Rolling Stones list of 100 guitar gods

Discussion in 'rec.music.guitar' started by howldog, Aug 28, 2003.

  1. On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:41:12 GMT, "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net>
    wrote:

    >Boy Howdy!
    >http://www.creemmedia.com/


    Yee HAH! And how 'bout Li'l Rebecka?! Li'l? Uh uh.

    Texas Pete
  2. Nil

    Nil Guest

    "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net> wrote in news:sA34b.90$Qk4.58
    @nwrdny03.gnilink.net:

    > Well, since yer making a list, add the Muddy box, the Bo Diddley box, and
    > the Chuck Berry box!


    I'll add the Muddy box, but I think one disk of Bo would be enough for me.
    I already have Berry's "The Great 28", and that's probably enough for now.

    Coincidentally, I have been listening to that Chuck Berry CD the past few
    days, since it was suggested that I was playing "Johnny B. Goode"
    incorrectly. And of course, I was. It's one of those things I sort-of half
    figured out wrong about 30 years ago, and have been doing the same way ever
    since. Now that I look at it closer, I'm getting a better handle on Chuck's
    little tricks, and why those signature riffs sound just so. Not difficult,
    but you gotta play 'em a certain way to catch the Chuckness of it all.
  3. Road Warrior

    Road Warrior Guest

    "Atlas" <c1sublux@hotmail.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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    > >26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave


    > LOL!


    IMO, TM is a relevant player. Not a shredder but an "inventive" player.

    > >70 Eddie Van Halen


    > #70, eh?


    Yeah... Wassupwitdat?

    > >83 Neil Young


    > LOL!


    Except, do you realize how many beginning guitarists play his rhythm licks
    and don't even know it?

    > >87 Joan Jett


    > ROTFLMAO!!!


    Dude... She's aWeSomE!!!

    Jeff
  4. Road Warrior

    Road Warrior Guest

    "howldog" <howldogAINTNOSPAMMAGNET@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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    > >>59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead

    > > LOL!


    > noo yawk art snobs. velvet underground syndrome. "we're too kewl to be
    > bothered with actually learning how to play".


    I don't know about that. Them guys know how to write a tune. they know where
    to put the relative minor in the pre chorus or bridge. I think these guys
    are quite cool players, but you'd have to hear their second album "The
    Bends" to get it. That's a top 10 CD desert island disk for me. I can't
    listen to ANYthing from Radiohead after that CD... It's as though the guitar
    band dropped the guitars, then started going platinum with weird stuff that
    I just don't get. There are some fantastic songs on "The Bends"...

    > I dont get Radiohead. I havent heard a single thing, and altho granted
    > maybe i have just heard the "wrong things".. that impressed me, in the
    > least. Certainly NOTHING in guitar dept....


    "The Bends"... Not really solos and such, but really creative imaginative
    playing IMO...

    Jeff
  5. JMK

    JMK Guest

  6. Atlas

    Atlas Guest

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    On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:36:32 -0500, "Road Warrior" <me@privacy.net>
    wrote:

    >IMO, TM is a relevant player. Not a shredder but an "inventive" player.


    Not a guitar GOD either.

    >Except, do you realize how many beginning guitarists play his rhythm licks
    >and don't even know it?


    Not a guitar GOD either.

    >Dude... She's aWeSomE!!!


    Not a female either.



    Atlas
    --
    "I don't do drugs, I am drugs" - Salvador Dali
  7. NJD

    NJD Guest

  8. ryanm

    ryanm Guest

    "Road Warrior" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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    > "Atlas" <c1sublux@hotmail.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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    > > x-no-archive: yes

    >
    > > >26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave

    >
    > > LOL!

    >
    > IMO, TM is a relevant player. Not a shredder but an "inventive" player.
    >

    No he isn't, he's a poorly made carbon copy of Kim Thayil. Rage didn't
    do anything that hadn't already been done, including the whole rap/rock
    thing.

    ryanm
  9. ryanm

    ryanm Guest

    "Nil" <rednoise0@lycos.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > Coincidentally, I have been listening to that Chuck Berry CD the past few
    > days, since it was suggested that I was playing "Johnny B. Goode"
    > incorrectly. And of course, I was. It's one of those things I sort-of half
    > figured out wrong about 30 years ago, and have been doing the same way

    ever
    > since. Now that I look at it closer, I'm getting a better handle on

    Chuck's
    > little tricks, and why those signature riffs sound just so. Not difficult,
    > but you gotta play 'em a certain way to catch the Chuckness of it all.
    >

    Coincidentally, those aren't Chuck's licks, they're piano licks Chuck
    copped. ; )

    ryanm
  10. Road Warrior

    Road Warrior Guest

    "ryanm" <ryanm@fatchicksinpartyhats.com> wrote in message
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    > "Road Warrior" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    > news:biqjib$bo54g$1@ID-70176.news.uni-berlin.de...


    > > IMO, TM is a relevant player. Not a shredder but an "inventive" player.


    > No he isn't, he's a poorly made carbon copy of Kim Thayil. Rage didn't
    > do anything that hadn't already been done, including the whole rap/rock
    > thing.


    Whoa... Yer a singer, what do YOU know about guitar players...? Just
    kidding, but really I don't see anything in TM that reminds me of KT... They
    both play guitar, but that's about it.

    Jeff
  11. Road Warrior

    Road Warrior Guest

    "Atlas" <c1sublux@hotmail.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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    >
    > On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:36:32 -0500, "Road Warrior" <me@privacy.net>
    > wrote:


    > >IMO, TM is a relevant player. Not a shredder but an "inventive" player.


    > Not a guitar GOD either.


    Right... When you're right, you're right. Still, I think he's inventive. I
    like inventive as much as chops sometimes. In fact, I just like good guitar,
    even if it's simple stuff. I just like anything that is well done. If a guy
    takes a simple line and makes beauty and emotion, I like it.

    Simpleton (non-shredder) guitar players *I* like:

    George Harrison
    Mark Knopfler
    J.J. Cale
    Tom Petty/Mike Campbell
    The guys in Radiohead
    et al...

    Stuff like that... Now, Knopfler isn't a slouch, but not a shredder either.
    There's beauty in "songs" and how the guitar is approached for that song. I
    have a deep appreciation for players who are empathetic to the music and not
    necessarily demons.

    There are a LOT of other "simpleton" (non-shredder) players that are great
    that I don't necessarily care for like:

    David Gilmour
    Clapton
    Santana
    et al...

    Jeff
  12. ryanm

    ryanm Guest

    "Road Warrior" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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    >
    > Whoa... Yer a singer, what do YOU know about guitar players...? Just
    > kidding, but really I don't see anything in TM that reminds me of KT...

    They
    > both play guitar, but that's about it.
    >

    Bah, guitar players don't know nothing but wheedly-deedly. ; )

    They both played in bands that were more about the rhythm section and
    the vocals than the lead guitar. The result is the KT style (weird-ass and
    decidedly un-metal chords, strange directions in solos having less to do
    with fast chops and traditional leads and more with weird sound beds and
    other "artful noise"), which, IMO, TM does a decent job of, but not up to
    par with KT.

    ryanm
  13. ryanm

    ryanm Guest

    "NJD" <njd@NIXSPAAMcultv.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.19bacd3bb140a369989b52@news.optonline.net...
    > In article <vl20k9ltm8nde6@corp.supernews.com>,
    > ryanm@fatchicksinpartyhats.com says...
    > > Coincidentally, those aren't Chuck's licks, they're piano licks

    Chuck
    > > copped. ; )

    >
    > Which is pretty damned cool if you ask me.
    >

    Hacks borrow, real artists steal blatantly... ; )

    ryanm
  14. Dan Stanley

    Dan Stanley Guest

    "Nil" <rednoise0@lycos.com> wrote in message
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    > "Dan Stanley" <vze2bjcf@verizon.net> wrote in news:sA34b.90$Qk4.58
    > @nwrdny03.gnilink.net:
    >
    > > Well, since yer making a list, add the Muddy box, the Bo Diddley box,

    and
    > > the Chuck Berry box!

    >
    > I'll add the Muddy box, but I think one disk of Bo would be enough for me.


    Trust me, it's not. There's a lot more to Bo than you know.

    > I already have Berry's "The Great 28", and that's probably enough for now.


    Probably.

    > Coincidentally, I have been listening to that Chuck Berry CD the past few
    > days, since it was suggested that I was playing "Johnny B. Goode"
    > incorrectly. And of course, I was. It's one of those things I sort-of half
    > figured out wrong about 30 years ago, and have been doing the same way

    ever
    > since. Now that I look at it closer, I'm getting a better handle on

    Chuck's
    > little tricks, and why those signature riffs sound just so. Not difficult,
    > but you gotta play 'em a certain way to catch the Chuckness of it all.


    Very good, Grasshopper. WWCBD...when you *know*, you will be ready to walk
    on the rice paper, carrying the hibachi.

    Dan
  15. Dan Stanley

    Dan Stanley Guest

    "ryanm" <ryanm@fatchicksinpartyhats.com> wrote in message
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    > "Nil" <rednoise0@lycos.com> wrote in message
    > news:Xns93E77F060DC32nilch1@63.240.76.16...
    > >
    > > Coincidentally, I have been listening to that Chuck Berry CD the past

    few
    > > days, since it was suggested that I was playing "Johnny B. Goode"
    > > incorrectly. And of course, I was. It's one of those things I sort-of

    half
    > > figured out wrong about 30 years ago, and have been doing the same way

    > ever
    > > since. Now that I look at it closer, I'm getting a better handle on

    > Chuck's
    > > little tricks, and why those signature riffs sound just so. Not

    difficult,
    > > but you gotta play 'em a certain way to catch the Chuckness of it all.
    > >

    > Coincidentally, those aren't Chuck's licks, they're piano licks Chuck
    > copped. ; )


    Not all of 'em. Some came from T-Bone Walker.

    Dan
  16. JMK

    JMK Guest

    "Road Warrior" <me@privacy.net> wrote in
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    >
    > "Atlas" <c1sublux@hotmail.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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    >>
    >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:36:32 -0500, "Road Warrior" <me@privacy.net>
    >> wrote:

    >
    >> >IMO, TM is a relevant player. Not a shredder but an "inventive"
    >> >player.

    >
    >> Not a guitar GOD either.

    >
    > Right... When you're right, you're right. Still, I think he's
    > inventive. I like inventive as much as chops sometimes. In fact, I
    > just like good guitar, even if it's simple stuff. I just like anything
    > that is well done. If a guy takes a simple line and makes beauty and
    > emotion, I like it.
    >
    > Simpleton (non-shredder) guitar players *I* like:
    >
    > George Harrison
    > Mark Knopfler
    > J.J. Cale
    > Tom Petty/Mike Campbell
    > The guys in Radiohead
    > et al...
    >


    Two of my favorite non-shredder, supportive, non-spotlight
    hogging guitarists were James Honeyman-Scott of the
    Pretenders and Andy Gill of Gang of Four. Both knew how
    to take over the spotlight with quirky riffs, but
    were content to be in the background providing
    either gorgeous harmony (Honeyman-Scott) or propulsive
    rhythm (Gill).

    J.Geils is another one - a mean rhythm guitarist.

    JMK
  17. Richard

    Richard Guest

    nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry wrote...

    > Two of my favorite non-shredder, supportive, non-spotlight
    > hogging guitarists were James Honeyman-Scott of the
    > Pretenders and Andy Gill of Gang of Four. Both knew how
    > to take over the spotlight with quirky riffs, but
    > were content to be in the background providing
    > either gorgeous harmony (Honeyman-Scott) or propulsive
    > rhythm (Gill).
    >
    > J.Geils is another one - a mean rhythm guitarist.


    Johnny Marr. Love that guy's playing.

    --
    Gonna miss seeing you play, Pete Sampras.
  18. JHT

    JHT Guest

    Richard <rh310@hotmail.com> wrote in article <MPG.19bb3877fb79d8b98981e@news.verizon.net>...
    > nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry wrote...
    >
    > > Two of my favorite non-shredder, supportive, non-spotlight
    > > hogging guitarists were James Honeyman-Scott of the
    > > Pretenders and Andy Gill of Gang of Four. Both knew how
    > > to take over the spotlight with quirky riffs, but
    > > were content to be in the background providing
    > > either gorgeous harmony (Honeyman-Scott) or propulsive
    > > rhythm (Gill).
    > >
    > > J.Geils is another one - a mean rhythm guitarist.

    >
    > Johnny Marr. Love that guy's playing.


    They had an hour long tribute to him on VH1 Classics..all Marr from all his videos, and concert footage too.

    It was .well...I just couldn't take my eyes of him...he is rather killer.

    --
    Jason
    http://www.geocities.com/nobody_upstairs
  19. Re: Re: Rolling Stones list of 100 guitar gods

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 03:33:12 GMT, JMK <nope@nope.sorry.so.sorry>
    wrote:

    >
    >J.Geils is another one - a mean rhythm guitarist.
    >

    He's a killer, more so than people think. When I was a kid I got our
    local celeb-musician to give me some lessons. At one point he'd been
    playing with members of the J. Geils band before they had even met
    each other.

    Anyway, he had a tape of J. jamming after-hours and from a guitar-geek
    point of view, the stuff he was coming up with smoked what he was
    doing onstage. The point of that "lesson" was that the impressive
    stuff wouldn't have worked with the band, so he saved it for jam-time.
    Now THAT'S a musician.

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