Want rid of those nasty fade-outs?

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  1. Ronny

    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    I've had to fix so many fade-outs on my midis I've got quite good at it so if you want a fade-out changed to a sensible ending post it here and I'll sort it out.

    Example with fade:-

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    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    And hey presto, same file, no fade:-

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    Rankinfile Guardian Angel

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    Yeah, Ronny. I can relate to this problem. It seems like every time I fix one fade out, two more crop up. Sheesh!
  4. Ronny

    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    I just realsied I didn't fade out the keyboard at the end of that piece which is one thing we want to fade out!!
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  5. Pol

    Pol Stuck on the M1 <img src="images/smilies/shakehead Staff Member Super Mod

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    You going to explain how you did it Ronny ?
    Did you change the velocities ?
  6. rhyde

    rhyde New Member

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    How do you eliminate fade outs?
    On a few files where I've killed this, it was simply a question of playing with the master volume or the velocity attack.
    I've come across one file ("Best of Times") where both of these controls are flat across the board and still the tune fades.
    What should I be looking for?
    Thanks,
    Randy Hyde
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    Rankinfile Guardian Angel

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    The best way I've found to do it is to use the event list in Cakewalk and just delete all the volume changes when the fade out starts. It doesn't take long and it keeps the integrity of the original midi without a cut and paste.
  8. Ronny

    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    If someone could tell me how to convert my desktop into an image I'll gladly show you. Any ideas 'cos i've seen it done on this board.
  9. Zandro

    Zandro New Member

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    Press the Print Screen (Print Scrn) button on your computer keyboard. It is stored as an image on your clipboard.
  10. Pol

    Pol Stuck on the M1 <img src="images/smilies/shakehead Staff Member Super Mod

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    Just take a snapshot of your desktop by pressing 'Shift' and 'Print Scrn'...then open up Microsoft Photo Editor and click 'Edit' and select 'Paste' and your desktop should appear in the window. Then just save it as a jpeg or whatever.
  11. Ronny

    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    Yeah have it sussed. Will do a little tutorial and post it over the weekend.
  12. Ronny

    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    Here goes. I primarily use Jazz Midi Sequencer. It's free and can be got HERE It's a great programme, very underestimated as it's so easy to use. Open the song you want to edit and as you can see the fade is light blue and starts around bar 8.

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    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    Highlight (click and drag) the area to be deleted and leave space.

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    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    This leaves you here.

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    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    Problem now is that the final drum cymbal at the end of the song is gone but that's easy t remedy. Right click on the drum track and a second window will open. Up on the top left corner is the add/delete note button (depressed) Click it and add the notes or in this case drum sound you want. I put in a cymbal, snare and bass (kick) drum. they appear in green, (great programme this!!)

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    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    Do the same to get the final bass note (as below) and indeed any other note like a piano, guitar etc. to finish off the song.

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    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    Save your work.

    You will have noticed that the organ (track 6) didn't disappear when I deleted the end of the track. This is beacuse you need to select the start of the note and delete from there. You can do this ok but it's sounds well to have the organ fade out as opposed to stopping abruptly. The only problem with this programme is that there is no facility to fade so I use Cubasis to edit this. simply open the file, open the mixing desk (it's easy to find.) I click on WRITE (now oragn) and simply fade out the organ.

    Save your work and you now have a non fade-out midi.

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    Ronny Midi Mad Super Mod! Staff Member Super Mod

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    Hope that is all clear to you. I actually just discivered that I can fade out volumes on Jazz but it is very fiddly. Better using another but it can be done. I use mostly Jazz for midi editing and a little bit of Cubasis but I alos use Clef as below. A great programme for simple volume changes, panningv and voice changes. It's really cheap and operates like a mixing desk, very easy to use.

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    Pol Stuck on the M1 <img src="images/smilies/shakehead Staff Member Super Mod

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    Thanks for the help Ronny...i actually have Cubasis but don't use it....think i'll install it and have a fiddle around.
  20. Rankinfile

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    Nice thorough job on the instructions Ronny.

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