Rolling Stones list of 100 guitar gods

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by howldog, Aug 28, 2003.

  1. Dan Stanley

    Dan Stanley Guest

    "JMK" <nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry> wrote in message
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    > howldog <howldogAINTNOSPAMMAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote in
    > news:79hskvghjqbq8btlc518jgkq84smet4d46@4ax.com:
    >
    > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:41:17 GMT, NJD <njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >>I'm amazed that you seem to know who they all are. I've never heard of
    > >>half of them. I guess I really am over the hill.

    > >
    > >
    > > this one i dont know:
    > >
    > > 97 Robert Randolph
    > >
    > >

    >
    > He was at Jazzfest this year. The man can play.


    Yeah, but don't you think you need to have more on your resume before you
    get called a "guitar god", and stuck in the top 100 of any list? Let's see
    where he is and what he's done after this brief burst of initial notoriety.
    I wish him well, but why do I get the feeling that if this was '88 the Jeff
    Healy would be on the list? He's a great player, still is, but....

    Dan
  2. Dan Stanley

    Dan Stanley Guest

    "Nil" <rednoise0@lycos.com> wrote in message
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    > On 28 Aug 2003, JMK <nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry> wrote in
    > news:Xns93E5CA9A0AE1jkaihatubellsouthnet@216.77.188.51:
    >
    > > I agree. But some of the solos on Verlaine's solo albums basically
    > > take Lloyd's domain of sheer melody and makes it his own. That
    > > said, he does do best with a partner.
    > >
    > > Musician Magazine's list from 1993 has both Lloyd and
    > > Verlaine.

    >
    > I'm a big Verlaine aficianado from long back, but I'm not as fond of
    > Lloyd. I agree that they made a great team, though - Television rocked!
    > (maybe still rocks?) Verlaine fully deserves to be on this list, IMO.


    ME TOO.

    > > One of my favorite photos has Ron Wood of the Stones looking right
    > > up close at Sumlin's hands as Hubert picks out another bizarre
    > > blues lick.

    >
    > Sumlin is more a name to me than sound. The only think I know I've
    > heard of his was on a Guitar Player flexidisk from a million years ago
    > (I still have it here somewhere.) He sounded great there. Any
    > recommendation on where I can check him out more fully? He was Howlin'
    > Wolf's guitarist, right?


    Yup. Almost all of Wolf's great Chess sides have Sumlin. Just get the
    "Howlin' Wolf Box" from Chess.
    And when Sumlin *wasn't* with Wolf he was with Muddy...early sixties I think
    it was, and Muddy did some good stuff then, too. After that, Sumlin went
    back to Wolf.

    You can hear LOTS of Sumlin in Jimmy Page, especially the first two Zep
    albums.

    Dan
  3. In article <3f4e6a48$1@shknews01>, "Odin" <res0jmoj@verizon.net> wrote:

    > "Bruce Morgen" <editor@juno.com> wrote in message
    >
    > > >I wonder if she was the "politically correct token

    > chick". If so, why
    > > >her, and not Bonnie Raitt?
    > > >

    > > ..or some other female
    > > who's actually known for
    > > her guitar playing? I
    > > wonder why those models
    > > in the Robert Palmer
    > > videos were left out,
    > > weren't most of them
    > > holding guitars?
    > > Shoot, there must be
    > > teenage camp counselors
    > > strumming "Kumbaya" who
    > > are at least as
    > > proficient as Joan
    > > Jett!
    > >
    > > Even if it's all about
    > > cultural impact,
    > > shouldn't be at least
    > > guitar-related cultural
    > > impact?

    >
    > Where was Lita Ford? And Jewel? And the whales from Heart?
    > And Jennifer Batten - never mind, she can play.
    >
    >




    Speaking of whales..where were the Mattes Brothers?
  4. Peter Collin

    Peter Collin Guest


    >
    >
    >>70 Eddie Van Halen
    >>

    >
    > 70?!?!?!?!?!
    >

    This is funny, because it was Eddie who nudged Jimmie Page out of the #1
    spot of "Best Guitarist" in all the polls in the '80's!
  5. Peter Collin

    Peter Collin Guest

    howldog wrote:
    > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:36:36 -0400, Bruce Morgen <editor@juno.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>That said, does anyone
    >>seriously see her as a
    >>guitarist? Songwriter,
    >>sure, archtypical rocker
    >>chick public image, yes,
    >>but guitar god(ess)? They
    >>can't possibly be serious!

    >
    >
    >
    > "and Rolling stone has always placed "kewlness" and "cultural impact"
    > and lyrics, over instrumental chops. Half this list is people that are
    > "kewl"
    >
    > sounds like, via your description, she fits Rolling Stone's apparent
    > criteria.
    >

    Then why not put Elvis at #1 and be done with it?
  6. Odin

    Odin Guest

    "Glen Hannifin" <fly@spamfly.com> wrote in message

    > > Where was Lita Ford? And Jewel? And the whales from Heart?
    > > And Jennifer Batten - never mind, she can play.
    > >
    > >

    > Speaking of whales..where were the Mattes Brothers?


    I was at your house servicing the old lady. You really should keep some
    better beer in the fridge if you expect me to keep taking care of her.
  7. JMK

    JMK Guest

    "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net> wrote in
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    >
    > "JMK" <nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry> wrote in message
    > news:Xns93E5C8FD93A3Fjkaihatubellsouthnet@216.77.188.51...
    >> howldog <howldogAINTNOSPAMMAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >> news:79hskvghjqbq8btlc518jgkq84smet4d46@4ax.com:
    >>
    >> > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:41:17 GMT, NJD <njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com>
    >> > wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>I'm amazed that you seem to know who they all are. I've never
    >> >>heard of half of them. I guess I really am over the hill.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > this one i dont know:
    >> >
    >> > 97 Robert Randolph
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >> He was at Jazzfest this year. The man can play.

    >
    > Yeah, but don't you think you need to have more on your resume before
    > you get called a "guitar god", and stuck in the top 100 of any list?
    > Let's see where he is and what he's done after this brief burst of
    > initial notoriety. I wish him well, but why do I get the feeling that
    > if this was '88 the Jeff Healy would be on the list? He's a great
    > player, still is, but....
    >
    > Dan
    >
    >
    >


    Well, that's not Randolph's (nor Healy's) fault. They do what they
    do. The rest make lists.

    JMK
  8. JMK

    JMK Guest

    jayv@uiuc.edu (john v verkuilen) wrote in
    news:DKt3b.1103$u96.15141@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu:

    > howldog <howldogAINTNOSPAMMAGNET@yahoo.com> writes:
    >
    >>I wonder if she was the "politically correct token chick". If so, why
    >>her, and not Bonnie Raitt?

    >
    > Or several other guitarists of the female persuasion who are either
    > quite skilled as players (the late Emily Remler or Bonnie Raitt)
    > and/or have been otherwise influential for the direction in which
    > they've taken the instrument (Joni Mitchell or Ani de Franco).
    >
    > Jay
    >
    >



    That's true, but for better or worse, more women have probably wanted to
    take up guitar after seeing Joan Jett or Chrissie Hynde (who SHOULD HAVE
    BEEN ON THIS LIST) than (maybe) Emily Remler (an excellent guitarist once
    she got past her Wes Montgomery fixation - her death was a goddamn shame.).

    JMK
  9. Robb Scott

    Robb Scott Guest

    In article <cocskvkfu1tvobmr1injvjh1c6sctgfrfc@4ax.com>,
    howldog <howldogAINTNOSPAMMAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > >No Brian Setzer?

    >
    > NOT KEWL ENOUGH
    >
    > apparently neither was Chet Atkins.


    Or Adrian Belew.

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  10. "Atlas" <c1sublux@hotmail.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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    > >70 Eddie Van Halen

    >
    > #70, eh?


    That's when I passed out. I can never imagine a guitar list with him
    anywhere lower than the top 5. Then I realized most kids today don't realize
    he's responsible for most of the new wankers above him.
  11. "Teddy Salad" <toneguru_uk@see-sig.invalid> wrote in message
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    > > They obviously werent basing this list out of sheer playing ability.

    >
    > Then just what in the *fuck* _were_ they basing it on?


    Whatever ever would sell the most copies.
  12. "JMK" <nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry> wrote in message
    news:Xns93E5C8FD93A3Fjkaihatubellsouthnet@216.77.188.51...
    > howldog <howldogAINTNOSPAMMAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote in
    > news:79hskvghjqbq8btlc518jgkq84smet4d46@4ax.com:
    >
    > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:41:17 GMT, NJD <njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >>I'm amazed that you seem to know who they all are. I've never heard of
    > >>half of them. I guess I really am over the hill.

    > >
    > >
    > > this one i dont know:
    > >
    > > 97 Robert Randolph
    > >
    > >

    >
    > He was at Jazzfest this year. The man can play.
    >
    > JMK
    >
    >

    Humor me here...Robert Randolph? and The Family Band? If that's true, isn't
    he primarily a steel guitar player?
    Saw him on ACL....he *does* tear up a steel. Never saw him playing a
    'regular' guitar on that show, but I tuned in late. ;+)
  13. JMK

    JMK Guest

    "Robert Barker" <rwbarker@spambegonecox.net> wrote in
    news:qgH3b.48842$0u4.2916@news1.central.cox.net:

    > "JMK" <nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry> wrote in message
    > news:Xns93E5C8FD93A3Fjkaihatubellsouthnet@216.77.188.51...
    >> howldog <howldogAINTNOSPAMMAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote in
    >> news:79hskvghjqbq8btlc518jgkq84smet4d46@4ax.com:
    >>
    >> > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:41:17 GMT, NJD <njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com>
    >> > wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>I'm amazed that you seem to know who they all are. I've never
    >> >>heard of half of them. I guess I really am over the hill.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > this one i dont know:
    >> >
    >> > 97 Robert Randolph
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >> He was at Jazzfest this year. The man can play.
    >>
    >> JMK
    >>
    >>

    > Humor me here...Robert Randolph? and The Family Band? If that's true,
    > isn't he primarily a steel guitar player?
    > Saw him on ACL....he *does* tear up a steel. Never saw him playing a
    > 'regular' guitar on that show, but I tuned in late. ;+)
    >
    >
    >


    Yes, I think he's exclusively a steel guitar player. I don't know
    who made this list (lists like these are fundamentally wrong on
    multiple levels) but list or no, he can rip it up.

    JMK
  14. "strat alot" <strat-alot@webtv.net> wrote in message
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    > What the fuck kinda list is that? Where the hell is Billy Gibbons?
    >

    Covering up his amp settings, so Polfus can't get a picture of 'em. HTH ;+)
  15. Robb Scott

    Robb Scott Guest

    In article <bflukv8aknatsb193q6ct8tihnh75nf9ra@4ax.com>,
    Atlas <c1sublux@hotmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:

    > >Or Adrian Belew.

    >
    > Or Junior Brown. (Who is WAY cool, and can play the
    > guit-steel like a mofo).


    Agreed.

    No Dimeola, either. I personally tired of him fairly quickly, but he's
    unquestionably a monster, and a big influence on a lotta players...

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  16. "Robb Scott" <robbscott@comcast.net.REMOVE> wrote in message
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    > In article <bflukv8aknatsb193q6ct8tihnh75nf9ra@4ax.com>,
    > Atlas <c1sublux@hotmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:
    >
    > > >Or Adrian Belew.

    > >
    > > Or Junior Brown. (Who is WAY cool, and can play the
    > > guit-steel like a mofo).

    >
    > Agreed.
    >
    > No Dimeola, either. I personally tired of him fairly quickly, but he's
    > unquestionably a monster, and a big influence on a lotta players...
    >
    > /-/-/-/-|-\-\-\-\
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    And no Teeny Hodges??? Wassup wid' dat?? No John McLaughlin?
    Bah....Humbucker...;+)
  17. "Robb Scott" <robbscott@comcast.net.REMOVE> wrote in message
    news:robbscott-75185B.09095529082003@netnews.attbi.com...
    > In article <bflukv8aknatsb193q6ct8tihnh75nf9ra@4ax.com>,
    > Atlas <c1sublux@hotmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:
    >
    > > >Or Adrian Belew.

    > >
    > > Or Junior Brown. (Who is WAY cool, and can play the
    > > guit-steel like a mofo).

    >
    > Agreed.
    >
    > No Dimeola, either. I personally tired of him fairly quickly, but he's
    > unquestionably a monster, and a big influence on a lotta players...
    >
    > /-/-/-/-|-\-\-\-\
    > The One True Robb
    > \-\-\-\-|-/-/-/-/

    Oops....McLaughlin IS there...at # 49....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Morons. But no
    Johnny Smith, or Duane Eddy?...How stupid are these people? Nevermind...;+)
  18. Atlas

    Atlas Guest

  19. On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:31:14 GMT, JMK <nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry>
    wrote:

    >One of my favorite photos has Ron Wood of the Stones looking right
    >up close at Sumlin's hands as Hubert picks out another bizarre
    >blues lick.


    You try playin' with the Howlin' Wolfman and your licks'd get
    bizarre in a hurry. You just can't know what beat the man is gonna
    kick in on.

    Texas Pete
  20. On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:22:27 GMT, "Robert Barker"
    <rwbarker@spambegonecox.net> wrote:

    >Oops....McLaughlin IS there...at # 49....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Morons. But no
    >Johnny Smith, or Duane Eddy?...How stupid are these people? Nevermind...;+)
    >


    No Danny Kalb either. How could they leave him off?

    Texas Pete

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