Re: Losing music?

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by Nil, Aug 31, 2003.

  1. Nil

    Nil Guest

    "ryanm" <ryanm@fatchicksinpartyhats.com> wrote in news:vl4g6jgidh6hc2
    @corp.supernews.com:

    > However, it's like riding a bike, if someone reminds me of the chords
    > and lyrics I can usually pick the songs back up in a few minutes. But if
    > someone suddenly said "Play A Day In The Life by the Beatles", all I
    > remember right now is that it starts in G...


    Except, doesn't it start in Em?
  2. Richard

    Richard Guest

    jeffgross@charter.net wrote...
    > Richard wrote (in another thread):
    >
    > > <<snip>>
    > >
    > >As for knowing the past, I was thinking earlier today about how much
    > >repertoire I've lost. I remember sitting down with some friends one
    > >night, maybe 30 years ago, and playing song after song after song for
    > >hours on end. I don't think we repeated ourselves once. Stones, 10
    > >Years After, Hendrix, Cream, Beatles, Johnny Winter, Jethro Tull...
    > >
    > >Man, where did it all go? I never thought I'd miss that stuff, but
    > >it seems I really do.
    > >

    > Funny you'd mention that. One of my band mates asked me recently how I
    > can remember so much old stuff that I really don't play much.
    > I don't play a lot of the older stuff I used to anymore, but I remember
    > practicaly every lick and can play it at the drop of a hat.
    > I was just jamming Edgar Winter's Frankenstein during a sound check when
    > he asked. I think it has a lot to do with me thinking about music almost
    > every waking hour.


    Well, that's probably it. For about 19 years, I kept the guitar on a
    stand next to the computer but would go months without picking it up.

    Four months ago, I was swearing I'd forgotten everything useful I
    knew about ANSI C but that turned out to be untrue. I suppose I'd
    remember "Honky Tonk Women" in the same way, if it came to that.

    --
    Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
  3. ryanm

    ryanm Guest

    > >As for knowing the past, I was thinking earlier today about how much
    > >repertoire I've lost. I remember sitting down with some friends one
    > >night, maybe 30 years ago, and playing song after song after song for
    > >hours on end. I don't think we repeated ourselves once. Stones, 10
    > >Years After, Hendrix, Cream, Beatles, Johnny Winter, Jethro Tull...
    > >
    > >Man, where did it all go? I never thought I'd miss that stuff, but
    > >it seems I really do.
    > >

    I've lost more music than I currently know...

    However, it's like riding a bike, if someone reminds me of the chords
    and lyrics I can usually pick the songs back up in a few minutes. But if
    someone suddenly said "Play A Day In The Life by the Beatles", all I
    remember right now is that it starts in G...

    ryanm
  4. NJD

    NJD Guest

    In article <vl4g6jgidh6hc2@corp.supernews.com>,
    ryanm@fatchicksinpartyhats.com says...
    > I've lost more music than I currently know...
    >
    > However, it's like riding a bike, if someone reminds me of the chords
    > and lyrics I can usually pick the songs back up in a few minutes. But if
    > someone suddenly said "Play A Day In The Life by the Beatles", all I
    > remember right now is that it starts in G...


    What I hate is forgetting songs that I've written. During my most
    productive writing years, I was so cash strapped that I didn't even own
    a cassette recorder. So lots of songs were lost.

    A friend from Boston came down a while back and put on a recording of
    his band. I sat and listened. He said, "what do you think of that
    tune."

    I said, "sounds good."

    He said, "do you recognize it?"

    I replied, "well, yeah, kind of. It sounds familiar but I can't place
    it."

    He said, "you idiot, YOU wrote it."

    Worse than that, I wrote my wife a song as a gift for our wedding. I
    remember it being a pretty good tune, but for the life of me, I can't
    remember how it went. Should have recorded it somehow or other, but it
    never occurred to me that I would forget.

    --
    Nick
    http://www.cultv.com Fine arts & more
    http://www.ironia.net My last band
  5. Richard

    Richard Guest

    njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com wrote...

    > Worse than that, I wrote my wife a song as a gift for our wedding. I
    > remember it being a pretty good tune, but for the life of me, I can't
    > remember how it went. Should have recorded it somehow or other, but it
    > never occurred to me that I would forget.


    Mental block?

    I wrote a song to propose to my wife with. I do remember it,
    although that's probably because she still loves it.

    --
    Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
  6. NJD

    NJD Guest

    In article <MPG.19bc3604b6cca8a7989826@news.verizon.net>, rh310
    @hotmail.com says...
    >
    > Mental block?


    Possibly. 'Nough said.

    --
    Nick
    http://www.cultv.com Fine arts & more
    http://www.ironia.net My last band
  7. JMK

    JMK Guest

    Richard <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.19bc3604b6cca8a7989826@news.verizon.net:

    > njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com wrote...
    >
    >> Worse than that, I wrote my wife a song as a gift for our wedding. I
    >> remember it being a pretty good tune, but for the life of me, I can't
    >> remember how it went. Should have recorded it somehow or other, but it
    >> never occurred to me that I would forget.

    >
    > Mental block?
    >
    > I wrote a song to propose to my wife with. I do remember it,
    > although that's probably because she still loves it.
    >


    I used to write a lot. I had a coffeehouse gig with a
    songwriting partner about four years ago and we wrote a
    song a week. I still remember how they go, but I haven't
    performed them in at least 3 years.

    I wished they had more harmonic interest - I might revisit
    them with some of the things I learned from jazz standards.
    The lyrics were pretty good, though, I thought.

    My wife said that she fell in love with me while I was singing
    Nick Drake's "Place to Be." One of the most desperate,
    bleak songs in a canon of work that ain't exactly happy happy joy joy,
    and it wins me a wife. I'm still puzzled.

    JMK
  8. ryanm

    ryanm Guest

    "Nil" <rednoise0@lycos.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns93E898E8B674Cnilch1@216.148.227.77...
    >
    > Except, doesn't it start in Em?
    >

    Nope. The piano comes in on the Cmaj on the intro and the song goes to G
    on the 1, that's how I remember it. The intro goes: G - F#min - Em - C
    (Piano plays in unison) and then goes back to G on the 1.

    ryanm
  9. Richard

    Richard Guest

    nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry wrote...
    > Richard <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote in
    > news:MPG.19bc3604b6cca8a7989826@news.verizon.net:
    >
    > > njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com wrote...
    > >
    > >> Worse than that, I wrote my wife a song as a gift for our wedding. I
    > >> remember it being a pretty good tune, but for the life of me, I can't
    > >> remember how it went. Should have recorded it somehow or other, but it
    > >> never occurred to me that I would forget.

    > >
    > > Mental block?
    > >
    > > I wrote a song to propose to my wife with. I do remember it,
    > > although that's probably because she still loves it.
    > >

    >
    > I used to write a lot. I had a coffeehouse gig with a
    > songwriting partner about four years ago and we wrote a
    > song a week. I still remember how they go, but I haven't
    > performed them in at least 3 years.
    >
    > I wished they had more harmonic interest - I might revisit
    > them with some of the things I learned from jazz standards.
    > The lyrics were pretty good, though, I thought.
    >
    > My wife said that she fell in love with me while I was singing
    > Nick Drake's "Place to Be." One of the most desperate,
    > bleak songs in a canon of work that ain't exactly happy happy joy joy,
    > and it wins me a wife. I'm still puzzled.


    I'd better not comment. Never know when the words might come back to
    haunt me.

    --
    Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
  10. JMK

    JMK Guest

    Richard <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.19bc68b45d9b0744989828@news.verizon.net:

    >> My wife said that she fell in love with me while I was singing
    >> Nick Drake's "Place to Be." One of the most desperate,
    >> bleak songs in a canon of work that ain't exactly happy happy joy
    >> joy, and it wins me a wife. I'm still puzzled.

    >
    > I'd better not comment. Never know when the words might come back to
    > haunt me.
    >


    Can't imagine how.

    Though the lyrics can be interpreted as a love song,
    until you remember Drake's death was ruled a suicide.

    JMK
  11. Richard

    Richard Guest

    nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry wrote...
    > Richard <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote in
    > news:MPG.19bc68b45d9b0744989828@news.verizon.net:
    >
    > >> My wife said that she fell in love with me while I was singing
    > >> Nick Drake's "Place to Be." One of the most desperate,
    > >> bleak songs in a canon of work that ain't exactly happy happy joy
    > >> joy, and it wins me a wife. I'm still puzzled.

    > >
    > > I'd better not comment. Never know when the words might come back to
    > > haunt me.

    >
    > Can't imagine how.
    >
    > Though the lyrics can be interpreted as a love song,
    > until you remember Drake's death was ruled a suicide.


    I was more joking about how we win the women who become our wives in
    the most peculiar ways.

    --
    Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
  12. JMK

    JMK Guest

    Richard <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:MPG.19bc7832191b121998982a@news.verizon.net:

    > nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry wrote...
    >> Richard <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote in
    >> news:MPG.19bc68b45d9b0744989828@news.verizon.net:
    >>
    >> >> My wife said that she fell in love with me while I was singing
    >> >> Nick Drake's "Place to Be." One of the most desperate,
    >> >> bleak songs in a canon of work that ain't exactly happy happy joy
    >> >> joy, and it wins me a wife. I'm still puzzled.
    >> >
    >> > I'd better not comment. Never know when the words might come back to
    >> > haunt me.

    >>
    >> Can't imagine how.
    >>
    >> Though the lyrics can be interpreted as a love song,
    >> until you remember Drake's death was ruled a suicide.

    >
    > I was more joking about how we win the women who become our wives in
    > the most peculiar ways.
    >


    No kidding. To think of all the time I spent in the
    gym :)

    JMK
  13. NJD

    NJD Guest

    In article <MPG.19bc7832191b121998982a@news.verizon.net>, rh310
    @hotmail.com says...
    > I was more joking about how we win the women who become our wives in
    > the most peculiar ways.


    Often, I think they pick us before we're even aware of them.

    --
    Nick
    http://www.cultv.com Fine arts & more
    http://www.ironia.net My last band
  14. Ted Vieira

    Ted Vieira Guest

    I'll often think I'll have a hard time remembering a tune I haven't played
    in a long time, but once we start playing it all seems to come back. (most
    of the time)

    Ted Vieira


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    > From: Jeff Gross <jeffgross@charter.net>
    > Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
    > Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
    > Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:26:23 -0500
    > Subject: Losing music?
    >
    > Richard wrote (in another thread):
    >
    >> <<snip>>
    >>
    >> As for knowing the past, I was thinking earlier today about how much
    >> repertoire I've lost. I remember sitting down with some friends one
    >> night, maybe 30 years ago, and playing song after song after song for
    >> hours on end. I don't think we repeated ourselves once. Stones, 10
    >> Years After, Hendrix, Cream, Beatles, Johnny Winter, Jethro Tull...
    >>
    >> Man, where did it all go? I never thought I'd miss that stuff, but
    >> it seems I really do.
    >>
    >>

    > Funny you'd mention that. One of my band mates asked me recently how I
    > can remember so much old stuff that I really don't play much.
    > I don't play a lot of the older stuff I used to anymore, but I remember
    > practicaly every lick and can play it at the drop of a hat.
    > I was just jamming Edgar Winter's Frankenstein during a sound check when
    > he asked. I think it has a lot to do with me thinking about music almost
    > every waking hour.
    > I just sort of run licks and whole songs through my head all the time.
    > According to my wife, I even play in my sleep.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > - Jeff G
    > http://dirty-ernie.com
    >
    >
  15. jtees4

    jtees4 Guest

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:26:23 -0500, Jeff Gross <jeffgross@charter.net>
    wrote:

    >Richard wrote (in another thread):
    >
    >> <<snip>>
    >>
    >>As for knowing the past, I was thinking earlier today about how much
    >>repertoire I've lost. I remember sitting down with some friends one
    >>night, maybe 30 years ago, and playing song after song after song for
    >>hours on end. I don't think we repeated ourselves once. Stones, 10
    >>Years After, Hendrix, Cream, Beatles, Johnny Winter, Jethro Tull...
    >>
    >>Man, where did it all go? I never thought I'd miss that stuff, but
    >>it seems I really do.
    >>
    >>

    >Funny you'd mention that. One of my band mates asked me recently how I
    >can remember so much old stuff that I really don't play much.
    >I don't play a lot of the older stuff I used to anymore, but I remember
    >practicaly every lick and can play it at the drop of a hat.
    >I was just jamming Edgar Winter's Frankenstein during a sound check when
    >he asked. I think it has a lot to do with me thinking about music almost
    >every waking hour.
    >I just sort of run licks and whole songs through my head all the time.
    >According to my wife, I even play in my sleep.
    >
    >Cheers,
    > - Jeff G
    >http://dirty-ernie.com
    >


    I've written maybe a hundred songs over the years and am now trying to
    record most of the better ones (now that technology has given me
    decent equipment for little money) and I can't even remember my own
    songs. I have to go back and listen to old cassettes just to try and
    get the chords. It's just like learning someone elses songs. I'm 45,
    not toooo old!
  16. NJD

    NJD Guest

    In article <lni7lvsjua548kpkpov86vjvgt6dpp0ge1@4ax.com>, jtees4
    @hotmail.com says...
    > I've written maybe a hundred songs over the years and am now trying to
    > record most of the better ones (now that technology has given me
    > decent equipment for little money) and I can't even remember my own
    > songs. I have to go back and listen to old cassettes just to try and
    > get the chords. It's just like learning someone elses songs. I'm 45,
    > not toooo old!


    Ah ha! So I'm not the only one!

    Also 45.

    --
    Nick
    http://www.cultv.com Fine arts & more
    http://www.ironia.net My last band

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