Ride Groove with Left-Handed H-H Filler

Discussion in 'rec.music.percussion' started by Adrian Mongeli, Sep 2, 2003.

  1. There's a groove I'm hearing a lot these days, which I didn't hear at all
    during the 80-90's. Usually its a simple ride groove where the drummer
    inserts hi-hat fills with the left-hand on the off-beats. ( ..hope I'm
    explaining this clearly. )

    Was the "left-handed, hi-hat filler" lick around during the 80-90s? Or did
    I just not hear it? To me it appears as if this beat emerged in the late
    90's as a result of music trends.

    Best wishes,

    Adrian Mongeli
    http://www.digicodesys.com/drumpage
  2. "Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> skrev i melding
    news:pn85b.16396$uZ6.1217409@twister.socal.rr.com...
    > There's a groove I'm hearing a lot these days, which I didn't hear at all
    > during the 80-90's. Usually its a simple ride groove where the drummer
    > inserts hi-hat fills with the left-hand on the off-beats. ( ..hope I'm
    > explaining this clearly. )


    or better yet, your foot on the hi-hat. i use it all the time. the groove
    get`s fuller and wider i feel.

    reagards,
    -k
  3. Wishbone

    Wishbone Guest

    Not exactly what you mean. May need an example.
    Sounds like you are talking about the standard 70's disco hi hat on
    the"ands" of each beat.


    "Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:pn85b.16396$uZ6.1217409@twister.socal.rr.com...
    > There's a groove I'm hearing a lot these days, which I didn't hear at all
    > during the 80-90's. Usually its a simple ride groove where the drummer
    > inserts hi-hat fills with the left-hand on the off-beats. ( ..hope I'm
    > explaining this clearly. )
    >
    > Was the "left-handed, hi-hat filler" lick around during the 80-90s? Or

    did
    > I just not hear it? To me it appears as if this beat emerged in the late
    > 90's as a result of music trends.
    >
    > Best wishes,
    >
    > Adrian Mongeli
    > http://www.digicodesys.com/drumpage
    >
    >
    >
    >
  4. No, not the classic disco beat.

    Here is an MP3 example of the groove I'm speaking off....

    http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/452/porcupine_tree-lava_record.html

    On the hi-fi version of Porcupine Tree's "Blackest Eyes", the groove starts
    at 01:30 into the song.

    Cya!
    - Adrian




    "Wishbone" <mark.watts@comcast.net> wrote in message
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    > Not exactly what you mean. May need an example.
    > Sounds like you are talking about the standard 70's disco hi hat on
    > the"ands" of each beat.
    >
    >
    > "Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
    > news:pn85b.16396$uZ6.1217409@twister.socal.rr.com...
    > > There's a groove I'm hearing a lot these days, which I didn't hear at

    all
    > > during the 80-90's. Usually its a simple ride groove where the drummer
    > > inserts hi-hat fills with the left-hand on the off-beats. ( ..hope I'm
    > > explaining this clearly. )
    > >
    > > Was the "left-handed, hi-hat filler" lick around during the 80-90s? Or

    > did
    > > I just not hear it? To me it appears as if this beat emerged in the

    late
    > > 90's as a result of music trends.
    > >
    > > Best wishes,
    > >
    > > Adrian Mongeli
    > > http://www.digicodesys.com/drumpage
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  5. Dan Radin

    Dan Radin Guest

    "Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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    > http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/452/porcupine_tree-lava_record.html
    >
    > On the hi-fi version of Porcupine Tree's "Blackest Eyes", the groove

    starts
    > at 01:30 into the song.


    Interesting tune. Kinda sounds like half the band wants to be in Tool, and
    the other half wants to be in Duran Duran. I know the groove you're talking
    about. I think it's a product of drum machine programmers, who might put a
    constant ride/hat groove on the "right hand" part, and punctuate it with
    hi-hat notes. This groove is the drumset application of those grooves.
    Maybe? :)
  6. morris

    morris Guest

    "Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message news:<pn85b.16396$uZ6.1217409@twister.socal.rr.com>...
    > There's a groove I'm hearing a lot these days, which I didn't hear at all
    > during the 80-90's. Usually its a simple ride groove where the drummer
    > inserts hi-hat fills with the left-hand on the off-beats. ( ..hope I'm
    > explaining this clearly. )
    >
    > Was the "left-handed, hi-hat filler" lick around during the 80-90s? Or did
    > I just not hear it? To me it appears as if this beat emerged in the late
    > 90's as a result of music trends.
    >
    > Best wishes,
    >
    > Adrian Mongeli
    > http://www.digicodesys.com/drumpage


    this could just be guys moving the ghost notes from the snare drum to
    the hats. Then you add the Left footwork to it and it creates some
    nice layering.

    The more modern latin drum set players use this A LOT, especially ona
    groove called Songo.
  7. Hi Dan,

    Very good points. It does have the drum machine feel now that you mention
    it.

    As for Porcupine Tree. They are awesome. They've been around for quite a
    while. Their newest drummer is Gavin Harrison. You should hear their other
    material on that MP3 page.. very cool stuff.

    Take care!
    - Adrian



    "Dan Radin" <dan.radin@verizon.net> wrote in message
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    > "Adrian Mongeli" <drummer@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
    > news:eza5b.16425$uZ6.1226746@twister.socal.rr.com...
    > > http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/452/porcupine_tree-lava_record.html
    > >
    > > On the hi-fi version of Porcupine Tree's "Blackest Eyes", the groove

    > starts
    > > at 01:30 into the song.

    >
    > Interesting tune. Kinda sounds like half the band wants to be in Tool, and
    > the other half wants to be in Duran Duran. I know the groove you're

    talking
    > about. I think it's a product of drum machine programmers, who might put a
    > constant ride/hat groove on the "right hand" part, and punctuate it with
    > hi-hat notes. This groove is the drumset application of those grooves.
    > Maybe? :)
    >
    >
  8. >
    > Was the "left-handed, hi-hat filler" lick around during the 80-90s?
    >


    Yeah, Simple Minds - Don't You (Forget About Me) comes to mind... unless he
    just overdubbed... but I doubt it. It happens towards the end - after that
    wicked roll intro after the break.

    Nick.

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