Simple Approach to CD Labeling

Discussion in 'rec.audio.pro' started by Mike Rivers, Aug 20, 2003.

  1. Les Cargill

    Les Cargill Guest

    Mike Rivers wrote:
    >
    > My rant for the day:
    >
    > I don't make CDs very often, but this morning I transferred a half
    > hour live program from tape to CD. First was the half-hour transfer
    > time, then a little editing. No problem so far.
    >
    > Then I opened up the file in Nero and dropped markers in between songs
    > so that it would "look" like a CD when played. Burned a CD. Checked
    > it. One track, 12 indexes. OK, so I forgot that you have to click on
    > "Split on markers" before it will separate the file into individual
    > tracks. On to Take Two.
    >
    > Checked that out. OK, now there are 12 tracks, but it seems like
    > there's too long of a pause between them. I look at the Nero track
    > list and find that it's inserted 2 seconds between them. Took that
    > out, and burned another CD. Take Two is OK.
    >
    > So I thought I'd make a neat liner for the case, and maybe even a
    > label since I have the stuff. I opened up Nero's label designer and
    > absolutely couldn't figure out how to use it. All I wanted to do was
    > type text on to something that I could cut out to fit the CD case, and
    > put a simple label on the disk.
    >
    > So I went to a program that came with my CD Stomper. It gave me a
    > choice of dozens of backgrounds, none of which were "blank." So I pick
    > the simplest one, and again try to put in the text. Couldn't figure
    > out how to fit it in. Tried different font sizes, tried stretching and
    > moving the text box, nothing seemed to make any sense.
    >
    > I finally just typed the text in Word, printed it out on a sheet of
    > blank paper, and trimmed it to fit into the case. Total time from
    > start to finish was about 2 hours. Admittedly much of this was
    > fumbling with programs that I don't use often enough to work correctly
    > the first time (or any time, obviously) but if this was a paying job
    > instead of a favor for a friend, I would be at a loss to know how to
    > charge for it.
    >
    > But that's not really what I want to know though I'm sure you'll
    > discuss it. What I really want is a simple and straightforward CD
    > label template that works like a word processor, or maybe even works
    > with a word processor. It would be nice if it printed fine lines for
    > cutting and folding, and let me choose fonts and sizes to make the
    > text fit. That's all. No fancy stuff, no backgrounds, no logos, no
    > learning curve.
    >
    > Any suggestions?
    >
    > --
    > I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)


    This computer came with a copy of CeQuadrat JustBurn CD burner
    software. It has an extremely rudimentary artwork section built
    in, and SFAIK, it works. I've not printed a CDR itself, just
    labels and tray cards/booklets, and they fit. I've no
    complaint of the burning part of CeQuadrat, neither.

    --
    Les Cargill
  2. "Justin Ulysses Morse" wrote ...
    > Actually Mike, Quark is available for windows. I'd be happy to send
    > you a template for CDs and jewel cases, but clearly Word is the way to
    > go for you since you already have it and know it. I wasn't trying to
    > tell you to use Quark, only that it works for me. Using Word makes
    > more sense for you, which was my basic suggestion.


    I found Word to be much too restrictive.
    PowerPoint lets you put anything anywhere you want.
    Here are some of the templates I've made and use...
    http://www.rcrowley.com/templates.htm
  3. Gene Pool

    Gene Pool Guest

    I've been using cdrlabel for years with great success.
    Its set up for data cd's initially (it reads the discs and prints cd
    insert with a list of files on the cd, even makes booklets if
    necessary). Just click on BODY menu and set columns to "no columns"
    and then select text or pictures to finish the project. Size the
    picture with scaling to cover the entire label, even the spine. Prints
    crop marks on the page which come in handy when using a paper cutter.
    I have made over 700 jewel case labels and j-cards. I have tried over
    two dozen apps and like this the best. available at:
    http://www.cdrlabel.com/

    Nero's disk/case labeller has always been funky. I avoid it although
    it does grab song names from the project with song times and I believe
    author info for plugging into the label but was a hastle to use.

    Not sure why your CD Stomper doesn't start out blank, mine does. I am
    finishing up a stack of 500 labels so I've used Stomper a lot and it
    works great, There are various flavors of Stomper floating around with
    different menus so trying to explain its use to get a blank label
    (beyond just starting a new project or clicking on the background
    image and pressing the delete key) is difficult.


    On 20 Aug 2003 15:53:54 -0400, mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers)
    wrote:

    >
    >My rant for the day:
    >
    >I don't make CDs very often, but this morning I transferred a half
    >hour live program from tape to CD. First was the half-hour transfer
    >time, then a little editing. No problem so far.
    >
    >Then I opened up the file in Nero and dropped markers in between songs
    >so that it would "look" like a CD when played. Burned a CD. Checked
    >it. One track, 12 indexes. OK, so I forgot that you have to click on
    >"Split on markers" before it will separate the file into individual
    >tracks. On to Take Two.
    >
    >Checked that out. OK, now there are 12 tracks, but it seems like
    >there's too long of a pause between them. I look at the Nero track
    >list and find that it's inserted 2 seconds between them. Took that
    >out, and burned another CD. Take Two is OK.
    >
    >So I thought I'd make a neat liner for the case, and maybe even a
    >label since I have the stuff. I opened up Nero's label designer and
    >absolutely couldn't figure out how to use it. All I wanted to do was
    >type text on to something that I could cut out to fit the CD case, and
    >put a simple label on the disk.
    >
    >So I went to a program that came with my CD Stomper. It gave me a
    >choice of dozens of backgrounds, none of which were "blank." So I pick
    >the simplest one, and again try to put in the text. Couldn't figure
    >out how to fit it in. Tried different font sizes, tried stretching and
    >moving the text box, nothing seemed to make any sense.
    >
    >I finally just typed the text in Word, printed it out on a sheet of
    >blank paper, and trimmed it to fit into the case. Total time from
    >start to finish was about 2 hours. Admittedly much of this was
    >fumbling with programs that I don't use often enough to work correctly
    >the first time (or any time, obviously) but if this was a paying job
    >instead of a favor for a friend, I would be at a loss to know how to
    >charge for it.
    >
    >But that's not really what I want to know though I'm sure you'll
    >discuss it. What I really want is a simple and straightforward CD
    >label template that works like a word processor, or maybe even works
    >with a word processor. It would be nice if it printed fine lines for
    >cutting and folding, and let me choose fonts and sizes to make the
    >text fit. That's all. No fancy stuff, no backgrounds, no logos, no
    >learning curve.
    >
    >Any suggestions?
  4. Mike Rivers

    Mike Rivers Guest

    In article <3f44200a_3@newsfeed> tbowen@dwntwn.com writes:

    > > The Casio printer


    > Labels and ink? It uses neither labels nor ink. And it's very much
    > less than a buck a disc. Maybe 20 cents a disc here.


    Sorry, yes, I remember that it prints right on the disk, and it
    doesn't use "ink" but it does use expendable cartridges that contain
    something that's a different color than the CD background. Unless I
    have to build or buy it, that's "ink" to me.

    There was a discussion about this printer here just a month or so ago.
    The concensus was that it was too expensive for anything but
    occasional use unless you were actually charging real money to make
    CDs. Perhaps someone who has one would like to know how you got the
    cost down to 20 cents per disk.



    --
    I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
  5. Mike Rivers

    Mike Rivers Guest

    In article <vdubkv4qsiq5kc6bvdg4oj1ivmnkmqj4mn@4ax.com> me@you.net writes:

    > Not sure why your CD Stomper doesn't start out blank, mine does.


    It doesn't really start out not blank, it starts out with a "wizard"
    kind of pop-up that lets you browse several backgrounds and template
    styles (which go together), then there's a "transfer" button which
    puts that background and template on to the blank page. I discovered
    that if you just close that pop-up and don't transfer anything, it's
    possible to work directly on the blank page.

    Thanks for the recommendation for cdrlabel, but if I keep trying
    different programs, I'll waste more time than if I just figured out
    how to use one of the ones I already have. But I peeked anyway.

    There must be something wrong with me, or something very fundamental
    that I don't understand about making CD case labels. This program looks
    like it would work great if I have a properly prepared audio CD (or a real or
    copy of a copy of a commercial CD), or use the on-line data base for song
    titles. I put in a CD with the tracks identified as "Track 1 Track 2" etc. and
    couldn't figure out how to edit that to put the song titles on the page. I did
    the intutive thing - click on the existing text - and get a dialog box about
    saving or discarding the existing layout. I've tried both, and neither gets
    me to a laid-out page on to which I can simply type. I guess that's just not
    what people do any more.

    Oh, well. Once more, back to Word.




    --
    I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
  6. Gene Pool

    Gene Pool Guest

    On 22 Aug 2003 11:56:08 -0400, mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers)
    wrote:

    >
    >titles. I put in a CD with the tracks identified as "Track 1 Track 2" etc. and
    >couldn't figure out how to edit that to put the song titles on the page. I did
    >the intutive thing - click on the existing text - and get a dialog box about
    >saving or discarding the existing layout. I've tried both, and neither gets
    >me to a laid-out page on to which I can simply type. I guess that's just not
    >what people do any more.
    >


    Not to belabor the point but if you click the Insert String Icon
    (fifth from the right) you can type to your heart's content. You can
    select the font and size, color, etc right from there. Click OK and
    drag the text anywhere you want it.
    If you were on-line when you put in the cd, the cd tracks may have
    been found by freedb and auto-inserted, assuming this is a popular
    standard release cd. Thus no typing. I do that often. its all in the
    help section.
    I can relate to your situation. I tried a few new programs recently
    and at 53 I too have no patience with learning new procedures and I'm
    a software developer by profession! Be happy with word!
  7. >
    >So I went to a program that came with my CD Stomper. It gave me a
    >choice of dozens of backgrounds, none of which were "blank." So I pick
    >the simplest one, and again try to put in the text. Couldn't figure
    >out how to fit it in. Tried different font sizes, tried stretching and
    >moving the text box, nothing seemed to make any sense.
    >
    >I finally just typed the text in Word, printed it out on a sheet of
    >blank paper, and trimmed it to fit into the case. Total time from
    >start to finish was about 2 hours. Admittedly much of this was
    >fumbling with programs that I don't use often enough to work correctly
    >the first time (or any time, obviously) but if this was a paying job
    >instead of a favor for a friend, I would be at a loss to know how to
    >charge for it.
    >
    >But that's not really what I want to know though I'm sure you'll
    >discuss it. What I really want is a simple and straightforward CD
    >label template that works like a word processor, or maybe even works
    >with a word processor. It would be nice if it printed fine lines for
    >cutting and folding, and let me choose fonts and sizes to make the
    >text fit. That's all. No fancy stuff, no backgrounds, no logos, no
    >learning curve.
    >
    >Any suggestions?
    >
    >
    >
    >--
    >I'm really Mike Rivers - (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

    Any works program can do this easily in the Drawing program.

    Measure where the labels are on your label sheet and draw a circle around them
    using the tool when making your template on the computer.

    Create text boxes and type into them.

    Before printing, SAVE and THEN set the line width of the circle you drew around
    the labels to zero so that it prints your text without the guide circle.

    I'd send out a template for STomper labels, but the only one I have is
    Appleworks.

    Richard H. Kuschel
    "I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty
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