Ok at the moment I'm using Sonar with HyperCanvas through a Soundblaster Extigy. Drums are good, but I want the best rock sound. I do a bit of tweaking and that helps. I also tried Natural Sounds drum kit, it's a real sample sound font (198 meg!!) but that slowed my computer up :-( Just interested if anyone has any ideas in getting that "wall of sound" rock from a midi.