Re: Hardware MIDI on a Yamaha XG card

Discussion in 'comp.music.midi' started by ex guillemot, Aug 2, 2003.

  1. ex guillemot

    ex guillemot Guest

    Saw your post, honestly, i wouldn't touch
    Thrustmaster/Hercules/Guillemot anymore. The company is about to
    close. I used t work for them, about a month ago, they laid everybody
    off from North America, and the rest of the world also. They kept a
    couple of people to "finish off projects" to be released and generate
    that extra cash. There are no testers, no new drivers will be released
    for any of the products. Support is hardly any, there are two people
    to do support/RMA's for the WHOLE WORLD. They changed their contact
    information, try to find it. They make you have to register the
    product, then you get the support phone numbers and support emails
    addresses, but guess what, it doesn't work, that is because there is
    no web team anymore. All in all by sept, Guillemot will be no
    more,save yourself alot of headaches

    Ex Guillemot/Thrustmaster/Hercules worker

    "Olivier S. Massé" <omasse@iname.com> wrote in message news:<X11Sa.22204$124.346212@wagner.videotron.net>...
    > I have a DS-XG based souncard (Guillemot MaxiSound Fortissimo) which I
    > bought primarily to enjoy good MIDI sound. But now that I've put it in my
    > Windoze XP box, although it is recognized as a "Yamaha DS1x Native Audio"
    > device, there is no way to set MIDI playback to the card's own wavetable
    > synthesizer, except the 15 year old OPL FM Synthesizer which sucks big time.
    > There are other features such as a (useless but nice) "3D simili-sound" that
    > I can't user anymore.
    >
    > I tried the Microsoft built-in driver, then Guillemot's, then Yamaha's
    > generic drivers, to no avail. I'm sure there's a way to use the XG
    > synthesizer. Any suggestions?
    >
    > Thanks.
  2. On 2 Aug 2003 01:48:57 -0700, the_bathroom_wall@yahoo.com (ex
    guillemot) wrote:

    >Saw your post, honestly, i wouldn't touch
    >Thrustmaster/Hercules/Guillemot anymore. The company is about to
    >close. I used t work for them, about a month ago, they laid everybody
    >off from North America, and the rest of the world also. They kept a
    >couple of people to "finish off projects" to be released and generate
    >that extra cash. There are no testers, no new drivers will be released
    >for any of the products. Support is hardly any, there are two people
    >to do support/RMA's for the WHOLE WORLD. They changed their contact
    >information, try to find it. They make you have to register the
    >product, then you get the support phone numbers and support emails
    >addresses, but guess what, it doesn't work, that is because there is
    >no web team anymore. All in all by sept, Guillemot will be no
    >more,save yourself alot of headaches
    >
    >Ex Guillemot/Thrustmaster/Hercules worker


    Someone did make an uncertified Win2k DSXG chipset driver which will
    work. But I downloaded it, and didn't think that it worked as well
    for audio as the WinXP DS1 drivers -- sound a bit more likely to get
    choppy during games, using 3D sound. But with the DS1 driver, the
    DSXG software synth and mike karaoke effects are unavailable.

    I can't recall where I found it -- one of the driver's sites, not
    off Yamaha or other major support sites.

    However, I found that the game port, MPU-401 MIDI port, and FM synth
    was also disabled (under legacy devices) with the DSXG chipset. Maybe
    there was a way to make it work.

    I only stuck the card in to test some things out with it under
    WinXP. It isn't up to current sound card standards, though I'd think
    that one of the later YMF744 and above chipsets might not be bad -- if
    you have drivers.

    Guillemot isn't great at that sort of support, and to get the best
    out of the card, you'll want card specific drivers, not the generic
    Yamaha ones.

    >"Olivier S. Massé" <omasse@iname.com> wrote in message news:<X11Sa.22204$124.346212@wagner.videotron.net>...
    >> I have a DS-XG based souncard (Guillemot MaxiSound Fortissimo) which I
    >> bought primarily to enjoy good MIDI sound. But now that I've put it in my
    >> Windoze XP box, although it is recognized as a "Yamaha DS1x Native Audio"
    >> device, there is no way to set MIDI playback to the card's own wavetable
    >> synthesizer, except the 15 year old OPL FM Synthesizer which sucks big time.
    >> There are other features such as a (useless but nice) "3D simili-sound" that
    >> I can't user anymore.
    >>
    >> I tried the Microsoft built-in driver, then Guillemot's, then Yamaha's
    >> generic drivers, to no avail. I'm sure there's a way to use the XG
    >> synthesizer. Any suggestions?
    >>
    >> Thanks.


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  3. > Someone did make an uncertified Win2k DSXG chipset driver which will
    > work. But I downloaded it, and didn't think that it worked as well
    > for audio as the WinXP DS1 drivers -- sound a bit more likely to get
    > choppy during games, using 3D sound. But with the DS1 driver, the
    > DSXG software synth and mike karaoke effects are unavailable.


    Too bad Guillemot is going south. But I guess sound peripherals are a
    commodity now. Since my card was useless with XP I resorted to
    removing it and use my motherboard's C-Media built-in sound chip
    instead. Same functionality, one more PCI slot available.

    I made a few MIDI files back in the early 90s and I like to listen to
    them once in a while so I'll try to buy Yamaha's S-YXG50 software
    synthesizer one day or another.

    Olivier

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