Re: Most overrated guitar players - Kurt Cobain

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by Bob, Aug 21, 2003.

  1. Bob

    Bob Guest

    :why is it that "defenders" of Cobain always seem to resort to pointing
    :eek:ut the supposed lack of intellect of those who either dont enjoy his
    :music or never bought in to the post suicide deification.

    well I guess it's all about having an open mind. what it is is that kurt's
    style band went beyond that commercial album they produced, you can see that
    in the rest of Nirvana's music there is a lot more to Nirvana than the A
    side of nevermind. yeah I agree, big deal he topped himself, but kurt had a
    lot of influences that came through in his playing, and as a self professed
    non-professional musician, his music was raw and stripped down, and his
    'solos' took the piss out of the verse chorus verse solo verse chorus song
    construct yet he could write the most brilliant of these himself. a
    contradiction, as was the guy himself hence the whole angst thing.
    everythings fucked but i'm part of it and milk it . . . grunge came along,
    what were there then? spandex hairbands and metallica . his lyrics left a
    lot to the imagination. most of the music i've ever been interested in
    paints pictures for me, otherwise it bores me. i also find average people
    rather boring as well. do you like Carmina Burina ?

    it's like collecting paintings or sculpture, you either see it or you go
    with the mainstream and say 'i don't understand, therefore it sucks'. i
    personally don't like cezanne but think goya was a genius, after seeing a
    goya exhibition my opinion of picasso has lessened a little. we rearrange as
    we go. maybe the death thing has a lot to do with it with musicians, what
    would hendrix be doing now ? his style was changing towards the end, would
    he have become another santana or eric clapton and have fizzled in the
    seventies as well. who knows. everything comes in waves, the early nineties
    was a good period musically as far as i'm concerned.

    you are probably not a sonic youth, pixies, or even talking heads fan.
    oh and he played a jaguar and had holes in his jumper and his jeans.

    i think randy california is an underrated guitarist.
  2. On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:03:14 +1000, "Bob" <nemail@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >
    >:why is it that "defenders" of Cobain always seem to resort to pointing
    >:eek:ut the supposed lack of intellect of those who either dont enjoy his
    >:music or never bought in to the post suicide deification.
    >
    >well I guess it's all about having an open mind. what it is is that kurt's
    >style band went beyond that commercial album they produced, you can see that
    >in the rest of Nirvana's music there is a lot more to Nirvana than the A
    >side of nevermind. yeah I agree, big deal he topped himself, but kurt had a
    >lot of influences that came through in his playing, and as a self professed
    >non-professional musician, his music was raw and stripped down, and his
    >'solos' took the piss out of the verse chorus verse solo verse chorus song
    >construct yet he could write the most brilliant of these himself. a
    >contradiction, as was the guy himself hence the whole angst thing.
    >everythings fucked but i'm part of it and milk it . . . grunge came along,
    >what were there then? spandex hairbands and metallica . his lyrics left a
    >lot to the imagination. most of the music i've ever been interested in
    >paints pictures for me, otherwise it bores me.


    well heck, I guess that just about makes my point. you don't make much
    of a reply but more of the same "no, really, you just don't get it,
    curt was [insert your own superlatives here]" drivel that I pointed
    out. I dont get all into Nirvana. sorry. That does not make me stupid
    or intellectually inferior. my own writing will probably prove me
    stupid and inferior (heh).

    > i also find average people rather boring as well. do you like Carmina Burina ?


    What bit of Camina Burana should I like or dislike, the fake Wagner
    bit of O Fortuna or the rest of it? And would liking or not liking it
    make me average and boring or not? and what the heck does that have to
    do with not being a Nirvana cultist.
    >
    >it's like collecting paintings or sculpture, you either see it or you go
    >with the mainstream and say 'i don't understand, therefore it sucks'. i
    >personally don't like cezanne but think goya was a genius, after seeing a
    >goya exhibition my opinion of picasso has lessened a little.
    >we rearrange as we go.


    to tell the truth, I greatly prefer artifacts to artworks. Tut's gold
    deathmask, or the intricately worked stained glass in an old European
    cathedral are more pleasing to my eye than a hundred Picasso's.
    doesn't mean I can't appreciate a great painting.

    >maybe the death thing has a lot to do with it with musicians, what
    >would hendrix be doing now ? his style was changing towards the end, would
    >he have become another santana or eric clapton and have fizzled in the
    >seventies as well. who knows. everything comes in waves, the early nineties
    >was a good period musically as far as i'm concerned.


    you'd have to try pretty hard to get me to argue with the last
    sentence, really. You've got a point.

    >you are probably not a sonic youth, pixies, or even talking heads fan.


    and no, I am not a sonic youth, pixies, or even talking heads fan.
    which means exactly what?

    >oh and he played a jaguar and had holes in his jumper and his jeans.


    he played a jaguar? uh, ok, so what. but as far as the holes in his
    clothes, any adult who makes a decent living yet wears clothing with
    holes in it is definately making a statement. something along the
    lines of "I am an immature jackass"
    >
  3. Paul White

    Paul White Guest

    I've just read the world's longest sentence.
  4. Dan

    Dan Guest

    > I've just read the world's longest sentence.
    >
    >


    I think his pinkies can't reach the shift keys.
  5. 'nuther Bob

    'nuther Bob Guest

    On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 02:58:26 GMT, "Dan" <dhamplem@tampabay.rr.com>
    wrote:

    >> I've just read the world's longest sentence.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >I think his pinkies can't reach the shift keys.
    >
    >

    Prob'ly cut them off as a sacrifice to the great god of lame
    lives, Cobain.

    Bob
  6. ryanm

    ryanm Guest

    "Bob" <nemail@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > and his
    > 'solos' took the piss out of the verse chorus verse solo verse chorus song
    > construct
    >

    You misspelled "took the *life* out of..."

    HTH,
    ryanm
  7. abster510

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    what are you guys talking about.

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