook" are off... not
    all, but some... and there are so many listings in the book that it's
    pretty much impossible to be spot on with all of them. The kinda
    'default' values are that of "normal depreciation"... in other words...
    take the stuff listed in the "Bluebook" with a grain of salt... the
    values in the "Bluebook" are a reasonable guideline for insurance
    companies... but not necessarily proper when buying and selling hardware
    on a "P2P" level.

    As for the usefulness of the unit... that too will be decided by the
    buyer. Some models of the DBX-120 are better than others... but even the
    least useful is certainly worth $125- if that is the effect someone is
    looking to employ. FWIW, I've used the things before... and have found an
    occasional use for them. It's not something I would own personally...
    but I reckon I'd probably pony up for one if I did more
    "dance/trance/industrial" kinda stuff... as always, YMMV.
    --
    Fletcher
    Mercenary Audio
    TEL: 508-543-0069
    FAX: 508-543-9670
    http://www.mercenary.com
    "this is not a problem"
  5. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Fletcher <Fletcher@mercenary.com> wrote in message news:<3F5471BA.F6175022@mercenary.com>...
    > OFFICIAL RAM BLUEBOOK VALUATION wrote:
    >
    > > On 1/9/03 13:11, in article 3F521091.2090803@verizon.net, "John Noll"
    > > <jn145@verizon.net> wrote:
    > >
    > > > dbx 120 subharmonic synthesizer
    > > > in very good condition. $125 plus shipping.
    > > > Picture available

    > >
    > > Bluebook value, $10.
    > >
    > > Known as a "piece of crap" for inventing sounds not there.
    > >
    > > RIPOFF ALERT!

    >
    > As someone who does 'valuations' for the "Bluebook", I can tell you with
    > some authority that many of the listings in the "Bluebook" are off... not
    > all, but some... and there are so many listings in the book that it's
    > pretty much impossible to be spot on with all of them. The kinda
    > 'default' values are that of "normal depreciation"... in other words...
    > take the stuff listed in the "Bluebook" with a grain of salt... the
    > values in the "Bluebook" are a reasonable guideline for insurance
    > companies... but not necessarily proper when buying and selling hardware
    > on a "P2P" level.
    >
    > As for the usefulness of the unit... that too will be decided by the
    > buyer. Some models of the DBX-120 are better than others... but even the
    > least useful is certainly worth $125- if that is the effect someone is
    > looking to employ. FWIW, I've used the things before... and have found an
    > occasional use for them. It's not something I would own personally...
    > but I reckon I'd probably pony up for one if I did more
    > "dance/trance/industrial" kinda stuff... as always, YMMV.



    I don't own a bluebook but have the experience of having taken in a
    few things for possible trade and the dealer (GC) looking them up in
    the bluebook and my experience is that it is way off a lot.

    Of course we all think our crap is worth a lot but often I think the
    bluebook overvalues things as well. This particular GC bought or took
    trade for a whole studio worth of stuff centered around a Tascam
    85-16B. This was about a year ago or a little better. They put it on
    display for 3250.00. This just the tascam machine.

    I told them they would never get that amount and offered them 1500.00.
    The salesman, (who knows better than the price they had on it)
    confided the manager took it in and way over paid for it. They still
    have it. It is down to 1650.00.

    I feel pretty certain they must have checked the bluebook. Maybe the
    bluebook has some kind of "Vintage" markup? Who knows. Whatever the
    case they had no clue about the market for these.

    Mike http://www.mmeproductions.com
  6. Analogeezer

    Analogeezer Guest

    mmeprod@mmeproductions.com (Mike) wrote in message news:<934b3e2c.0309020554.4a1cc8d7@posting.google.com>...
    > Fletcher <Fletcher@mercenary.com> wrote in message news:<3F5471BA.F6175022@mercenary.com>...
    > > OFFICIAL RAM BLUEBOOK VALUATION wrote:
    > >
    > > > On 1/9/03 13:11, in article 3F521091.2090803@verizon.net, "John Noll"
    > > > <jn145@verizon.net> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > dbx 120 subharmonic synthesizer
    > > > > in very good condition. $125 plus shipping.
    > > > > Picture available
    > > >
    > > > Bluebook value, $10.
    > > >
    > > > Known as a "piece of crap" for inventing sounds not there.
    > > >
    > > > RIPOFF ALERT!

    > >
    > > As someone who does 'valuations' for the "Bluebook", I can tell you with
    > > some authority that many of the listings in the "Bluebook" are off... not
    > > all, but some... and there are so many listings in the book that it's
    > > pretty much impossible to be spot on with all of them. The kinda
    > > 'default' values are that of "normal depreciation"... in other words...
    > > take the stuff listed in the "Bluebook" with a grain of salt... the
    > > values in the "Bluebook" are a reasonable guideline for insurance
    > > companies... but not necessarily proper when buying and selling hardware
    > > on a "P2P" level.
    > >
    > > As for the usefulness of the unit... that too will be decided by the
    > > buyer. Some models of the DBX-120 are better than others... but even the
    > > least useful is certainly worth $125- if that is the effect someone is
    > > looking to employ. FWIW, I've used the things before... and have found an
    > > occasional use for them. It's not something I would own personally...
    > > but I reckon I'd probably pony up for one if I did more
    > > "dance/trance/industrial" kinda stuff... as always, YMMV.

    >
    >
    > I don't own a bluebook but have the experience of having taken in a
    > few things for possible trade and the dealer (GC) looking them up in
    > the bluebook and my experience is that it is way off a lot.
    >
    > Of course we all think our crap is worth a lot but often I think the
    > bluebook overvalues things as well. This particular GC bought or took
    > trade for a whole studio worth of stuff centered around a Tascam
    > 85-16B. This was about a year ago or a little better. They put it on
    > display for 3250.00. This just the tascam machine.
    >
    > I told them they would never get that amount and offered them 1500.00.
    > The salesman, (who knows better than the price they had on it)
    > confided the manager took it in and way over paid for it. They still
    > have it. It is down to 1650.00.
    >
    > I feel pretty certain they must have checked the bluebook. Maybe the
    > bluebook has some kind of "Vintage" markup? Who knows. Whatever the
    > case they had no clue about the market for these.
    >
    > Mike http://www.mmeproductions.com


    Wow your post says volumes about the quality of in store management at
    Guitar Center.

    Yet another example...the last time I went to a GC, I was trying to
    special order/Buy a Quiklok Z series two tier keyboard stand.

    After over an hour, the sales droid (nice guy, but not very clued in)
    could not quote me an actual price so I left. He kept going back to
    talk to the manager, who was "busy". It wasn't in their computer as a
    "stock" item so he didn't know what to do (probably the manager didn't
    either, hence why he was "busy").

    Keep in mind I told the guy what the model number was, what the list
    price was, and what the normal street price was.

    All I needed was what their net to me would be.

    So after an hour I gave up, ordered it off the web and it arrived two
    days later.

    Analogeezer

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